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ASBURY WASHINGTON SAYE MANUSCRIPT, PART 1, pages 1 through 25

This manuscript is in two parts, and I have done my best to maintain the file as received. Donald M. Ricks:

"When I scanned the original manuscripts many years ago the scanner I used at that time was very primitive, and the OCR'ed text required a great deal of work to obtain the properly format. The two attached documents are the result of that effort. As I state in the forward pages I tried to maintain the layout of the original manuscripts that were typewritten.

At this time, I do not have the original scanned pages, as I did years ago. At some point in the near future, I intend to rescan the manuscripts into photo pages so that the original layout will be preserved.

I do want to preserve the integrity of the information contained in them and would like to maintain the forward page that I added to the documents.

Ed Aposhian [of Simi Valley, California]"

FAMILY HISTORY




DEDICATED TO

PERDILLA ELLEN SAYE McCULLUM
JOHN NEWTON SAYE
MARY JANE SAYE COX
AMANDA EMELINE SAYE SELLERS
WILLIAM EDWARD SAYE
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WRITTEN BY
******ASBURY W. SAYE*******
FRIDAY THE 16TH OF SEPTEMBER A. D. 1898

FOREWORD

"The following document is one of two documents originally written by my great-grandfather Asbury Washington Saye. I acquired a few copies of the original document from different sources but they were all poor quality copies and difficult to read. I decided to retype the document using a computer word processor with the intent to make a document as exact as possible to the original. So using the copies I had I attempted to make each line and each page duplicate the original including all spelling and punctuation errors as well as all crossed out text. Where it was possible to read I typed the crossed out text with strikeout text. There were a few places in the copies that the exact character or characters were not decipherable so I made a best guess in those situations. My intent in duplicating the document in this way was to allow readers to experience the exact feeling and intent of the original writer and to see the sometimes unusual spelling of many of the words.

Asbury W. Saye was the father of Amanda Emeline Saye Sellers who was the Mother of Auda Angline Sellers Aposhian who was my mother. I am the sixth and last child of George Moses and Auda Aposhian.

This document was retyped using Wordperfect 5.1 on an IBM PC compatible computer. It was printed using Courier font which most closely matches the original type. If anyone would like a copy of either the printed text or a computer disk please contact me.

I hope readers will enjoy reading this fascinating history as much as I have enjoyed retyping it.

November 1, 1993

Edwin Paul Aposhian
2844 Barnes Street
Simi Valley, California 93065
805-583-1202"

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To my dear Children:

I will now try to write a little history of the Saye family, as promised you before I left Texas. I know I am not capacitated to to do it as it ought to be done, but I will do the best I can.

My Great Grand Father come over from England about the year 1760 was six weeks making the Voyage, which was not uncommon in those days. The Emigrants that came over with him and he with them, settled in Pennsylvania. He there married Miss Mary Hodge, who come over in the same Vessel with him, though I do not know wheather they became acquainted on the Voyage or not, they may have known each other before leaving England. Soon after their marriage they emigrated to south Carolina, settled in what is now Union County, there became a thrifty farmer, and was doing well when the Revolutionary war broke out, and like all Presbyterians of the Colonies, he volunteered his services to his adopted country to defend her rights against British oppression, the causes of which you are acquainted with. He fell at the seige of Savanah, August 1779., he left a widow with seven children, three boys and four girls, the boys were named James, William and Richard, who was named for his Father, he being born in the year 1777, he was my Grand Father. My Great Grand Mother raised her fami- ly in Union County. About the time her youngest children were grown she removed to Wilks County Georgia, which was about 1796 or 7. Herself and family connected themselves to the oldest Presbyterian chur? ch in North Georgia, organized by the Rev. John Newton the first Presbyterian Minister who settled in North Georgia. The church was org- anized October 1788 in Wilks County, then Elbert County now Madison County, though the Church is still on the same ground it was first built upon. The oldest son James married a Miss Caruthers, he first settled in Jackson, he settled on the north fork of the Ocone River

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ultimately in Hall County, he died in 1850. His children have all passed away but two Richard Saye of Atlanta and his sister Adaline are still living. William Says went to Missouri in early life of the family, I know but little, I know he raised one son Benjamin, my father and him once kept up correspondence. Two of my Great Grand Mothers girls married men by the name of Thomson, James Thomson was a soldier in the Revolution, was in the battle of Kings Mountain, hip pantaloons was worn in those days and kept up with draw strings, drawing them to the back, his draw string was cut to pieces by a ball from the British lines. James and Robert Thomson's raised their families in what is now Madison County but I know nothing of their families. one of the girls married one William Hodge a distant relative of her Mothers. I became acquainted with one of his sons who lived in Cobb County Georgia. The other daughter never married. My grand Father Richard Saye married a Miss Gardner, her Father served three years in the Revolut ionary War. He was then living in Pennsylvania, soon after the war he emigrated to wilks County, now Madison county., Not long after Grand Fathers marriage he and Christopher Gardner his Father-in-law removed to Franklin County where he raised his family, also Grand Father Gard ner raised a large family. My Grand Mother was the only child by his first wife. That part of Franklin County where Grand Father lived is cut off to Banks County, Banks was organized in 1858. My Father was raised in Franklin, joined the Hebron Church which of my Grand Father was an Elder. I passed the church yesterday for the first time in my life, and I will not likely ever pass there any more, but I was glad to see the place hallowed by the associations of so many of my kindred. The church was organized over one hundred years ago, my father united with the church in 1823 or 4. My Grand Father raised 7 children 4 girls and 3 boys, William was the oldest son, he was my Father, James was the second. John Brown was the third, the girls was Mary, Elithebeth

