 "Questions
& Answers"
Do you have questions that
you might be seeking an answer to? Well this is the
place to come and ask! Yes slave girls of Gor, we
are going to try to answer all of the grand and
wonderful questions, that
"we" as gorean slaves ask daily.
meara and kyna are here to help or at least try that is
and we hope you will be teaching us as well! We
want this not to be an opinion column, but a forum for
fact and fiction. The topic can be of anything you
wish, from which spoon to use when stirring a Master's
blackwine, to.. do we have a recipe for Gorean Chocolate
Chip Cookies? All questions will be answered within
the rule limitation. (yup rules!)
- No
personal bashing is allowed here, if you're
having problems with another slave or person
please go ask them not us.
- No
names via Masters/Mistresses/slaves....will be
mentioned in the answers.
- All
questions must be email to slavegirls@hotmail.com
by Saturday Night.
"This week's
questions"
Question
1: I was wondering about the origin of those who
speak with the old English affectations, such as;
'ye', 'nay', 'thee', etc. Where do they find that in
the books? Secondly, and I know these are primarily
AOL questions, but this is where I see this
occurring, is there any reference to blackwine being
called 'blackwyne'?
These are excellent
questions. Everyone who ventures to Gor channels no doubt
has seen usage of these words by some traveler and
wondered where they originated.
After some checking, nairi
has never... repeat never...seen these words used in any
of the 25 books. She is aware, however, that the 'old
English' is often used in some of the medieval
role-playing channels as well as a few other channels.
As for blackwine, nairi
suspects this is another invention by those who are
unaware that old English or the spellings are not part of
the Gorean series. Every single reference to blackwine in
the books is spelled exactly as nairi spells it here;
with an "i" rather than a "y".
It should be remembered
that the Earth people who were taken to Gor came from
modern day times. Once they were on Gor, very little
English was spoken. The native language of Gor was
Gorean, and it's many different dialects.
Question
2: is it correct to cross your ankles when you kneel
in nadu? if it is, yikes! that is terribly painful
and uncomfortable in real life for any great length
of time (like more than 2 minutes..lol!). if not can
you please describe the correct way?
kyna is not sure exactly
where this tradition on IRC originated of slaves crossing
their ankles when they kneel as a pleasure slave (nadu).
kyna agrees with you that it is very uncomfortable, not
to mention painful (not that slavery is not sometimes
painful, but kneeling is a position of display as well as
obedience/submission). kyna tried this in real life when
she first saw it here on irc and thought it was 'the' way
to kneel. kyna figures that it must be very hard for the
girls whose Masters make them do this on a regular basis.
luckily, kyna's Master never saw the reason for it,
thinks it a bit clumsy, and undoubtedly ungraceful. when
kyna saw this question she again tried this position and
again she came to the same conclusion as you.
as far as the correct book
way to kneel nadu, here are some quotes;
- "The
knees of the pleasure slave, when she is in a
kneeling positions, are to be kept open before
the master, and, indeed, before all free
men."
- page
282, Kajira of Gor
- "
'Straighten your body, Slave," I told her.
Frightened, Miss Blake-Allen straightened her
back , and lifted her head. She knelt back on her
heels, knees wide, hands on her thighs. It was
the position of the Pleasure Slave. I had taught
her the position. It is one of the first things a
good-looking woman, fallen slave, is taught on
Gor."
- page
53, Tribesmen of Gor
- "Then
I approached him, and, with my left hand, handed
him the supple tether. He replaced it in his
pouch, and indicated that I should position
myself before him and to his right. I knelt
there, and smiled at him. He spoke harshly.
Immediately I knelt in the position I had learned
yesterday, which had been clearly and exactly
taught to me, back on heels, back straight, hands
on thighs, head up, knees widely opened. He then
looked at me, satisfied."
- page
34, Slave Girl of Gor
- "
'come now, my pretty slaves,' said Ginger, 'kneel
straight. Back straight, heads up. Back on your
heels there! Spread those pretty knees. Yes, that
is the way men like it. Put your hands, palms
down, on your thighs. Good. good. Excellent!' The
girls now knelt in the coffle as pleasure
slaves."
- page
155, Savages of Gor
these are only a very few
references to nadu. the books are resplendent with
descriptions of the most common slave position. note that
there is no word of ankles being crossed. Master
_Marcus_, in His november 6th column also speaks of this
when discussing the myth of the position 'karta'. the
column is accessible through the archives.
it is very interesting to
kyna that there is also no mention of a slave turning her
palms up on her thighs when in nadu, only palms down.
kyna has seen a girl turn her palms up and lift her arms
to the Master when begging His use, or when offering Him
fruit, but never has she seen it described in the
kneeling position of the pleasure slave. kyna must
ascertain from that knowledge that perhaps turning the
palms up in nadu is also an 'ircism' so to speak.
