The Family of Dummer
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A brief outline by Michael Dummer Dummer families seem to have originated independently in two areas of the world: in England and in Germany. It is extremely unlikely that there was ever a link between the two. This web site is concerned with the Dummer families whose origins lie in England. Today those families have spread beyond the shores of the United Kingdom and members are to be found in North America, Australia, New Zealand, mainland Europe, and elsewhere. |
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BEGINNINGS. THE VILLAGE. THE CHURCH The earliest Dummers took their family name from the village of Dummer in north Hampshire. The name of the village is derived from Dun (meaning hill) and Mer (lake or pond). A hill there certainly is, in the shape of Dummer Down, but what form the water took is uncertain, for there is no lake or pond there today. It is likely that there was once a dew-pond on the down.
Dummer is a small village just off the busy M3 Motorway just where it is joined by the A30 trunk road. The village, with its
thatched cottages and ancient church, has somehow managed to stay fairly unspoilt. The general air is that of a prosperous community.
The church dates back to around 1200, not many years after William the Conqueror seized the English throne, and about the time that he
decreed that a great survey be made of his new kingdom - the Domesday Survey. It is about this time too that we first come across the Dummer family.
Dummer church is lucky to have escaped rebuilding during the Victorian era and therefore retains many of the historic features from past centuries.
The chancel and arch date from the late 12th century, as does the rood canopy. The gallery dates from the time of Charles ll. THE DUMMER GROUPS Dummers were originally centred in three main areas: Hampshire, Wiltshire, and Sussex. We do not yet know if they were all from a
commom origin. The adoption of DNA testing in family history in future will bring some very interesting resuts. By testing living people known to be
from each of the groups it may be possible to find the links, although it should always be born in mind that Grannie may not have been telling the truth
about the father of her son! Perhaps even testing of identified remains of the very earliest Dummers may be permitted. Time will tell. |
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THE DUMMERS OF DUMMER AND PENDOMER The Dummers of Dummer form the earliest of the main groups. As was the custom, the principal landowner took the name of the village as an
identity for himself and his family. These Lords of the Manor of Dummer flourished from the beginning of the 12th century until the last of
the line died without living offspring at the end of the 16th century. His memorial can still be seen beside the altar of Dummer church.
Through marriage, they also had a presence in Somerset for 200 years, bequeathing the family name to the villages of Pendomer and Chilthorne Domer. |
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The earliest peple bearing the name Dummer were from the village of that name, and they bore it in the form de Dummer (or de Dumer/Dommer/Domer), e.g. Geoffrey de Dummer- Geoffrey of or from Dummer - to distinguish themselves from other people of the same first name. In due course the use of "de" was dropped. Thus the Lords of the Manor of Dummer assumed the name of the village shortly after the Norman Conquest (1066) and their descendants continued to use the name for the next five and a half centuries until the line died out. Strictly speaking,during most of this time they were not Dummers at all, since in the early 1300s heiress Ellen Dummer was an only child and when she married Sir Nicholas Atmore he assumed her surname. Their children were Atmore alias Dummer, or vice versa. But we are chronicling a surname here, and are not restricted to the male lines.
Early on, one of the Dummers of Dummer went off and married Agnes from Penne in Somerset. The village of their abode there became known as Pendomer,
and a nearby village became Chilthorne Domer. Pendomer these days is still a tiny hamlet at the end of a long lane, but in the church there the
well-preserved stone figure of Sir John de Dommer, clad in chain mail with the Dummer arms shown on his breast and shield, lies on his tomb, where he has lain for
over 700 years. The well-worn effigy of his father William is tucked away behind a chair in the chancel at Chilthorne Domer. |
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THE PYLDREN DUMMERS
Before the Dummers of Dummer died out in 1593, other Dummers are recorded only a few miles from Dummer village, probably descended from a branch
of the more ancient family.One of them, a female Dummer, married Richard Pyldren, and their descendants used the name Dummer in preference to
their father's original name. These "Pyldren" Dummers truly prospered, some moving up the social scale from farmers to merchants, lawyers and
Gentlemen. They came to amass huge holdings of land in Hampshire and, by virtue of their wealth, exerted considerable influence in the region.
Some held Office of State and served as Members of Parliament. One of their number was a founding father of Massachusetts. Their descendants
are to be found in North America, Australia and elsewhere. Overall, this was the most successful branch of the family, and certainly the best known.
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PYLDREN alias DUMMER
Richard Pyldren married Matilda (or Maud) Dummer sometime before 1523. Richard was a freeholder at Overton, just 5 miles west of Dummer village,
and 22 miles north of Southampton. Matilda was probably the heiress oof John Dummer, the local representative of the King at Overton.