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Perdella Newton named for their Pastor who preached at Hebron for them for a number of years, Juliett Wilson named for Dr. Wilson pastor for a long time at Lawrenceville, and Fairview and other churches in Guinnett county. Dr. Brown was also their pastor at Hebron for w while, his name was attached to the third son. My Grand Father removed to Guinnett in 1825 and became an Elder of the Fairview congration. I don't know wheather Uncle James had joined the church before Grand Father removed to Guinnett or not, but it was not long before he became an active member and wanting to preach, he was assisted by Dr. Wilson and others until he acquired a Collegiate Education, then was sent to Columbia to the Seminary to finish his Theological course, then he was ordained to the full work of the Ministry, he preached one year in McDonough in Henry County Georgia, then went back into South Carolina married Miss Rebecka McJunkin, his labors in the Ministry was confined to the Northern part of South Carolina, he labored in the Ministry for about sixty five years, he died in November 1892 at the advanced age of eighty four years. Uncle James had a son in Texas Teaching in one of the Colleges there sickned and died, his death occured in 1884, his oldest son that is Uncles, he died near Manassas in Virginia in 1861 near the place where our first Great Battle was fought for Southern Independence. I was near where he died but did not know that my cousin was in the Army until I heard of his death. Uncle James has two other sons, one is practicing medicine, the other is Farming, taking care of his old mother on her farm in her declining years. Uncle also raised several daughters, they and their families live in South Carolina, except the oldest one Margaret Shaw, her husband is practicing medecine at Ocosaville, eleven miles below Rome in Floyd County Georgia. Their oldest son I hear is in Texas practicing medicine, his name is William Shaw, if you should by any means meet up with him please make his acq- uantance. While I am so journeying back in Georgia, My Uncle John Brown

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Saye when he grew up up he also made a preacher, he received his edu cation in Marysville Tennessee, he after finishing his course of study was ordained to the full work of the Ministry, settled in East Tenness ee married a Miss Hart, not remaining long there he and his father-in- law moved to Indiana and finally removed to Springfield Illinois. Uncle John raised 3 children, one son Thomas I don't recollect the girls names, uncle died about the year 1874 or 5 if we heard correctly. A little while before General Lee's surrender when all appeared to be lost one of my cousins left Lee,s lines went over to the Federal lines told them he had give up and wished them to send him to Springfield Illinois, which they generously did without making him a prisioner of War. He was carried to Springfield, there he hunted up our Uncle, the family was much surprised and glad indeed to see one of their fathers connection but astonished to think he or their kin could have been fighting on the confederate side, they would say to him and cousin John a cecescionist., cousin would frankly tell them he was to their great surptise. They would have been as he was if Uncle had have removed back to Georgia instead of going North. It was the school North and South that was teaching the great sectional principals that so divided the two great sections of our country, that brought about the great struggle for Southern Independence. Both sides fought as they thought for their own existance. Before I proceed further I will try to explain why Presbyterians and Baptist were generally found on the Whig or Rebel side in Colonial times. England in establishing and Governing her Colonies extended her civil and Ecclecitstical laws alike. That placed the Episcopalion church in all the civil authority so far as the clergy had to do in executing the laws, hence the Presbyterian or Baptist could not marry the young people of their own congregations they were looked upon as Illegal bodies of worshipers, and to have the marriage vows performed legally they were required to get the

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Episcopal Clergy, their ceremonies were long and out of place as these dissenting bodies of worshippers believed, some parties would not consent to all of the ceremony believing it taught Idolity of the Bridegrooms body to that of the Bride, some times the Bridegroom would stop the Minister and tell him he would not consent to such an obligation, they would stop and compromise by the minister telling them he would leave out that part of the ceremony that was obnoxious to them, not being recognized as lawful bodies of worshippers caused them to have no love for England and was ready to take up arms in defence of their liberties., and other bodies of dissenters also were ready to take up arms in defence of Colonial rights. The first Declaration of Independence was gotten up by a body of Presbyterians in Mecklinburg county North Carolina in 1774.But to return to our History. Fathers oldest sister Mary always known to us as Aunt Polly was married in 1823 to Harvey Flemming of Hall County, but was raised in Franklin county in the neighborhood of my Grand Fathers, he died in Cobb county Georgia in 1848, leaving a large family to the care of his wife which she managed well, her children have been found among the Judicinal and executive bodies of the State. Aunt died In 1879, was born in 1802. Fathers second sister was Married to Major Azeriah Noel in 1828, they riased a large family of which only 3 were boys, the two boys living, one in Texas, the other in the Indian Territory, one died in the confederate war. Three of the girls have moved to Texas, one of them have died since her removal, one died in childhood, another died after she had arrived at womanhood, four of them are still living in Georgia, but none of them on the old homestead, they are all doing well, and are raising high toned families. Uncles family feels very near to me as we were raised up so much together. My third Aunt was married to one William Braselton in 1844, they raised their family in Cherokee county Georgia, the only son living is in Louisana. I don't know how he is

