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Response 1:
Timothy Breeding's thoughts on homosexuality in reference to other minorities.
I am not sure why I am writing this except I was questioning why that you defend black people when about 50 years ago because they were different they were shunned. And yet you slam gay people because they are different. Interracial marriage was never heard of back then and it was against the law. Gay marriage is a heated argument that will probably be granted as well. This country was founded on freedom we are a melting pot of many diverse people. I am sure that if they had computers back then your opinion would be different from that which is an overused word politically correct. With the sentence on children growing up in a gay household, read the headlines of how the children are out of control. Look online about the mothers and fathers who killed their children. Read about the child who shot his fellow classmates and teacher. Read about the disabled girl in Ohio that was forced to have sex with some fellow students. You do not hear from newspapers that a gay couple who raised a child was killed by them or the child went out to shoot someone. Intolerance will always be around I am sad to say.
The gay people need a leader like Martin Luther King, who by the way preached love among people, and equality, but they are too disorganized and are unable to do something about it. After reading your opinions on your website, I called a friend of mine who is a professor and have been through the Watts riots and Stonewall and I read both your opinions to him and he asked me one simple question are humans sometime logical and I said no and he told me that I have my answer. I am not angry at you at all I am just trying to find out why your opinions do not make sense you are for Black people knowing that in the past they were discriminated against and now you are discriminating against gay people because they are different. The Black people during War World Two serve their country as they did in the Civil War. They were still treated like dirt. I know that gay people served in War World Two and probably in the Civil War as well. Now we are at war again and I know that there are many gay people in the miltary protecting us from harm. Is it a perversion to fall in love with someone different from you? I don't think so. I think America should reorganize and get rid of blacks, mexicans, jews, irish, italians and others and not let them breed with white people. I am sad that people who are gay are paying taxes because they are not recognized. I think they should not pay taxes at all. Just because you are straight does not give you the right to judge other people. You are a human I hope that someday that you will understand it. Go to bed at night thinking of Matthew Shepard, who was murdered because he was gay. They took his life and they will pay for it. On that note I will say one thing that I think the website is good because we are able to express opinions and it is an outlet for all of us. Even though I don't agree with you does not mean I hate it or you. I was raised on the fact that and I quote from my Mother that Ignorance is Bliss she changed it to Ignorance is Stupidity.
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Reply author: Jonathan Vajda -- webmaster of my_2Cents
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Hey,
thanks for sending me your thoughts. I understand your stance, and why you think this. But I think the main difference of our beliefs is what hindges on this concept:
- Blacks are human, but different because they have the genes that tell their skin to be different.
Gays are human, but different because they choose to.
People ask "That makes no sense; why would gays want to be gay, especially with all that pursecution?" The answer: an outside source. Christians (albeit in greater comparison before than now) were persecuted heavily, but they didn't care. They claim that they had the Holy Spirit. Gays, to my thinking, are being pushed by another force, sin. The "pursecution" of gays is that of anyone that steals something -- you'd expect that, it isn't "normal."
Not that I condone any unnecessary violence of any kind -- even on gays, blacks, or straight-whites. (war is sometimes necessary, and corperal/capital punishment is not really any kind of violence)
Response 2:
Author: Tim Lukens
I have a big ass comment you huge jack ass. Oh no, maybe being gay is just a choice and it isn't hereditary, but does that make it wrong? Also, you're probably thinking its a big sin and gays are going to go to hell. Take a look at the big picture and realize that all sins are equally as bad. Everyday people lie, cheat, steal, kill, and do plenty of things that are their own personal choice. You can't say "oh, sorry, I didn't mean to steal from you. I was born that way." BULL SHIT!
Reasons people are afraid of gays: They're different. Gasp. Grow the fuck up. I think you may be socially insecure and may have missed a few things learning about your own sex. I think gay people are more secure then any of the rest of us. Not only do they fully understand the opposite sex, but they also understand their own sex as well.
About marriage. Welcome to the 21st century. Not everyone has the same belief as you and marriage has become more of a symbol of love than a holy ceremony binding two people. Thats why you can get married in a courthouse too.
"1. Because they want to side with the underdog, although most don't know that they are on the wrong side of the argument." - Underdog? The only people against gays are insecure parents "protecting" their children, conservative catholics, and confederate flag toting idiots. Gays have quite a lot of support.
