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The Grand Opening!
The birth of the Vinyl Web Stop on the Web was
the 22. June 1996 and the 18. August it was officially
announced. As these are my first web pages published
ever, I suppose parts of them will be rewritten heavily
the next months as a result of my own experience and your
feedback. Don't hesitate to send
me critics and/or suggestions for a better site.
What is the Vinyl Web Stop?
First I would like to point out that the
Vinyl Web Stop is a non commercial site, and I have
no whatsoever connection with the companies / privates
that are included in my links. My hope is that this site
could be your place to go when you're looking for
information, records, friends, whatever related to vinyl
records. I bring you this service mostly because I needed
a project to learn web authoring, and as I'm a collector
myself, this felt like an obvious choice (hmm...., maybe
it isn't such a good idea to give away all my sources...
.
Which companies are linked?
The companies and private persons
presented here have all a presence on the web which with
a few exceptions means they display their stock (or part
of it) in www pages, and naturally this is made up of
vinyl records (or partly). This includes both companies
selling new vinyl only and the more common collector
shops with mostly used stuff. Record labels are not
included unless they also are selling other labels
records.
How to read the Vinyl Web Links.
First of all I would like apologize that
here aren't any search-form. I hope to find a solution to
this someday. It is however very easy to use your own
browser's search (Edit & Find on most). Okay, let's
take a look at how the Vinyl Web Links are presented.
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- The company name is a hyperlink to the site
described. Usually this is to the front page.
Some companies deals with other things than vinyl
records as well, so make sure you don't get
astray and order CD's instead :-)
- The next field shows the average amount
of records in stock. However this doesn't mean
that all records are available through theirs web
site, and it doesn't tell if it is 1000 x 1 or 1
x 1000. It does however tell you a little about
the ability to serve your want lists.
- After the engaging :-) description you'll find
"Mail" and a mailto
hyperlink (if they have any). Don't use this to
send them want lists unless you have checked at
the site that they accept such!! Not all do, and
if it is misused, I suppose I will be told to
remove it. Always check at the site first and if
you still have some questions, then try it. Keep
it short!
- The flag
tells you to which country you go (if some of the
USA links actually are Canadian, then please
excuse and let me
know)
- Although it's a VISA
card, it
only shows that this site does accept credit
card(s). It seems like Mastercard and Visa are
the most common ones, but you have to find out
for yourself. Yes; I should have had some
sponsorship from Visa for doing this...
usually means download and here it means
that you can download a zipped (mostly) catalog
for off-line reading. Very useful if you want to
read through thoroughly and you usually get
access to more than displayed on the web site.
- Some companies send their lists through mail
, too. I'm a
lazy person, so this is a service I find very
useful. If you're in doubt; I don't refer to
snail mail!
- Have you checked the news
today? These
companies can be found at the "marketplace" newsgroup with lists every now
and then. If you want to reply to an ad at a news
group; don't forget to mail a personal answer
instead of replying to the newsgroup! It looks
silly...
- If the web site has thousands of records, it's almost a necessity to
be able to type in and search
for
what you are looking for. I suppose this will
become more and more usual, but don't forget that
you can search through a page with your browser's
Edit & Find (or equivalent) as an
alternative.
- Okay, you've found a record you would like to buy. Now
what. The elegant way is to make a mouseclick to
put it in the shopping cart
, and go
looking for other goodies. The usual way is to
write down a code, band, album, price etc. on
paper and then type them into a mail or fax (try
cut & paste instead; ctrl+ins and then
shift+ins)
- Some of the sites that accept credit card(s)
also have a feature called secure pages
.
This means that the information given on such
pages are encrypted when sent through the web. To
my knowledge this is as safe as dealing with
credit cards in general, but if there isn't a
secure order page, always call or fax instead!!
There are however other ways of solving this
problem, such as First Virtual, Cybercash, Trade Safe or simply that the company register
your card number (phone it once).
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Some information I've been given from the companies
themselves (thank you!) and some I've collected myself.
I've also visited all the sites, but please remember that
I'm doing this in my spear time, so I can't possibly
check all sites for in detail information and errors on a
regular basis. I therefor need your help (both companies
and collectors)! Mail me
or use the form
if you find any errors (and I'm afraid you will...), if
any links are dead, if you've come across a company that
should have been included etc.