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doing, his sisters are doing very well, Aunt Perdilla Baselton died in 1889, born in 1817. I omitted to state that Aunt Elithebeth Noel died in 1884, was born In 1811. My fourth Aunt Juliet was married to Allen Dodds, they were raised up in sight of each other and of course knew each other well, they were married in 1850 emigrated to Arkansas in 1855, Uncle Allen Dodds died about 3 years ago about 68 years old, Aunt Juliett Dodds is living yet so far as I know if living she is the only one living of my Grand Fathers family, is 73 years old. My Grand Father was born in 1777, I suppose married in 1801 died in 1867. My Grand Mother was born in 1782 in Pennsylvania, removed in early life to Georgia died in 1858. Since we removed to Texas quite an excitement has gotten up among our kin about an enormous amount of wealth which is ready for us if we can prove that we are the legal heirs to Lord Sage's money which has been resting in the V aults of England for 150 years, fathers cousin Richard Saye has been doing his best to see if we are not the right ones but he is giving it up as helpless as he can not find out whether William Saye who should have been a brother to our Great Grand Father was the Lord Saye or not of England, neither could he hear where these rich Vaults of money were kept. I have not believed in the story at all, have never give it any encouragement, I could not see any face of reason in it, money is not apt to rest so lo long for the want of an owner, and then if we are the decendents of the Lords of England we certainly have gone to seed., so I have given the report no credit at all. I will now proceed to give you some account of your Grand Father, my Grand Fathers oldest son. Fathers life was a varied one, I suppose all mens lives are, fathers probably not more then others. He was bron the 5th of October 1804, I do not know whether he was carried to Franklin in his infancy or born in Franklin county, the place where my Great Grand Mother settled was then Wilks county , when Elbert was made she was found in Elbert county, when madison was made she was found in madison county, though

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living all the time on the same farm, if my father was born down there it was Elbert county at that time, Madison was organized in 1812 when my father was 8 years old, my Grand Father was a Gun Smith so it was very natural for my father to learn the use of tools, he kept Black Smith tools, some times employed a black smith, did not like to work att the trade himself, preferred being on his farm or at his mill. Father when grown left his father and went to live with his brother in law Harvey Flemming in Hall county that was in 1824, returning to his fath- ersers he assisted him in moving to Guinnett county, the next year and assisted him in opening up his farm that year, while living with Uncle Harvey Flemming in Hall he became acquainted with my mother living in Habbersham county, they were married the 26th of April 1826, it is now White county where they were married, father brought my Mother to Guinnett county and continued to open up Grand Fathers farm that year, in the fall of the year he removed to Hall county where he was struggling along as most young man have to do that are poor, in 1828 gold was discovered over among the Indians not far from where my father was living a little stream known as Chestatee River was the line between the whites and Cherokee Indians, all eager to make some money rushed over the river and went to digging gold without asking permission of the Indians, they of course did not want to be intruded upon, began to grumble about their treaty not being respected by the whites, they would have gone to war but Governor Gilmer sent Major Wayne with some troops drove the intruders back across the Chestatee to their own side, but it was not long until another treaty was made which gave all the In Indian country lying within the boundry line of Georgia to the whites, where the intrusion took place is now Lumpkin county. Some Histories state that some of the Intruders was put in prison, but my father seemed to know nothing of tha-t. There was a law passed soon after this trouble that all persons found on Indian Territory should be imprisioned

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for four years some of the missionaries that was preaching to the Cherokees was arrested tryed and found guilty, but as their homes had been among the Indians for a long time, they sued the State for Damages but before they had a trial for damages they acknowledged the Authority of the state, wrote to Governor Gilmer to release them which he did. My father made some gold in the intrusion which started him up some. Three of fathers brother-in-laws, my Mothers brothers also dug gold in time of the intrusion and made good wages. Uncle Harvey Flemming was among the first of the intruders, none of my connection were molested, but when the order to retire from the Indian grounds was made they all went to their homes without molestation. In time of the gold digging on May the 19th 1829 your father first light on that beautiful May morning that puts men now in my seventieth year, near the alloted days of man. In my earliest recollection in 1833 my father removed to Guinnett county bought part of his fathers farm to help the old man get out of debt, which he succeeded in doing. On account of the treaties of Georgia with the Indians, and the United States treaties with them, they were often perplexed and incensed at the Whites. It seemed that hostilities would take place, though the Cherokees killed some of their Cheifs for making the treaties they made, they continued peacebly with the whites and was finally removed to their present territory in 1838., from the time of my Fathers marrigge until their removal to the west he was often among them trading withthem for they were great hands to traffic, he was once relating a foot race he was almost forced into to keep them in good humor, he had went over the Chestatee River among them to buy some hogs, they we were buisy hunting the hogs, when one of the young Indians who thoug- ht he could run very fast proposed a foot race with father, so the ground was marked off the length of race agreed, upon the signal giv- en they started with all speed, father had laid off his hat,at the end

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of the race father was found to be a little ahead, he turned around a and pointed to fathers head said it was not fair as he had thrown away his hat so the race must be run over, so putting on his hat they ran again, father made out to beat him a little, that satisfied him then they went on in the best of humor hunting their hogs, father made a good trade for some of their hogs very pleasantly. I give this incident merely to give you an idea of the pleasant social relations that was existing up to their removal.In 1835 father carried his brother John to Maryville Tennessee to school, they had to go through the Blue Ridge Mountains, the white settlements were far apart, they often had to lodge with the Indians, and the Indians living in the mountains were very poor living in pole cabbins with dirt floors with no furniture but having a big pot to boil their homminy called by them connehony with large blue beans boiled with their corn made it look very unpalateable especially when they had to beat the dogs off with their homminy paddles, but it was that or nothing, but travel all day without food they could take enough of it to travel on the next day. If uncle could have waited until now he could have went in one day without being either hungry or tired, when bedtime came a deer skin was thrown down, they would place their saddle blanket on it, their pillow was their saddle, the Indians would then look around and give the Indian grunt of satisfaction looking on them as well fixed. What wonderful changes has taken place since my recollections, the advancement in the Arts and scenes have been so great, I leave the subject to men to give who are capacitated to give for it would take volumes to give as we ought to have it. When the Creeks Indians made their Treaty they included the Seminoles of Florida consisting them runaways, the word Seminole means runaway, it was partly true for some of the dissatisfied Creeks had runaway to Florida,many years before this, the Seminoles were runaways from several tribes and had formed an alliance with