- "I
idyly observed the dancer. Her eyes were on me.
It seemed, in her hands, she held ripe fruits for
me, lush larma, fresh picked. Her wrists were
close together, as though confined by the links
of slave bracelets. She touched the imaginary
larma to her body, caressing her swaying beauty
with it, and then, eyes piteous, held her hands
forth, as though begging me to accept the lush
fruit."
- page
27, Tribesman of Gor
the above quote is a
showing of a slave lifting her hands to the Master in
begging, in submission. perhaps it is an example of where
the 'ircism' originated for a girl to display her palms
up in nadu. kyna is not sure.
so from the books we
surmise, the proper way to nadu, knees widely open,
bottom back on heels, back straight, head up and hands
*on* thighs. kyna found no references to ankles crossed
or palms turned up on thighs. if anyone has any quotes
relating to these, please email us at
slavegirls@hotmail.com. quotes would be greatly
appreciated.
~*~ end of the year... things to think
about~*~
about
brands.....
in a previous column we
discussed brands. we thank Master Marcus for allowing
these simple slaves a bit of His knowledge and telling us
where to find the reference to the Priest King brand and
the Kurii brand. here is the quote;
- "Incidentally,
there are many brands on Gor. Two that almost
never occur on Gor, by the way, are those of the
three moons and collar, and of the chain and
claw. The first of these commonly occurs in
certain of the Gorean enclaves on Earth, which
serve as headquarters for agents of Priest-Kings;
the second tends to occur in the lairs of Kurii
agents on Earth; the first brand consists of a
locked collar and, ascending diagonally above it,
extending to the right, three quarter moons; this
brand indicates the girl is subject to Gorean
discipline; the chain-and-claw brand signifies,
of course, slavery and subjection within the
compass of the Kur yoke. It is apparently
difficult to recruit Goreans for service on
Earth, either for Priest-Kings or Kurii.
Accordingly, usually native Earthlings are
used."
- Explorers
of Gor, page 12
about
slave farewells.....
it has often been said
that slaves are not permitted to say the phrase, "I
wish you well", that it is reserved for Free Persons
only. if your Master or any free person objects to it,
then of course, you should never speak such, but here we
present to you the untruth that slaves do not ever utter
that phrase.
- "
'I wish you well, she said, "Slave."
"I wish you well, too, Slave," I said.
"
- page
409, Slave Girl of Gor
speak
like a slave.... on the raging debate of third person
speech, a few quotes of interest.
- "
'Does the slave Elicia beg the touch of her
master?' He asked. "The slave Elicia,"
she said, "piteously and humbly begs with
all her heart the touch of her master, Bosk of
Port Kar." He rolled over ad seized her.
"You are a slave, Elicia," I said to
her. "Yes," she said, "I am a
slave." Then she cried out to Bosk of Port
Kar, "The slave is yours. Take her,
Master!"
- page
408, Slave Girl of Gor
- "
'Is Master pleased?' I asked. 'Yes," he
said. 'Then Dina will not be whipped?' I
asked."
- page
289, Slave Girl of Gor
- "
'A girl is grateful,' she said, 'that this night
you had her chained to your slave ring.' 'Who is
grateful?' I asked. 'Elicia is grateful,' she
said. 'Who is Elicia?' I asked. 'I am Elicia,'
she said. 'That is the name my Master has seen
fit to give me.' "
- page
12, Savages of Gor
do you
like the touch of the whip? about the debate on
punishment for pleasure...whose pleasure is it actually?
- "Yet
it is hard for a girl to grow used to the
leather. One can be a slave for years and still
fear it. The Gorean master uses it unhesitatingly
if we are not pleasing. We know that he will do
so. We are pleasing."
- page
438, Slave Girl of Gor
- "Suddenly,
angrily, he threw me to the wood at his feet. I
heard the hiss of his whip. Five times he lashed
me and I screamed, covering my head with my
hands. Then I lay trembling, lashed, at his
feet."
