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1. But with regard to our Lord Jesus Christ coming, we request you siblings....... 3. Does nobody deceive you in any way; because he won't come without before comes the apostasy and that man of sin be reveled, the son of perditionis manifested. |
THERE WILL BE AN APOSTASY BEFORE OF CHRIST'S COMING
We ask:
Which of all the churches in existence, can it complete this prophecy?
Does he/she make some sense this prophecy, for any church that doesn't have the truth?
Which of all the churches it does possess the fullness of the truth?
Would he/she make sense apostatize of a church that is already in APOSTASY?
Is APOSTASY, to leave an apostate church?
Or can it maybe spend to the apostasy, when abandoning the faith of a false church?
To fulfill the apostasy, necessary requirement is not, to possess the truth first, does he/she stop then to abandon her?
Is one able to stray of the one on the way to the truth, if it never trafficked for him?
Does the worry about apostasies of false churches Lord?
Won't he worry about mainly the apostasy of the church that is
supposed true?
We can understand that the primitive Church of Christ entered in apostasy, because we have before our view its corruptions. But besides what we can see we have the valuable testimony of the writings.
One of the strongest evidences in this sense, is Pablo's prophecy in Mileto, where he/she says:
FACTS 20
29. Because I know that after my departure rapacious wolves will enter amid you that you/they won't forgive to the flock.
30. And of you same men that speak corrupt things to crawl will get up after yes to the pupils.
Other there is been in Jesus Christ prophecy,
in the one that the Lord same he/she declares little time before their
crucifixion that: immediately after the death of him and the apostles an
apostasy would come,:
JUAN 14
30.De here from now on won't speak
a lot with you; because the prince of this world, and he comes anything
he/she has in me
With an identical declaration José Smith
using the teacher's sentence prophesies the same, little time before dying.
(September
of 1842).
DyC 127
11 ...porque the enemy is forewarned,
and like the Saviour said: the prince of this world comes more he doesn't
have anything in me.
That José speaks? To that prince refers?
Satan in that moment maybe was not in this world? Does he/she come?...
to where? If Satan comes, will apostasy take place? It is not clear that
using the same sentence, was it prophesying the same thing that their Teacher
1800 years before? And if it was prophesying of an apostasy? That I populate
J.S did he/she speak.? Would an apostasy come on the Protestant world?
This is the second sign.
As a concept he/she is not very well acquaintance we define before he/she is a Son of Perdition and then do look for the answer of the following question: Which is the people that has the capacity to produce Children of Perdition?
In DyC 76 find some characteristics associated
to the perdition children that he/she explains to us who can end up being
it. It defines them in 6 clear points
DyC 76
29. therefore, does make the war to the saints of God and surround them for all sides
30. And we saw the vision of the sufferings of those to who he/she made the war and it conquered, because the voice of the Lord he/she came to us in these words:
31. Does he/she say this way the Lord concerning to all those that know my powerand of which have participated and because of the devil's power they were allowed to conquer and do they deny the truth and do they challenge my power??
32. These are the perdition children. .....
35. having denied the Sacred Spirit after having received it
43... ..menos to those perdition children
that deny to the Son after the Father has revealed it
Who are this Saints?
Which is the people that knows the power?
Which is the people that has participated of this power?
Which is the people that has received the Sacred Spirit?
Which is the people, the one, that the Father the Son has revealed him?
Which
is the people that was allowed to conquer, denied the truth and has it
challenged, not to god but and do let us understand well, the power of
God?
As well as we have seen that a people that violates The Truth that possesses him denominates it it Apostatizes,
Here we see that to the men that come closer to their Teacher, those that know it and then they abandon him, it denominates them to him The Children of Perdition"
Can understanding this say that the Catholic churches or can the Protestants produce some perdition son? Does lack make clarify that if we said this, then we would be declaring that they have the truth like to surrender it to some man, so that then this he/she can abandon her?