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each other to make one Nation and quit a number of negro slaves at different times made good their escape from their masters, some of them became servants to the Indians, more of them maintained their independence with them married among the Indians until they were living together as one people, so they had become politically and secondary a part of the runaway or Seminole tribe, the owners of those slaves would sometimes hunt them out and return them to their plantations. That was very expensive to both Indian and Negro and when the Creeks made their treaty to move beyond the Mississippi in 1835 they declared war as they were not recognized as a tribe and had not been given any territory. Before this General Wiley Thomson had been sent to Florida as the Agent of the United States to settle all difficulties that might arise, he was to settle the vexed question often occuring about the title of Negroes who had ranaway from their masters, some of these Negroes had been there for a long time and some one would come and claim them and if it was a woman and had married and boren children the children also became legal property to the claiment. I have no doubt that some of these claims to this kind of property was incorrect though Gen. Thomson was trying to do right but had to give a verdict according to the testimony in the case this caused him his death, there was a many by the name of powell who was an Indian trader, married an Indian woman raised a son down there among the Indians, this young man became a leading Indian among them he married a woman who had some Indian blood and some Negro blood, a man came and claimed that she was his property, the evidence being in his favor he taken young Powells wife with her children and returned to his home in Georgia if he had one, this all hapening in the fall of 1835 when there was already a great deal of discontent among them, not being recognized as a seperate tribe in the treaty stipulations, young Powell swore vengance against Gen. Thomson after loosing his family, he lay around the Fort

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seeking a chance to kill Thomson, the General seeing discontent among the Indians and fearing an outbreak he made some arrangements to Garison the Fort Stranger, in so doing he would have to send a party of his troops through the everglades to Tampa Bay for reinforcements and it was a man living in the neighborhood of the Fort who owned a Negro man who had piloted some parties through the country to Tampa Bay, he let the Indians know it and made arrangements with them to ambush and massacre the troops, he would pilot through and picking out the place for them to do their bloody work he was to drop out just before he should get to that place and turn around and help them do their work, it worked as they had agreed to do, the place of the massacre was not far from the Fort they were coming to strengthen , but far enough to keep them from hearing evening their guns, the same/ening of the massacre it being the 28th of December 1835, young Powell shot and killed General Thomson and one of his officers while they were walking out for recreation outside of the Fort. Powell then made his escape to the Indians as they were making their Jollifications over their Victory and massacre over Major Dade and his w whole command, but one man escaped to tell the story. This young Powell became the dreaded Oceola the Great Chief of the Seminole, for he certainly revenged himself for the loss of his wife and children, if revenge could satisfy the mind, after this they turned themselves loose and devasitated 80 miles of the frontier country of Georgia and Florida, before aid could be sent to their relief. Several bloody battles were fought at different times but the Indians could hide in the Everglades and continued to out do our troops who were sent after them. Becoming tired of so fruitless a war our troops procured one of their Chiefs and persuaded him (his name was Wild Cat) to go to the Indian Territory and see it and return and let his subjects know about the country and if he liked the new home in the west to persuade his subjects to remove there, and as he was promised separate Territory for the Seminoles by the Cherokees

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Indians they agreeing to divide theire lands with them until the United States would grant them a separate Territory, Wild Cat returned give his subjects a history of the west and prevailed on many of the Indians to remove to the Territory. Some of our troops committed a very ungenerous Act about this time, some of them sent a messenger to Oceola to come to their camp for they wanted to make a treaty of peace if possible or something looking to that desireable end for both sides were growing tired of War, this was early in year 1838. Oceola not expecting any traiterous designs, met in conference, the whites, as soon as he came some of the soldiers took hold of him and put handcuffs on him, he was sent to Charlestown South Carolina put in prison, he died that spring, possibly of a broken heart. ,deprived of his family then betrayed. If he had outlived his prision confinement he had had enough to make him an inveterate enemy to the whites., all his life. Most of the Indians were gotten up through friendly measures toward them than by fighting, for they could evade our troops in the everglades and long moss. The Seminoles were finally removed and given territories to themselves, the war ended with them in 1842, it lasted seven years costing the United States 40,000, 000 forty millions and removed less than 3 thousand Indians. You may ask what had the war to do with my fathers History. I will answer he lived in six miles of the Cherokees many of them were dissatisfied, did not want to go west, did not want to give up the Home and land of their fathers, for they are a very sensitive people, and when the Creeks commenced Hostilities in the spring of 1836 down the Chattahooche River near Columbus. The people was in great consternation comparisons being made up to check Indian invasion and go punish those who had come over the Chattahooche and killing all where they went, men, women and children, to bring the country into a state of defense was necessary while companys were being made to meet the Indians, Guinnett started a company quickly, Decalb another, that was soon on their way to the seat of war, uncle