Trade Safe
Although most trading over the net goes smoothly, we
must be aware of that some jerks are here simply to fraud
you. When dealing with the wellknown companies, you are
quite safe (unless they are wellknown for frauding :-)
The problem surface when you're going to deal with some
minor companies /private collectors. By all means; I'm
sure 99 % of these are honest and gives you a better
service (and lower price?) than the more unpersonal big
companies. The problem is you can't tell for sure. For
the same reason I can't be held responsible for the
companies/privates in my Vinyl Web
Links. So, what can be done?
- If you have any bad experience with a company
from the Vinyl Web Links, please report it to me. I
will then discuss the matter with the other part.
If things are sorted out, I'll do nothing. If I'm
in doubt, I'll either remove the link or wait for
another report (depends on the degree of
doubtfulness). If I'm sure there was a fraud
going on, I will remove the link and let you know
in the Vinyl
Web Forum. I believe this is a fair way of
doing it for both sellers and buyers.
- When dealing with unknown, small
companies/privates, you shouldn't send cash in
advance. The problem is however that most sellers
don't send anything without advance payment
(after all this fraud problem is even greater for
them!). One solution is COD, but many companies
don't accept this (the parcels are often not
collected and returned from the postoffice after
months of waiting). The solution could be Trade Safe. For a small fee
you get exactly that; a safe trade. Take a look,
and give it a try the next time you are going to
spend a lot of $$$$, and please report your
experience with this at the Vinyl Web Forum (don't expect
to be able to use this at the big companies that
accept credit cards, though)
- Two different and secure alternatives are First
Virtual and Cybercash,
but in these cases the seller must support these
services with pre-installed software. However I
expect these services to be more interesting for
the professionals than Trade Safe.
Currency exchange rates
For those of you who are going to deal with someone
abroad, it could be nice to know how much this megamint
copy of the ultra rare record you've been looking for all
your life, actually cost in your own currency. No
problem! Just hyperlink yourself to Xenon Labs (US
or Sweden), type in the amount, foreign
currency, your currency and voila (shit; t h a t much!).
Remember though that exchange rates can change
dramatically without any warning and that you always get
the rate at the time of transaction.
Postage rates
After having translated foreign currency into your own
(when applicable), don't forget to calculate the postage
into your total (if you're going to use airmail from
abroad, it might after all be cheaper to buy an expansive
copy at your local store). Many sellers let you know the
postage in advance, but if you need to find out yourself,
then enjoy.
Please let me know of other countries postage rates on
the web!
Meta searchers
Wouldn't it be nice to simply type into a searchbox
what you're looking for, click on GO and watch the script
search through the entire stock to every vendor on the
web? Well, maybe not if you're looking for the current
no. 1 single, but if you're looking for something special
(as we collectors always do), this must be great. You
might think that this is a distant future and you're
probably right, but if you want a glimpse of it, check
out these:
- It seems like the Bargain
Finder mostly search through CD databases,
but give it a try. Boycott the companies that
block'em out!
- At GEMM
you'll get loads of vinyl plus all kinds of
related stuff like other types of collectibles
and information. A great idea and it's very easy
to use.
Some final links
- Let's face it; most vinyl shops aren't on the
web. Paul has done something with this and
compilated an amazing worldwide list of independent
CD/tape/record stores (i.e. not necessarily
vinyl). Check out this one before going on your
holidays! Don't forget to help him
with "completing" the list. He also
seems to be a competitor to my web links soon
(best of luck!).
- A serious collector should organize his/her
collection in one way or another. As you are
visiting me here on the web, I assume you are the
proud owner of a PC/Mac or whatever. If you
already has got a program for cataloging your
records, then fine. Otherwise you might want to
take a look at Recording Master for Windows.
If you know of any better programs or some for
Mac, let me know!
- I haven't tried the Internet Music Wantlist
myself, but it seems like a good idea. For the
moment it is down, but keep checking.
- I'm not sure if any of my Vinyl Web Links
includes sites selling 78 rpm's, but here is the 78rpm
Homepage for those into this. Maybe you're
also interested in gramophones?
Okay, that's all for now. I hope you enjoyed your
stay! Feel free to visit my homepage
for non-musical information and links.
The Vinyl Web Stop is Trademark
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