SO...........

WHAT WENT WRONG ?

 

As of now I can't answer that question precisely, because I've not found any info that sums it all up or even cites, who did what to whom and whether all charges were ever filed etc. Tangiers was a multi state corporation with two different names. There was a suit filed that involved Tangier's trustee U.S. Senator Hughes. Outcome unknown by me. And there was a sad case that involved Fred's ex wife threatning to shoot him.

In 1941 Miss Eugenie Smith wound up re selling some 1000 acres of Tangier land that reverted back to her presumbably in foreclosure. The buyer Patrick J. Handley (?) of NY City was a speculator. And when the smoke finally cleared after second world war, Walter T. Shirley wound up developing Tangiers and the rest of the woods he first saw out there during the first world war, much of it along the lines of F. J. Quimby's original vision. Originally W. T. called it "Mastic Acres" and by 1954 it would be officially known as Shirley, Long Island "A nice place to live" The articles I present here should help you see through some of the smoke, mirrors and weeds that once upon a time was called Tangier.

 

Can you say ..... BACKGROUND CHECK ?

 

If any of the investors or the N.Y. Stock Exchange did bother back then, they would of found that Frederick J. Quimby was no stranger to the courts. Lawsuits were piling up as early as 1904 against the Frederick J. Quimby Company. And they were often for very small amounts under $100.00. Even during the grand formal opening, Tangiers Manor & Tangier Development Corporation was being sued for various amounts. Translation somebody didn't like to pay bills.

One interesting side note was the appearance of Woodlands On The Bay on many maps. I've not yet been able to determine who started this development, that sat between Johns Neck Creek and where the new town of Mastic Beach would arise 20 years later. Was Woodlands a sub development of Tangiers? If it was, Quimby never publicized it? It may of been the result of whomever purchased land from the Smith's in the 1907. I do know that by 1922 Woodlands was in the hands August and A. O. Eisner of a real estate company named Patchogue Holding Corp. It's 250 acres was traded off as partial payment towards a New York City apartment house.The Eisners got $100,000.00 for it. Woodlands as shown on the map had a yacht basin in it . Entrance to the development by land was off of Neighborhood Road. If the roads shown on it's map were ever actually cut in the woods grew back. This area is where Walter T. Shirley first started building his canal homes in the 1950's.

As the articles about Tangier got smaller, most always mentioned that not much had developed yet out there. The bridge that did get built was a "temporary" wooden one that got destroyed by the ice. The one hotel became a WWI soldiers rest home. It was destroyed in the hurricane of 1938.

photo: Original Smith Pt. Bridge & Hedges Hotel courtesy of Brookhaven Town Historian appears in "The History Of Mastic Beach" by Janice Schaefer

The above NY Times article was part of a much larger 1911 full page piece on Long Island real estate. Then came the lawsuits, lots of them starting as early as April 1911. Many were for small amounts like these.

A company that was reportedly going to spend 5 million on developing should not of even felt a 5 grand suit.

 

Then came re financing for over 2 million in 1912, to Virginia Trust Co. It should be noted that Quimby had a residence in Roanoke, Va. Then by 1913 he was filing for bankruptcy................

NY Times 1915

Selling off land to raise cash for?? Notice it is talking about the companys holdings in the past tense.

Postscript: Click the underlined words to read more about each case

Sorry I Didn't Catch The Name.......WAS IT QUINBY OR QUIMBY?

I am just now learning that Frederick J. Quimby or Quinby was cited by both names sort of like Tangiers Manor & Tangier Development. Quimby may be the typo that he seemed to use or the press did in equal amounts. Searching archives with Frederick J. or F. J. and interchanging the M & N seems to turn up the same person and the same troubles. Stay Tuned

In 1913 Frederick J. Quimby was living in Roanoke Va. His lawyer said Mr. Quimby was "very ill" and unable to appear in court. Senator Hughes was being sued to return $100,000.00 in Tangiers Bonds, and the lawyers were taking their courthouse fight outside and threatening to present "fisticuffs" instead of subpoenas. You can read about their fight here.

By 1915 F. J. Quimby apparently recovered and Mary E. Quimby, who had been divorced from Fred for fifteen years was arrested for threatening to expose his "prior record" and threatening to get a gun and shoot him.

In 1920, a Rose Quinby ( wife, widow, daughter?) who did not give her age, is listed in the federal census as living in Tangiers with two servants. The Smith's are her closest neighbors and I presume she is living in what would soon become the Tolfree Estate and eventually the Cutro's Island View Manor House & Smith Point Motel

 

QUINBY OR QUIMBY?

TANGIER MANOR MAPS & PLANS

 

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