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Harvey Flemming went in the Decalb company, he had moved before this from Hall to Decalb the company from Guinnett county soon engaged in battle with the Indians at Shepards Plantation Captain Garmany seems to have made a mistake by having his men to dismount and penetrate into the swamp where they believed the Indians were, they soon flanked and made a race for Garmanys Horses and was cutting them loose when the Captain with a few of his men got back, I just in time by hard fighting to save his horses, some of his man were chased by the Indians until dark Garmany lost 8 men in the skirmish, your Uncle George was born the same evening of the battle which was the 9th of June 1835. Garmany was attached to his name. Farmany was badly wounded, he returned at the time of his enlistment made up another company which my Father joined but were not called into service. The creeks soon became tired of war, came in and gave up and were sent west. Three of my Uncles went to the seminole War and I recollect what rejoicing when they returned, the Seminole war lasted seven years and cost our Government 40 million dollars, you see it affected the interest of every one and of course affected my Fathers interest besides the uneasiness and discomfort of the situation, I know I was afraid to work in the field out of sight of my father for fear the Indians would come and kill me, though I was very small at that time but father put his children to work early in life and accustomed us to it, until it seems now a part of our nature. I am satisfied now that children are never put to work too early in life. In 1838 the Cherokees were removed to their present home in the west. Wild Cat and all the Indians he could control were soon after transferred also. Oceola being capturedd it was thought that the war was about ended, but it was found that another war like Chief with a formable party was still making inroads on the settlements and prowling abouts the Forts causing trouble and some times skirmishing making attacks and than running to their deep marshes and hide. This Chiefs name was Billy Bowlegs there were other Chiefs who took part in the bloody balltes of the first

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two years of the war but I forget their names. The bloody battles were fought within the first two years of the war, Billy Bowlegs and his subjects were not removed until 1842, about the time of the removal of the Cherokees, there was found a formable organization of horse thieves, they stole a good horse that spring 1838 from my father when he was about 40 miles from home trying to collect some money that was due him, these parties had removed into the New Cherokee purchase, some of these new counties had been organized in 1832 and civil jurisdiction extended over them, but these bandits could hide out among the Indians until they were removed, after this they were more easly gotten hold of, my father came home on foot he then procured a horse and planted his corn then went back to hunt for his horse, fortunately he got on trail , come upon his horse and demanded his horse, the fellow told father he must go and get proof that the horse belonged to him, father told him if he put him to that trouble he would make him prove how he had come in pocession of him the fellow thought to be put to any trouble about it he would give him up, father come home with his horse and about this time two of my Uncles came by our house on their return from Florida. I recollect how we run from the field where we were at work and what Joy it gave my mother to know they had got back safe. My father would sometimes take his cotton crop to the Blue Ridge Mountains and exchange it for hides, tallow,beef, wax and peltries in general and sell out to the Tanneries, he also hauled flour to the Delonega Gold mines about sixty miles from where we lived. Delonega was the name for gold in the Cherokee Language it is now the name of the county site of Lumpkin county. The county was organized in 1838, that part of Habersham where Grand Father Barnes lived was cut off to Lumpkin county the year 1839, was one of the most plenteous years I have any recollection of in my life, the winter was rather dry, the spring continued dry having light rains sometimes, but not enough to stop our plows, the spring was mild giving us a fine fruit

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Year, I recollect of hearing my Grand Father saying that he never saw every kind of fruit so plentiful,all kinds of wild fruit, and berries, of all kinds in rich provisions, there was a great deal of Brandy made that year and drank freely at the corn shuckings but none of my kinfolks would have it about them, did not make nor have it at their gatherings, I have reason to bless God that I was raised by religious parents who taught us temperance in all things, and to be extreamly temperate in whiskey and Brandy. My father never had any fears to send my brother a and myself to a neighbors corn shucking where Brandy was plenty, he knew we would come home as sober as we had gone, because we was going to do as father wanted us to do, it was looked on as a disgrace to drink but little and too bad to get drunk. The next year was as sorry a crop as could be made out with we had floods of rain in the spring washing away fencing and preventing us from planting corn until late, the spring of 1840 was when Augusta was so innundated so with water destroying so much goods and property, I have often thought it was because people did not appreciate the great blessings God had so bountifully blessed them with the year before, the year 1839 continued dry until December, it became so dry the creeks and Rivers almost dryed up, my father had to go thirty five miles up the Chattahooche to get his corn and wheat ground, the stream had so nearly all failed the mills could not run, father had made an unusual amount of corn and wheat and the year 1840 was as poor for it.In 1841 the crops was still poor. Father removed to Cherokee county in the fall of this year and two years later moved on to the farm that my mother is living on now, she has now made 55 crops there, she is now in her 91st year but can get about pretty well. My Father settled where my mother lives in December 1843, there was a house and about 8 acres of land cleared on the place when my father bought it, we went into the River bottom to clearing land and in the course of a few years opened up a good farm, father than built a mill