Richard variously used either Pyldren or Dummer as his surname, as did his children, but subsequent generations dropped the Pyldren name.
The family initially lived at Owslebury, later at Durley. We know of five grandchildren of Richard and Matilda, of which Thomas was the one
who continued the mainstream of the family. Thomas married Joane, held land at Bishopstoke and at Swaythling village in North Stoneham parish,
dying before 1626, but it was four of his children (John, Richard, Thomas and Stephen) who were to make Dummer a name to be reckoned with.
John Dummer was probably the eldest son of Thomas and Joane. His descendants continued to increase the family wealth, notably at law.
Edmund (born 1663) was appointed Clerk of the Great Wardrobe, one of those archaic positions at the Sovereign's court which were later abolished.
His brother Thomas became Deputy Keeper of the Great Wardrobe. The son of the latter Thomas, Thomas Lee Dummer, was a colourful character.
He bought Cranbury Park and Mansion near Winchester, and wanting something to adorn his new park, he purchased the Winchester City Cross from
the City Fathers, but the good citizens of the town drove his workmen away, and he had to make do with a plaster replica which the rain washed away.
But the lack of male heirs to the vast estates was to cause bitter strife between cousins, and as a result the estates passed out of the
Dummer family.
Richard Dummer, also a son of Thomas and Joane, is believed to have made his fortune as a trader, operating out of the port of Southampton.
He was a Puritan, which at times was contrary to the Established Church and the monarch. He emigrated to the Massachusetts Bay Colony, becoming
a founding father there, setting up a stock company, acquiring estates, and establishing a milling business. His eldest son was slain by Indians.
Another of his sons was the America's first American-born silversmith. His grandson William was Governor of Boston and instrumental in bringing to an end
the Indian Wars. William was childless, and he bequeathed his estates to trustees for the establishment of what became in 1763 Dummer Academy,
the first school of its kind in the Province.
A third son of Thommas and Joane was Thomas Dummer who inherited Chickenhall Farm or estate and passed it on to his son, also Thomas.
The latter's son was one of the most notable members of the Dummer family. Edmund became the Surveyor of the Navy and was responsible for setting
up Devonport Dockyard, and undertaking improvements at Portsmouth. His Survey of the South Coast is a valuable and well-known historic document.
Edmund was later discharged from the post after some murky goings-on, whereupon he set up the pioneering Packet Boat service to the West Indies.
Misfortune attended him again however and he died a bankrupt. Lack of heirs was again to result in the estates passing out of the family.
Stephen Dummer was another son of Thomas and Joane. He inherited Middle Street and Hole Farms in Bishopstoke. He married Alice Archer then,
like his brother Richard, emigrated to New England, but returned to Bishopstoke a few years later. Middlestreet Farm seems to have passed out of
the family, but Hole (later Foxhole) Farm remained until the mid-nineteenth century. Stephen's line was the one that survived in Great Britain,
and it is from Stephen that today's "Pyldren" Dummers there are descended. When Stephen's g-g-g-grandson, also Stephen, died in 1849 Foxhole
farm was sold and the money divided between his sons. The last of the Pylden Dummer estates had gone. The three sons went their separate ways,
the eldest, Stephen, became a tea dealer whose wife and daughter set up a private school in London and whose son became a surgeon. The next son
Samuel, emigrated to Australia with his children, where their descendants flourished. The youngest son, William Chamberlayne, stayed in the area
as a postmaster, and was in charge of the little Independant Chapel that his father had been instrumental in founding. William Chamberlayne's
descendants still live in the area.
One Pyldren Dummer who should be mentioned is Jane, daughter of Stephen and Alice Archer. She emigrated with her parents to New England and
stayed there, marrying Henry Sewall. Their son Samuel Sewall was to become Chief Justice of the new nation.
One of the Pyldren Dummers appears in Shipley, Sussex, at the end of the 16th century. John Dummer married Mary Michell there and he and his son
John lived at the farm that was to become known as Dummer's Farm. Their old barn still stood there until recently. Unlike the other Pyldren
Dummers, they were Roman Catholics, which may account for the distance between them and their Puritan cousins.
Dummer's Farm Barn THE SUSSEX DUMMERS
We can trace the Sussex Dummers back to the 1690s when John and Mary Dummer had their children baptised at the little curch in the village of
Heyshott, just north of the South Downs. John and most of his descendants were agricultural labourers working the fields around the market
town of Midhurst for two or more centuries, in contrast to the Pyldren Dummers with whom they later corresponded. The great influence in the
area was the Cowdray Estate, the great mansion at Cowdray being the home of the Montagues. The latter kept the Roman Catholic faith alive
during the difficult years of religious turmoil, and their workers followed suit. In spite of the hardship of their lives, the Sussex Dummers
became the most prolific of the Dummer families. Their descendants have spread from Sussex throughout the country and beyond, including
Australia and the USA.