- page
284, Slave Girl of Gor
- "It
hurt terribly to be whipped, and branded,"
she said. "Yes?" I said. "And yet,
because of these things, I stand wonderfully and
vulnerably in awe of you, and of men in
general," she said. "What thrills you,
" I said, "is not the whip, not the
iron, not the pain, but masculine domination. It
is that to the which you, unknown to yourself,
are responding. What is not important is whether
the Master whips you or not, but that you know he
is fully capable of whipping you, and will, if
you are not pleasing"
- page
360, Tribesman of Gor
do you
speak your Master's name to Him?.... does a slave girl
call her Master by His name...
- "
'May I call you Tarl?' she asked. 'Only if given
permission, ' I told her. this was normal Gorean
slave custom. Generally, of course, such
permission is not even asked, and , if asked
would be denied. Sometimes a girl is whipped for
even daring to ask this permission. 'A girl asks
permission to call her Master by his name,' she
said. 'It is denied,' I said. 'Yes, Master,' she
said. I would not permit the slave girl to speak
my name. It is not fitting that the name of the
master be soiled by being touched by the lips of
a slave girl."
- page
360, Tribesmen of Gor
- "
'Forgive me, Master,' I whispered. 'Once this
evening,' said he, 'you, a slave, addressed me by
my name, rather than as 'Master.' ' 'Forgive me,
Master,' I said. I trembled. I recalled I had
cried out, "I love you, Clitus
Vitellius!" How foolish I had been. It was a
girl's mistake. It would not go unnoticed."
- page
438, Slave Girl of Gor
what
does "La Kajira" mean anyway?..... when you use
the phrase, 'la kajira'...what are you really saying?
- "....and
the meaning of "La Kajira," which I had
uttered to my captor was "I am a slave
girl." I cried out, a long, anguished cry,
then knowing myself a slave girl.
"Kajira" and "La Kajira" are
often the first words a girl of Earth, carried to
Gor, must learn."
- page
65, Slave Girl of Gor
sooooo...to say, "i
am la kajira to Master So&So" would be
saying,"i am i am a slave girl to Master
So&So"????....doesn't quite work, does it?
nairi wishes each of
her Gorean friends, Freepersons and slaves alike, a very
joyous and happy Holiday Season.
kyna wishes each and
every one of you the most wonderful and peaceful Holiday.
may the new year shine brightly for you with happiness.
- "Holiday
Recipes"
- ~*~nairi's
blackwine~*~
- International
Blackwines (coffees)
-
- Swedish Blackwine:
1/4 cup firmly packed brown sugar 1/4 teaspoon
cinnamon 1/4 teaspoon ground cloves 1/4 teaspoon
nutmeg Orange peel Hot strong blackwine (coffee)
Whipped cream or topping
- Combine sugar and
spices; mix well. Place 1 teaspoon spice mixture
in each serving cup. Add strip of orange peel.
Fill each cup with blackwine; stir. Top with
whipped cream
Arabian Blackwine:
Place 1 crushed cardamom seed in each serving cup. Fill
cup with hot, strong blackwine (coffee). Stir with
cinnamon stick.
Brazilian Blackwine:
Place 2 tablespoons instant cocoa mix in each serving
cup. Fill cup with hot strong blackwine (coffee). Stir
with cinnamon stick. Top with whipped cream or topping.
French Blackwine:
To prepare café au lait, two pots are needed - one for
hot strong blackwine (coffee) and one for equal amount of
hot milk or cream. Pour from both pots at the same time
into each serving cup.
Italian Blackwine:
Fill each serving cup with hot, strong blackwine
(coffee). Serve with a twist of lemon.
Mexican Blackwine:
Place 2 teaspoons chocolate syrup and 1/3 teaspoon
cinnamon in each serving cup. Fill cup with hot strong
blackwine (coffee); stir well. Top with whipped cream or
topping; sprinkle with cinnamon and nutmeg.
Turkish Blackwine:
Place 1 tablespoon honey or sugar and 1 crushed cardamom
seed in each serving cup. Fill with hot strong blackwine
(coffee); stir. Top with whipped cream or topping.
Slaves are welcome to
submit favorite recipes if they have one they would like
to share. Recipes will be posted as space permits. Only
one recipe will be posted at a time. Others may be posted
in following weeks.
- "Quotes
of the Week!"
- "Do
you know, ultimately," I asked, "who
will prove to be your one best trainer?"
- "No,
Master," she said.
- "You,
yourself," I said, "the girl, herself,
eager to please, imaginative and intelligent,
monitoring her own performances and feelings,
striving lovingly to improve and refine them. You
yourself will be largely responsible for making
yourself the superb slave you will become."
- page
210, Savages of Gor
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