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both saw and grist so when the great civil war broke out he was running a farm and grist and saw mill also blacksmith shop, seven men left his employ in the beginning of the war but only one returned, that was your Uncle Willie, Father was in favor of prosecuting the war to its bitter end but when it ended he attempted the situation adjusted himself to the situation was one of the first advocates to set up schools for the freed men, if they had to be citizens, make them as good ones as possible he had althrough life wanted to see their condition bettered, my grand father in Franklin while living there he had opened up a sunday school for the Negroes but soon after this or about this time a law was passed prohibiting the Negrom from receiving any education whatever, this law no doubt injured us instead of being a benefit, so my father althrough life had been taught to have sympathy for the poor africans cast upon our shores without their consent and often toiled in drudgery all their days with only their clothes and food for pay. That was often all his labor was worth, but some hard masters drove them to hard and did not feed and clothe as well as they ought to have done, my father expressed satisfaction at the progress of the colored race in their literary and sabbath school attainments, father had trouble over a damage suit made against him about raising the water on the river over his neighbors land his neighbor failing to prove that he was injured, father of course gaind the suit but it cost him trouble and some money, after the war he let his mills go down attended only to his farm, he had worked very hard injured himself so that in his latter years he suffered severly with piles urinary and kidney troubles, the last seven years of his life he suffered greater pain at times was intensely so he died the 9th of June 1878 nearly 74 years of age. It would not be doing justice to my grand mother without saying something about her father her mother dying before her recollection, as I have before stated her father served 3 years in the revolutionary war he then living in Pennsylvania, he was of Irish descent. The Irish are very determined characters in what ever they

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engage in so I suppose his 3 years was the time of his enlistment but ready to do service at any time when necessary, in 1784 or 5 he come to Georgia my grand mother used to tell us that she thought she could recollect of coming over the Rock Bridge in Virginia though she was only in her third year, the Rock Bridge spans a creek 215 feet above where a small stream is running through below it is one of natures curosities, he settled in Wilks county the Indians were troublesome on those days, they lived in a Fort for a good while to protect themselves from the Indians, grandmother used to tell us that her and other children would be playing outside the Fort and imagining they heard or saw Indians would run into the Fort for safety, after she grew up and married, her father Christopher Gardner and her husband Richard Saye removed to Franklin county where they raised their families, grandmother had 3 half brothers, Asa, John and Thomas, Asa in early life settled in Jasper county but I think emigrated to Arkansas Territory before it was admitted to the Union as a state, he was killed by one of his mules kicking him, his death occured in 1848, I have become acquainted with only one of his children, John after leaving Franklin moved I think to Henry county then to Cass which is now changed to Bartow county then went to Texas before it was annexed to the United States, but stopping where there was a great deal of sickness he retraced his steps to North Mississippi settled in Tippah county he had lost his wife while living in Bartow county Ga., his children some of them being nearly grown up he would not marry any more, he said he did not want to scatter his children which I think is often done by indiscreet widowers. He finally settled in Ittawamba county he lived a well to do farmer, his boys were blacksmiths they were thrifty men, John Gardner died in 1863 in the darkest days of the war around him. As I return to Texas I will stop at Corinth go down the Mobile and Ohio railroad to Baldwin to see if I can find any of your mothers people and if any of my great uncles children are living.

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I will give them a place in my narative because my early associations with them has been pleasant it was to Uncle John Gardners I went to in Mississippi in my young days when I first set out for myself, there in that section of country I became acquainted with your mother, your grand mother Ricks had just moved out there the same fall that I went to Uncles it was in the fall of 1857 but I have wondered from my subject. Thomas Gardner lived and died in Henry county Georgia of his family I know but little, I hear of some Gardners still in that county I suppose his sons or grandsons, grand mother had 8 halfsisters Rebecka married John Dodson he was a successful farmer settled first after leaving Franklin in Henery county then removed to Chattooga county after the last purchase of lands from the Indians, there he done well raising stock on the Lookout mountain, he also run a good farm in the valley one of his grand sons is a poet, you have the Book yet.One of Uncle Dodsons boys is at the head of the college at Oxford Alabama of them in general I know but little, Elithebeth married a William Gillispie, they remained in Franklin county raised their family there and have passed away one of their sons Thomas was killed the 17th of September 1862 in the hard fought battle of Antetiam or Sharpsburg where your uncle Edward Ricks was killed, another of the brothers married Aunt Caroline Barnes sister, Amanda Maize, they are living about the line of Hall and White counties, but of the Gillispie family further I know but little. Catherine married a John Underwood, they removed from Franklin to Guinnett county, from there they removed to Walker county before the Indians were removed, I played with my uncle Underwoods children in Guinnett county before he went to Walker county and I thought I would be afraid to go with them for fear the Indians killing me, they removed up there in the stormy days of the Seminole war but fortunately the Cherokees kept peaceably, those of the family I recollect was Thomas, Walker and William. I made Williams acquaintaince after we were grown, he came to Mississippi after I had settled there, though he did not stay long but returned to Georgia. I know nothing of them now only that

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the old people have passed away according to the course of nature. I suppose most of the children are gone before this time. Clarissa married Thomas Caruthers he also moved into Guinnett county he removed to Walker the same time with Underwood they settled on Peavine Creek or a valley of that name, Samuel Caruthers another of my playmates before leaving Guinnett county made a lawyer by profession and was practicing law I believe in Dalton Georgia when he took the fever and died he died in early life, with regard to his brothers and sisters I know nothing. Mary married a many by the name of Bowden he was very well educated for the times then taught school and was called a good teacher, a man of good intellect could have been a useful man but let Whiskey get the better of him, he became a regular drunkard after settling first in Henry county they removed to Guinnett settled about 8 miles from my grand father but Bowden being so unlike my grand father they did not visit nor have anything to do with each other, I called on uncle Lot Rowden twice while I was traveling for Dr. Barker collecting money and putting out his medecines for sale, the first evening I called there was a corn shucking in the neighborhood uncle and all of his boys that was still at home for some of then had grown up before this time and had left the parental roof they were all going to the shucking of course I must go too, we had as usual on such occasions a pleasant time the gentleman of the house treated us to a good supper and plenty of whiskey I think the whiskey has something to do with my old Great Uncles going for the boys would have been enough to have went old uncle Lot enjoyed the evening and night by getting pretty lively on whiskey, I suppose it was midnight when we got back to his house and he was so lively he did not let me sleep much that night, I called on him again about christmas one of his boys had come to see him and his son loving whiskey as well as his father, they were taking advantage of the christmas times as it is generally called were embibing very freely when I got there, they prevented Aunt Mary and me from getting a good night sleep they were too lively for us, it caused aunt polly as