Do we understand now to what church he/she refers?
| Now
in our time, the Lord has revealed the necessity to give a renovated emphasis
to the Book of Mormon to take out to the
church and all the children of Zion of the condemnation and of the lash
of the trial. (sees you DyC 84:54-58)
... .y will beg to the Lord. that lifts the condemnation, the lash and the trial. Of this I testify solemnly. (E. T. Benson. Liahona Julio 1986, pag 72) |
| We the saints of the high one....... how do we seek that God doesn't condemn us if we don't give him importance and do we leave them in our shelves joining powder? (E. T. Benson. Liahona January 1987, pag 81) |
DyC 112.
24. There am here, the vengeance comes I lend..., a day of anger, of fire, of desolation, of cry, of cry, and of lamentation, and as a vortex he/she will come on the face of the earth.
25. And it will begin on my house and of my he/she marries he/she will extend, he/she says the Lord;
26. first
among those of you that you have professed to know my name, and you have
not known me, and you have blasphemed against me amid my house, he/she
says the Lord.
1 PEDRO 4.
17. Because it is time that the trial begins with the house of God; AND if first it begins with us, which will the end be of those that don't obey the gospel of God?
18. And: If the fair one with difficulty
survives where the infidel will appear the sinner?
JEREMÍAS 25.
29. Because there am here that to the
city in which my name is invoked I begin to make bad; AND will you be acquitted?
WHO WERE DESTROYED THE LAMANITAS OR THE NEFITAS FIRSTLY?
US WHAT WE ARE: LAMANITAS OR NEFITAS?
MORMÓN CAP. 8.
28. Yes, he/she will come in one day in that he/she will refuse the power of God; and the churches will have been corrupted and ennobled in the pride of their hearts; yes, still in one day in that the leaders and teachers of the churches will get conceited in the pride of their hearts, still until the envy of those who belong to their churches. ............
30. and it will also be heard of wars, rumors of war and earthquakes in diverse places.
31. Yes, he/she will come in one day in that there will be big corruptions on the surface of the earth; there will be murders, and robberies, and lies, and deceits, and fornications, and all kinds of abominations; when there will be many that will say: you Make this, or make that, and it doesn't care, because in the Lord it will sustain to the such ones in the last day. But oh of such, because they are in the bile of bitterness and in the bonds of the iniquity.
32. Yes, will come in one day in that churches will have been built that they will say: "Come to me, and for your money you will be forgiven of your sins"
33. Oh iniquitous and perverse, and obstinate people. Because you have built yourselves churches to obtain gain? Because you have distorted the sacred word of God, to bring condemnation on your souls?.
34. There is the here Lord it has shown me concerning big and wonderful things to that that should come soon, in that day when these things come among you.
35. There am here, I speak to you as if is present, and however he are not. But there am here, Jesus Christ has shown me to you, and I know your facts.
36. And do I know that you walk according to the pride of your hearts; and is none except for some few ones that don't get up in the pride of their hearts, until the degree of dressing very fine clothes, to the degree of arriving to the malice and persecutions and all kinds of iniquities; and your churches, yea, all have been corruptedu because of the pride of your hearts.
37. Because there am here, do you love the money, and your goodsvyour fine dresses, and the decoration of your churches, more than what you love to the poor person and the needful, the sick person and the heart-stricken one. w
38. Oh you corrupt, you
hypocrites, you teachers who you sell yourselves for what is corrupted,
why
you have corrupted THE SACRED CHURCH
OF GOD? x
After reading this, can to answer that and to
who saw Mormón?
u How many churches saw corrupt? Did he mention some exception?
v This well to love the money? Do they make it The Mormons?
w Does lack make clarify that there is always budget for paintings, gardens, carpets and cedar banks, but there always are not for the needful?
x What
church have we corrupted? Which is the Santa Church of God?
24. . ,el two hundred one began to have among them some that were exalted in pride, just as shining expensive dresses, and all type of fine pearls, and of the fine things of the world.