James Dummer, born 1793, became a miller and pursued his trade at various mills around Midhurst. It seems that he was the first of the line
to start tracing his ancestors. He corresponded with Stephen Dummer of Foxhole Farm at Bishopstoke with a view to trying to win back into the
Dummer family some of the estates that they claimed had wrongly passed from the family. He studied the complicated wills of the Pyldren
Dummers and produced a long and detailed paper to justify the claims, demonstrating a surprising level of education for somebody of the rural
class. His brother William took a more practical course and proceeded to dig up the front lawn of the former Dummer mansion at Cranbury Park
in an attempt to get himself arrested, so that he could prove his claim in a court of law - without success!
After James' death his son Charles carried on the campaign, with similar lack of success. Charles, a millwright, married Julie Isaline
Susanne Marie Martin from Switzerland. The hopeless situation in agriculture in the mid-nineteenth century caused Charles to take his young
wife and parents to Portsmouth where he worked as a shipwright in the Royal Dockyard. One of his sons became another Australian immigrant.
When Charles died in 1917 all the family history papers went into storage for 50 years until they were passed to the present author in 1960.
Forty-five years of further research has resulted in the present one-name study of the Dummer families. THE LACOCK DUMMERS
THE WELSH DUMMERS
John Dummer appears at Margam, near Port Talbot in Wales in 1801. He was almost certainly a Lacock Dummer. The Talbot family of Lacock
had been instrumental in opening up the coal mines in the region, and to support the industry it had created the port which bears its name.
They would naturally try to recruit labour from the rural workers on their estates in Wiltshire, although John Dummer himself did not become a miner.
Most of his descendants did work in the mines however, or in the steelworks or tinplate works. Hard work, dirty work, and most of all, dangerous
work, but in spite of this the Welsh Dummers multiplied such that they have become one of the largest Dummer groups. Over the years the Welsh
Dummers have spread beyond the borders of Wales, some back to England, thereby losing the accent their ancestors had picked up many generations previous, and
others to America and Australia like the other branches.
OTHER DUMMERS
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THE ONE-NAME STUDY OF THE DUMMER FAMILY Book and CD THE STUDY The author is the registered member of The Guild of One-Name Studies for the family of Dummer. He has researched Dummer family history for over 40 years. Virtually all his findings have now been made available as a comprehensive book - The Family of Dummer, by Michael Dummer, Seventh Edition June 2005. THE BOOK The book consists of 360 A4 size pages: 111 pages of descriptive text, 150 photographs, transcripts of important wills, facsimile copies of important nineteenth century studies, family album, other relevant documents, a 55 page listing of all the entries of Dummers in the General Record Office Index of Births, Marriages and Deaths from 1837 until the mid-twentieth century, a list of all sources used in the study, and an index of persons. WHERE TO SEE IT Printed copies of the book can be consulted at a number of record offices and libraries, including the British Library, the Library of Congress at Washington, the Library of the Genealogical Society of Utah at Salt Lake City, the Library of the Society of Genealogists at London, Hampshire Record Office at Winchester, Southampton Archives at the Guildhall Southampton, Winchester Local Studies Library, West Sussex Record Office at Chichester, the libraries of the Hampshire Genealogical Society, the Sussex Family History Society and the Guild of One-Name Studies. Printed copies of the book are not available for purchase. THE COMPACT DISC ![]() www.hants.org.uk/allsaintschurchdummer The author is also prepared to try to answer questions on Dummer family history. Email him by keying in the address below (omitting the gap in the word dummer in the address which has been put there in an attempt to avoid spam). dum mer@one-name.org Back to Top |
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DUMMER HERALDRY ![]() Examples of the arms borne by the old family of Dummer can be seen at Dummer village church and Pendomer church. At Dummer church the Arms are quartered with those of the Atmore family on the brass plate to the left of the altar. At Pendomer the recumbant figure of sir John de Dummer has the arms on his breast. The arms are described as "Azure, a golden crescent between 6 billets, 3,2,1, or". A golden crescent between golden rectangles on a blue background.
The "Pyldren" Dummers used different arms: "Azure, 3 fleur de lis or, on a chief of the second a demi-lion of the first". Whether the arms came from the Pyldren side or the Dummer side of the family is not known. The arms were originally used unofficially, but at the height of the family's prosperity 3 members sought permission to have their use regularised by the Earl Marshall, which was granted.
A little later they also requested approval to use the original arms of the Dummers of Dummer, from whom they claimed descent,
however, they were only permitted to use a variant, namely: "Gules, 9 billetts argent, 4,3,2, and a bezant in the base". |