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she was generally called a great deal of trouble to see her husband and sons drinking so excessevly the family have all passed away except one daughter, if I have heard correctly the daughter I think is doing well Nancey married a man by the Name of Brawner, they had removed from Guinnett county to Mississippi, one year before I went out there Uncle William Brawner was a hard working man but a poor hand to manage, Aunt Nancy died in 1858, Uncle married again but did not live agreeable with his last wife, none of uncles children did very well, Jussie Brawner his second soon died in the war in Virginia. Sally Inzer I should have said Sarah married a man by the name of Inzer, of them I know nothing. Jane Mrs. Stephenson the younger of my grandmothers half sisters I forgot her given name they lived in Carrol county Georgia I know nothing of the family they may have raised I can recollect of seeing all of my great Aunt except Mrs. Inzer I suppose I have seen her but I was small. I can recollect seeing my great grandfather Gardner he would visit my grandpa Sage and I would be running about over there sometimes he would tell me he would get him a bag and put me in it and carry me home with him that would scare me very much the idea of being carried off in a meal bag for I did not know there was any other sort of bags, frightened me very much and I was a little glad when I heard of his death, he died in 1836 people ought to be careful about teasing and scaring little children the recollections of my great grandfather was never pleasant long after his death. Now before I go further I must not neglect my mothers side of the house, religeously they were all Baptist, my mother was born in Wilks county North Carolina she was nearly grown when her father removed to East Tennessee into Rhea county but did not stay there but one year hearing of the lands to be drawn for they removed to Habersham county I don not know whether grandfather Barnes settled the land he drew or not I don't think he did he lived there over 20 years than moved up near the Blue Ridge in his old age. his children removed him to Cherokee county where 3 of his children were living. he lived near them until his death which occured

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in September 1854, both of my grandfathers were born in the stormy days of the Revolution, grandfather Barnes was born in 1779, my grandmothers were born in 1782. I am not right sure grandma Barnes was born in 1782 but think I am correct, they were born after the fighting had ceased but before the Independance of the Colonies were acknowledged and recognized by Great Brittian, my grandma Barnes was a Swain, I have no history of their views in the days of the Revolution nor the part they took for or against the Independence of the colonies, one of grandmas brothers commanded a company of volunteers from Wilks county North Carolina in the second war against Great Brittian and was in the bloody battle of the Horse Shoe against the Creek Indians or at the battle of New Orleans, I am not sure which, grand Ma's youngest brother emigrated to Mississippi, I once knew 3 of his boys they were a well to do family, my great uncle George Swain was a Baptist preacher of good standing some of my grandmas brothers emigrated to Indiana also some of grandpas removed there in early life of there decendance I have no account. In time of out great civil war some scouts captured some of the enemy they guarded their prisoners one night in my fathers yard, my mother learning they were from Ohio told them some of her uncles had moved to that state for some of them had stopped in Ohio, one of the prisoners told her he knew some people by the name of Swain, one of our guards says madam would you not feel bad if we have caught up some of your connection, there was not much talk between mother and the prisoners though mother was feeding them just as well as if they just had been fighting on our side, I suppose prisoners do not feel like talking much, my grandfather Barnes while living in North Carolina followed wagoning to Charleston, it seems now a long ways to haul produce 3 hundred miles then bring merchandise back, it seems that the people must have done with very little of the commodities and luxeries that we now enjoy. It took 4 weeks to make a trip, the feeding of a team and at times the road very bad rivers swolen bridges sometimes washed away so that the

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waggoner had any thing but a bed of roses and freights must have been enormous to have paid enough to have kept men wagoning all the year round grandma would have his corn planted for him if he was over his time, one time he started with a load of goods to the Duck river settlements in middle Tennessee I suppose a distance of 6 hundred miles it may not have been quite that far to have passed through the white settlements in western Georgia then through the Cherokee Nation which was near 2 hundred miles then down into the duck river settlements in middle Tennessee, he made the trip in 8 or 9 weeks, my mother says they were planting corn when he arrived home they dropped their tools and ran for joy to know that Pa had got home safe to think of such a trip now would be apalling, I have heard my grandpa talk of his trips, but I never heard him speak of carrying a weapon of any kind, I have no idea he ever carried a weapon not even when he was in the Indian Nation and yet we talk about religeon and morality being on the increase when now many cowardly young men carry pistols to church, there is a great increase in the religeous line but no increase of piety. My mother says her father owned a better farm in North Carolina than he ever owned in Georgia, I know his land in Habbersham had but thin soild he turned his attention to raising apples for market, I recollect father getting 2 loads of him , not the same season, one load he sold in Lawrenceville the other he took to Macon, Apples are not much cheaper now than when they were hauled in waggons through commodities and merchandise in general are more than 5 times as cheap as before the days of Railroad facilities, grandfather had bean settled 2 or 3 years in Habbersham before my father became acquainted with my mother, she had one older brother then herself, mother being the 3rd child, one had died when small, my mother was born in February 1808, Uncle John was born in 1804 or 5, not having their record I may not recollect correctly. I suppose my grandparents were married in 1801 or 2, Aunt Nancey was born in 1811, I think. I recollect the dates of Uncle Charles and George Charles was born in 1813 and uncle george was born in 1816 aunt Ruth I