25. And from that time from now on, their goods and their substance, did they have it no longer in commonu among them.
26. And did they begin to be divided in classes v and did they begin to be built churches with object of enriching;w and did they begin to deny the true church of God
27.; if, there were many churches that professed to know the Christ, and however they did deny most of the gospel, in such a way that they tolerated all kinds of iniquities, and did they administerx what was sacred to who they was forbidden, for reasons of not being worthy.
28. And this church multiplied
in great way by reason of the iniquity! y
vDoes this church have divisions of classes? Said otherwise there are poor? Is there rich?
wDoesn't the Mormon church, enrich with the tithes??
xThere are not leaders provenly thieves, adulterers, liars, etc., etc.?
yDon't we say that this Mormon church multiplies in great way? Because of?
1. Listen, oh people of my church........
14.. and he/she will come the day in that those that non oyeren the voice of the Lord, neither the voice of their servants, neither prestaren attention to the words of the prophets and apostles, they will be cut of among the people.
15. because they have strayed of my ordinances and they have violated
my eternal agreement. (To see DyC 124:
46)
He/she suits to stop in these verses of the call Foreword of DyC." Here the Lord, in the section 1, where He sends that their book of commandments begins, in the verse 14, he/she repeats the well-known prophecy given to Moisés by way of warning about the dangers of not paying attention to the writings once again.
And after this in the verse 15, it mentions another
prophecy, this time of Isaias, garishly written in last time, like it stops
who reads it at this time current (that this writing is to the hand of
its people to be able to be read) he/she understands that it is something
that already happened and don't unite prophecy of times to come. He/she
doesn't say they will stray but they have strayed." When I read
it today he/she already informs me of a fact happened. And when the writing
takes value but when it is read?
If we have established the time of the prophecy, now we should try to understand to that populate he/she is applied.
The people of which speaks should have known and possessed its ordinances and agreements; because this clear one and difficultly a people could make something to stray of the ordinance that he/she doesn't know and to violate agreements that he/she has never made.
With this in hand, does it fit the question: how many peoples do they exist and did they exist with these characteristics that can fulfill this clear prophecy? To that populate God it trusted their ordinances? Which is the people with the one that God had concerted eternal agreement?.
To deviate ordinances and to violate sacred agreements,
will APOSTASY be?.
11. If, all have been left the path; they have ended up being corrupt.
12. By reason of the pride, and by
reason of false teachers and false doctrines, their churches have ended
up being corrupt, and their churches are exalted; by reason of the pride
they are inflated.
DyC 20
32. But it exists the possibility that the man falls of the grace and move away from the alive God;
33. therefore, take care the church and always pray, be not that he/she falls in temptation;
34. yes, take care still those that are sanctified.
35. And we know that these things are
true and they agree with Juan's revelations, not adding neither removing
to the prophecy of their book, neither to the Saints Writings, neither
to the Revelations of God that from now on will come for the gift and the
power of the Sacred Spirit, the voice of God or the Ministry of Ángeles.
DyC 38.
13. And now I discover you a mystery,
a thing that is in the secret cameras, to still carry out your destruction
with the course of the Time, and you didn't know it.
DyC 51
4. There am here, Me, the Lord, I have
observed you, and I have seen abominations in the church that takes my
name.
DyC 84
55. and this incredulity and vanity have caused that the whole church this low condemnation.
56. And this condemnation rests on the children of Zion, still all
57. and they will remain I lower this condemnation until they are sorry and remember the new agreement, still the Book of Mormon and the previous commandments that I have given them, not alone of speaking, but of acting according to what I have written.
58. so that they
can bring worthy fruits for their Father's Kingdom; otherwise, it is to
spill out a punishment and trial on the children of Zion
DyC 105
1. Of certain I tell to you that have met to be able to know my will as for the redemption of my heart-stricken people.
2. There am here, I tell you that if it was not for the transgressions of my people, in what concerns to the church, and not of individuals, well already have been redeem.