"2. Mankind tends to be against God, it is easiest to not do what is right most of the time." - Well, I don't believe in God if that is what you are saying, but have a huge amount of respect for people who are very involved with their religion. I'm glad that they have found what they need in their life.
"4. They don't want to offend their friend, who happens to be gay or is baised infavor of gay rights." - I have no gay friends, period. Baised in favor of gay rights? Well I think you are baised to be not in favor of gay rights. The point, that is a really dumb statement.
"5. I'm not sure. In fact it doesn't entirely make sense. Maybe all of the above." Wait, you're not sure? More insecurity.
I'd just like to say that you should be a bit more open to other cultures and except the fact that not everyone is Christian and therefore have many different moral values in life. Even if it is a choice to be gay there is nothing wrong with it. It was my choice to eat some applesauce today. Are you going to throw a fit about that too? I could've lived just fine without the applesauce, but I enjoyed it and am glad I ate it.
Anonymous from Canada:
I've never seen anything more ridiculous in my entire life. You can't even make one justifiable point. It's great that you have your own opinions, but next time you right a page like this... make sure you know what you're talking about.
If you believe that being gay is a disease then you are sadly uneducated and possess a lack of motivation when it comes to providing realistic arguments to supports your stance. If you're so inclined... read this:
Gay Civil marriage equality will benefit society by encouraging stable relationships, strengthening the institution of marriage and providing important protection for gay and lesbian families. Let’s take a look at some of the specific reasons why civil marriage will advance the cause of fairness and liberty.
Gay civil marriage will lead to more stable relationships. This is a conservative argument that the religious right should support. You will often hear those on the right rail against homosexuality because they say gay men are more promiscuous than heterosexuals. Marriage is an institution that will encourage monogamy and long term committed relationships. That is a good thing. How can the religious right disagree with this point?
Gay civil marriage will not threaten the institution of marriage. The religious right talks about “defending marriage” or “protecting marriage.” From what? If gay people could marry tomorrow, that would not harm heterosexual marriage. This would only “threaten” heterosexual marriage if gay marriage was a viable alternative for straight people. Of course, this is patently absurd. You cannot “make” someone become gay or lesbian, just as you cannot make someone be heterosexual. Look at Vermont. Civil unions became legal there in 1999, but the sky has not fallen. Heterosexual marriage has not been adversely affected. In fact, one could argue, because this is something we have been denied, gay and lesbian couples will take the contract of marriage more seriously. Preliminary data from countries with civil unions supports this thesis.
Throughout history, marriage has changed with society. Those opposed to gay civil marriage often talk about the “tradition” of marriage. Most have trouble articulating a good reason not to have it so they are left only with the flimsy argument that, “It has always been this way.“ If this argument sounds familiar, it is. Segregationists used to say the same thing during the Civil Rights struggle four decades ago. Those opposed to gay marriage never mention how the institution of marriage has changed during the last 2,000 years. As society has evolved, becoming better educated and more tolerant, the traditions and acceptable definitions of marriage have been altered. If marriage had not changed throughout human history:
- An adult man would be allowed to marry a 12 year-old girl. - Someone could be forced into a marriage arranged by their parents. - A person would not be allowed to marry someone of another race. - Men could treat their wives as property to be disposed of at will. - A husband would be allowed to have multiple wives. - A person could not marry someone of a different religion. - A person could not marry someone from a different economic class. - It would be impossible to divorce, no matter how physically or emotionally abusive your spouse.
As society has changed, so too has the institution of marriage. With a better understanding of gays and lesbians, the time has come for another change to this institution.
Committed gay and lesbian couples are being used as a scapegoat for the weakened institution of marriage. What is a bigger threat to marriage: Britney Spears’ 55 hour marriage or a committed lesbian couple pledging to spend their lives together? You cannot blame gay and lesbian Americans for a divorce rate approaching 50%. There are many complicated reasons for the high rate of failed marriages. Instead of examining those causes, some on the radical right find it easier to blame gay and lesbian families. If those on the extreme right were really interested in “strengthening” marriage, they would be proposing a Constitutional amendment to prohibit no-fault divorce. Or they would be looking for ways to eliminate adultery.
I'd be surprised if you got this far.
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