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think in 1820, Uncle Solomon born in 1825 or 6 he was the youngest, I omitted to state the birth of Aunt Hannah she was born I suppose in 1818 unfortunately she was an idiot she died about 1858 or 9 Uncle John married a Miss Barker he was married in 1827 the day before he was married uncle Charles was sent to the mill with a turn of grain on one of their horses it was a common way of carrying grain in those days to mill, I suppose it must have been a windy day as he was returning home with his turn of meal or flour a tree fall across the road it was forked one fork fell in front of him the other falling at his back bruised him almost blocked, kk killed the horse Uncle lay there helpless until he was found he had to be brought home on a litter with bedding on it he suffered greatly for some time but finally recovered, Uncel John married while uncle Charles was lying crippled uncle John settled near grandpa, moved but once that was only a little up the creek but his first settlement remained apart of his farm for life. He made some money gold digging in time of the intrusion he was a great hand to raise fruit and vegetables, for the Delonega gold mines and as the town grew to importance it became his market, he raised a large family, his boys all served in the confederate army except one I think he served on detached service at or near home he lost one son in the war, cousin Pinkney was in some of the bloodiest engagements of the war. Uncle John lost his wife in 1856 I believe that was the year,he after the war married a miss Keneday by her he raised 2 children son and daughter, the son is living on the old homestead with his mother the daughter is married and do doing well, uncle died in 1887 or 8 being about 83 years of age, uncle Charles was married in December 1835 to a Miss Stover he also settled near his father, I think it was before he was married that he came near loosing his life in the Chestatee River, he had drove over to Delonega with oxen and wagon for the family often carried over some produce for sale, it rained while uncle was selling out his load which took him until near night to get through trading , he started not thinking of the river rising from the rain it must have rained more up the river than at town it

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was dark before he got to the river and he was so accustomed to fording day or night for they lived in 2 miles of the River he thoughtlessly drove in the oxen was soon swiming around as best they could, he washed off of his vehickle that he was in and could not swim a lick, he floundered around a little and fortunately got hold of some limbs that reached over in the stream some distance, he climed up the limbs until he got hald of the trunk of the tree and came down it in safety and on the home side of the river the oxen was also fortunate, they swam to the ford and got out. At another time he also came near loosing his life he and a man one day was proposing to swap horses Uncle sprang on the fellows horse the horse started at full speed uncle found he could not control him in the least, the horse soon ran against a tree and killed himself and came very near killing uncle, there never had been any one on his back before, it seemed the man wanted uncle to break him for him and so he did by breaking his head open, the man had the audacity to want uncle to pay him for the horse uncle had the audacity to tell him he would never do it, uncle did not get severely hurt but it is a wonder he had not been killed. Nothing more of intrest in uncle charles life occured until he enlisted as a soldier in the Seminole war he joined Captain Barkers company. Uncle George Barnes was made First Leutenant, uncle Charles was third Lieutenant, this was in the fall of 1837, the company was made to serve six months, they went down into the Florida swamps and scouting in the everglades and among the long moss was always exciting but probably the most trying time with uncle one night he with only one man with him was sent 30 miles after a surgeon to come with all speed for one of their men had been badly wounded by the Indians having six balls to extract from his bleeding body, uncle and his comrade started just at night it was 30 miles, they returned after serving their term, uncle Charles rode 75 miles the day he got home, he arrived about one or two oclock at night, of course it was the begining of the next day.In 1839 he removed to cherokee county, a great many

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panics took place about this time so much so that uncle failed to pay for the place he had bought, he struggled along until 1852 finding he, could not succeed he emigrated to Texas settled near Austin went into the stock raising business and farming and was doing well when one night returning from Austin home he was killed by some Robbers for his money, this was in the spring of 1871, his widow is still living on the farm uncle owned when he was murdered, he raised 3 boys and several daughters 2 of the boys are dead the living one is on his mothers farm taking care of her, the daughters are married and living around that country. Uncle George Barnes grew up with uncle Charles, their association together was always very pleasant until uncle Charles removed to Texas, they never met any more. Uncle George was larg enough to dig gold also in time of the intrusion was but 12 years old but made a pretty good hand, I have heard my mother say that when they were panning their gold away from their long tom for that was the name of their wooden trough set on rocks to separate the rocks and gravel from the fine sand and gold, when uncle George would begin to see the yellow shining gold in the pan he would throw or hold his tounge to the corner of his mouth and work with greate activity. Grandpa put him to shearing sheep one day and as he had never done such work he was progressing slow, father happened to go over on some business and saw that my uncle was making poor speed he set in to helping him, after awhile they finished the job, came down to the house he told his mother he was done, she was surprised at his fast work he said he had got through with what little brother william had hope him uncle had a pleasant way of joking for or against himself. Father no doubt had sheared 2 to his one or maybe more. Uncle was agreat hand to work with horses, he loved a fine horse when he would procure one he would pamper him up too much, he lost one by running away with the plow and jerking himself down over a sharp stump, he had him in too fine condition to have risked him in the plough until he had used his other ways and got him accustomed to work, uncle continued to work on the farm with

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