3. But there am here, they have not learned how to be obedient in the things that I required of their hands, but rather they are full with all kinds of iniquity, and they don't give from their goods to the poor and heart-stricken among them like it corresponds the saints;
4. neither united according to the union that it requires the law of the celestial Kingdom are;
5. and you
cannot build Zion but in accordance with the principles of the law of the
celestial Kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive it
32. But there am here, your baptisms for your deads won't be I acceptable after this term; and if you have not made these things for when it finishes the term, you will be rejected as church, together with your deads, he/she says the Lord your God
35. And after this time, your baptisms for the deads, made by those that are spread in other parts, won't be I acceptable he/she says the Lord.
45. And if those of my people listen my voice, and the voice of my servants that I have named to guide to my people, there am here, of certain I tell you that they won't be removed of their place
46. but if they don't listen my voice, neither the voice of these men I have designated, they won't be blessed, because they contaminate my sacred earth, and my sacred ordinances, and my words that I give to them. (To see previous comment on DyC 1)
47. And it will happen that if you build a house to my name, and you don't make the things that I say, I won't carry out the oath that I make you, neither I will complete the promises that you expect from my hands he/she says the Lord.
48. Because instead of blessings, you,
for your own works, bring curses, anger, indignation and trials on your
own heads, for your nonsenses, and for all your abominations that you practice
before me, he/she says the Lord.
MIQUEAS 2.
8. The one that yesterday was my people, he/she has gotten up as enemy;............
10. Get up and walk, because it is
not this the place of rest, because it is polluted, corrupt largely.
Of course that this is not this way; diverse levels of responsibility, guilt and complicity exist.
It is not the same thing the father's responsibility that that of the son. It is not the same thing a new member that a supreme priest. For this reason we highlight that the writings accuse the bosses of their people clearly, to the leaders from Israel, as the responsible ones main of this corruption." (Zac. 10:3; Eze.34:10)
You can be innocent in a principle, when the ignorance of the things is almost total, and the intensity of our first investigation is in its initial part. It is also certain that the investigation should not cease, because this church seemingly is based on testimonies that it means personal knowledge of some truth", and also at least in theoretical form he/she says to foment the development of the intelligence. In consequence as the knowledge grows, our innocence falls.
Claro está, que esto no es tan fácil,
porque está depende directamente de que la información que
recibamos sea verdadera, de lo contrario erraremos sin comprender porqué.Clearing
is that this is not so easy, because it is it depends directly that the
information that we receive is true, otherwise we will wander without understanding
reason (2Ne.28:14)
But if we don't make a true effort to recognize the difference between true and false, among what is useful and what is not it, among what feeds and what simply maintains us without feeling hunger. If we don't make a real intent of looking for the fullness, the complete truth, and not to conform to with the crumbs that fall under the table, of what others have cut for us.
If we read with much care and escrudiñaramos with careful attention the writings, we could come unfastened of the knots of darkness in that we are at the moment, because then ourselves would be to the so much of what is happening us. We would no longer need to bother us and to offend us because of a third that he/she explains to us how much we ignore.
If we stopped to suppose that we already have
the truth, and we were devoted to obtain it, if we stopped to think that:
we already have a Bible, and that we don't need more Bible" (2Nefi 28:29;
29:3), we could avoid to fall in the trap that was dug so slick for us.
(1Nefi
14:3 and 22:14).
If the Son of God still had to have the patience, to grow grace for grace, because we dare to think that already and now we do have the access to his fullness?.
Experts that we understand very little, even increased by the knowledge of our sins and iniquities and the conscience that we are not making the enough effort to study the word, what what we believe is that he/she gives us the authorization to award us to ourselves the right of total interpretation and exclusive use of the full truth?
Never never the Lord he/she promised to anybody
that would give their whole truth from a single time to man some on this
earth, without the effort of the pertinent and necessary work; but rather
on the contrary he/she noticed us in repeated opportunities that their
word would be given little by little, line for line, precept to precept,
and that we would be proven for this reason. (Isa.28:13;
DyC 98:12)
Because if we don't make something to wake up of our lethargy, then yes, our first innocence will have transformed.
Starting from there we will no longer be free of responsibility, still when our understanding is limited by the false information, but rather the guilt one will be able to measure for other parameters. For not making a sincere effort to obtain the correct knowledge and then to correct what it is necessary to correct, will have allowed to pass the last opportunity, for efectivizar, that that once promised to the skies, in innocence.
Of course that this is not easy, but neither it
is impossible.
We make for this case, the following challenge:
Leave this reading. Begin to escrudiñar the writings just as the Lord it has sent him.
After some time, when he finds these a little more family, and it feels that they are not as boring as they seemed at the beginning, he/she will be with which there there were some quite interesting informations and that somehow you no se había enterado de que allí estaban, porque nadie se las había enseñado así.
There it is where you comienza a ver algunas diferencias
entre lo que está escrito, y lo que se hace, y probablemente, se
plantee la pregunta lógica ¿porqué los cambios? For
what reason was it written in a way and is it made of another? Is it correct
to make the things in a way different to like we have been sent by the
writing?
Is the shift of the doubts now: is it correct what I am understanding? Am I entitled the of thinking? Is it I licit to understand? Will it be of God or of the Devil? The Lord it will condemn me to have me daring to understand? Will I be I save in the ignorance? Will it be bad to want the intelligence for my soul or can single God possess it?
Then it is the time of returning another time to the writings because they will answer him these and all the questions and they will stop their satisfied soul to the point to begin to enjoy and to enjoy them as he/she made it Nefi (2 Ne.4:15,16), and they will develop in their mind the stability and the trust in their God that never before had had. (Hel.15:7-10)
Now you comienza a ver que los escritos sagrados escondían cosas que Ud. he/she didn't suspect.
That indeed, the Lord he/she speaks more than the problems of their people that of those of the world; that prophesies more than corruptions of their church that of the incredulity of the pagans and atheists; that denounces the condemnation of Israel using most of you paginate them to this problem, and that he/she reserves alone some paragraphs for their blessings; that speaks more than the punishments that of the prizes; that throws paleer than good waves; that doesn't speak of peace, love and flowers but of blood and sword. (Mateo 10:34)
That the main warnings, admonishments go directed mainly to their people and church, and not to the heathens, pagans or atheistic, exactly because them anything has to do with the business of the Lord, but to us it is to who it has been left taken charge to be the saviors of the men and responsible for being the salt of the earth. Or not?.
And that to who is accused of sin, corruption,
and of being the first ones in responsibility before God, it is the leaders
and shepherds, to the drivers of the flock and not to the flock in yes,
as they want to make us believe every Sunday, when being gone up to the
pulpit and from there up, to point with the accusing finger directing it
toward the sheep.
That is to say that their foundation, the foundation of their mental structure or intellectual consists of very few elements, but nevertheless they declare to have everything. With five bricks they believe to have enough for a house. Demonstrable contradiction, not alone toward the other ones but and what is worse toward itself.
This doesn't go in I deteriorate, neither it is to disqualify the one that makes an effort to change, focusing their life toward a new horizon, but rather we try to show the fragility, and the precariousness of these positions that basing us on the Teacher's declaration", we believe it is dangerous, since, if the foundation is not stable, before any storm the building will fall.
It is because of this closed and unstable position that they condemn to their couples that, they understand that they are not possessors of the whole available knowledge, or simply if when finding other points of view they want to add these to their baggage.
Because this attitude challenges its false and
ignorant security, denouncing to its mind and spirit that such a trust
is doubtful, and this angers them to the point of developing persecutions
and campaigns against the heretics that in fact don't make another thing
that to question such stabilities. And if this false security cannot be
demonstrated then by the reason they will be confirmed by the violence
toward who you/they insult us with the audacity of declaring us that we
were not partial or totally in the certain thing.
14 ...todos has strayed, except for
some few ones that are the humble pupils of Christ; however they are guided
in such a way that you/they miss in many cases because they are taught
by the precepts of the men.
13. The word, because, of Jehová it will be they commandment after commandment, command has more than enough command, line after line, line it has more than enough line, a little bit there, another little bit there; until they go and fall turned, and be smashed, connected and prisoners.
DyC 98
12. Because He will give to the faithful line it has more than enough line, precept after precept; and in this I will judge you and I will prove you.
(Otras in: 2 Ne.28:30; DyC 84:44 - 128:21.)
24. Therefore oh of the calm one in Zion!
25. Oh of the one that exclaims: All this well!
26. Yes, oh of that that listens the precepts of the men, and he/she denies the power of God and the gift of the Sacred Spirit!
27. If, Oh of that that says: we have received, and we don't need more!
28. And finally, oh of all those that tremble, and they are angry because of the truth of God! Because there am here, that that is built on the rock, receives it with joy; and the one that is founded on a sandy foundation, trembles for fear of falling.
29. Oh of the one that says: we have received the word of God, and we don't need more than the word of God, because we already have enough!
30. Because he/she says this way the Lord: I will Give to the children of the men line for line, precept for precept, a little here and a little there; and saints are those that listen my precepts and they pay attention to my advice, because they will learn wisdom; because to who receives, I will give him more; and to those that say we have enough, it will even be removed them that that tuvieren.
2 Ne.29
3. and because my words will resonate
- many of the Heathens will say: A Bible! A Bible! We have a Bible!, and
it cannot have more than a Bible.
3. And that deep abyss that has dug for them that big and abominable church, which the devil and their children settled down to drive the souls from the men to the hell, if, that deep abyss that has been dug for the destruction of the men, will be filled with those that opened it, until its complete destruction, he/she says the lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, unless it is throwing it in that hell that doesn't have end.
4. Because I have here that this goes
of agreement with the devil's captivity, and also with the justice of God,
on all those that make iniquities and abominations before him.
15. And have more than enough these I write the things of my soul, and many of the writings that are recorded on the brass irons. Because my soul delights in the writings and my heart meditates them, and I write them for the instruction and the benefit of my children.
16. There is my soul here he/she delights
in the things of the Lord and my heart meditates the things that seen continually
and heard.
7. And there am here, you know for you same, because you have witnessed it that how many of them arrive to the knowledge of the truth and that is of the perverse abominable traditions of their parents, and they are driven to believe the Saints writings, yes the written prophecies of the sacred prophets that take them to the faith in the Lord and to the regret, that faith and regret that it makes a change of heart of them.
8. Therefore, how many have arrived to this point, you know for you same that are firm and unalterable in the faith and in that with what you/they have become free.
10. And for reasons of their stability,
when they end up believing in that that you/they believe, for cause, because,
of their stability, once they are illuminated, there am here, the Lord
it will bless them and it will prolong their days in spite of the iniquity.
34. You don't think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come couple to bring peace but sword.
35. Because I have come to put in disagreement to the man against their father, to the daughter against their mother and to the daughter-in-law against their mother-in-law;
36. and the enemies will be those of
their house.
Jehová this tired of their shepherds.
Zac 10
3. Against the shepherds he/she has lit my anger, and I will punish the bosses. Because Jehová of the Armies will visit to its flock, to the house of Judá, and it will put them as its horse of honor in the war.
Eze 34
10. Lord Jehová has said this
way: there am here I am against the shepherds, and I will demand my sheep
of its hands! I will make that they stop to graze the sheep, and they will
stop to graze to themselves. I will liberate my sheep of their mouths,
and they won't serve them more than food.
That to protect, to take care and to make them arrive to you costó demasiados esfuerzos de muchos hombres que dieron sus vidas por esta causa.
That when considering that they cost so many lives, so many deaths, so much blood, becomes difficult to see our passivity, still in the fact of to say and to swear that we accept them as sacred books without to make something and to see us here, without finding out what you/they say, still offering the opportunity to be part of this special moment of the human history.
When he/she realizes some of these things, then beginning to understand will be newly how much it is still necessary to understand.
He/she will no longer have the value to continue
denying the undeniable thing, of continuing protecting that that to you
no lo protege, y podrá ver por sí mismo y claramente entender,
porqué "Las escrituras tenían razón".
JEREMÍAS 3
2 ...y look in that place has not prostituted.
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