Errors and Omissions

NCRS® 1963 and 1964 Technical Manual and Judging Guide

For 1963 Corvette and 1964 Corvette Judging

This page was for collecting the errors and omissions in the current National Corvettes Restorer Society® 1963
and 1964 Technical Manual and Judging Guide. In February 2006, several NCRS® members on the NCRS
Technical Discussion Board were discussing the errors that have been found and not accounted for in the 1963
and 1964 Judging Manual.  In an effort to collect those errors and omissions so that the Judging Manual may be
updated, this page was created. 

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL NCRS PAGE.

This page was formed by members for members to improve the judging manual by collecting data and
to assist the Team Leader.


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Errors in the 1963 & 1964 Technical Manual & Judging Guide


Page Original Information New Information Reason Submitted By Date
  '63 Seat Bracket Pinch Welt Prior revisions of the JG said they were black regardless of carpet color while the current JG states they match the interior/carpet color. 

Data indicates that there were cars with color pinch welts and cars with black pinch welt.

Error and additional information.   2/24/06
41, 42

Auxiliary Hardtop, Option C07 (if equipped)

 

Current Text, pages 41 and 42:

 

            1963 models, after approximately VIN 5,000 and 1964 models until approximately VIN 15,000 have a notch cut in the bottom of the hardtop to give greater clearance above the door. For Judging purposes, those models can be identified by the raised areas in the outer door panel where the door handle is attached. A redesigned outer door panel was introduced in 1964 at approximately VIN 15,000 which eliminates the interference problem with the hardtop. Models with door that do not have the raised area at the door handle should not have a notch in the hardtop.  

Revised Text Proposed:

The Auxiliary Hardtop for 1963-1964 models had three distinct designs.

Design One: At the startup of 1963 production the auxiliary hardtop had a notch cut in the bottom, each side, to give greater clearance above the door. This design was present until approximately March 1963.

Design Two: For cars built in approximately April, May and June 1963 the notch in the auxiliary hardtop is not present.

Design Three: For cars built approximately near the end of June 1963 until the end of 1963 production and all 1964 production the notch in the auxiliary hardtop is not present and rear window reinforcing brackets are present at the upper center and lower center of the rear Plexiglas.

Additional Information "Harry Sadlock" <hsadlock &@& comcast.net> 2/24/06
41, 42 Auxiliary Hardtop, Option C07 (if equipped)  

Current Text, pages 41 and 42:  

Corvette 15322 has the 3rd design hardtop.  Engine build date was May 8, 1963.  I can't get to the car right now to look, but as best I can remember the car was built on May 14, 1963.  If needed I could take a picture of the date code on the Plexiglas if that would be useful. Additional Information "USA1 Classics" <usa1classics &@&  hotmail.com>  2/25/06
41, 42 Auxiliary Hardtop, Option C07 (if equipped)  

Current Text, pages 41 and 42:  

Like to CONFIRM that my 64 hard top has no notch and does have the raised door handle, its a March 64 vet. Thanks for your good work. Additional Information "Alan D" <akc &@& gis.net> 3/16/06
136 Expansion Tank Cap

Says that from August 1963 throughout the 1964 model year a circle surrounded the 307 13#. 

I've owned my 64 since the summer of 1967 and feel that 90+% of parts on it are original.  I even kept the old parts when they needed to be replaced.  Here are two items that I believe are errors.

I have no such circle.

Error and additional information. Allan <akdselectman &@& hotmail.com> 2/27/06
102 L84 Fuel Injection

Claims that the square 90 degree connector is typically stamped with "GM" in multiple locations.

 I've owned my 64 since the summer of 1967 and feel that 90+% of parts on it are original.  I even kept the old parts when they needed to be replaced.  Here are two items that I believe are errors.

Mine is stamped "P" in only one location.  My 1963 unit (purchased in 1972) has the same "P".  Talked to a person who's into FI restoration work and he said it's a "P".  If you desire I can make a trip to a friends house to look at his bigdog house unit - since his car has not moved since the mid 70's and he never had any interest in restoration.

I have also pointed out that the fitting on the 64/65 FI doghouse that connects to the front oil breather does have a "P" on it - where the TI&JG calls for only GM marks. At an NCRS Northeast Chapter tech session on Sat (4/8) and talked to member who tracks 64/65 FI units. When I asked the question - he said its a P without even thinking about it.

Error and additional information. Allan <akdselectman &@& hotmail.com> 2/27/06
74 Spare Tire Storage

Page74, section19

Manual states that part numbers and logo's are not on the cover or housing. A search has shown that multiple people have found that the logo, oval with MFG inside it, and part number 19154 housing and 19156 cover do exist.

At present on the NCRS site a fellow is looking for a correct tub for his 63 and has not found one without markings! It would appear that he will never find an original since they all have markings. Error and additional information. "Alan D" <akc &@& gis.net> 4/9/06
43 Carpets

63-64 TI/JG third edition section 13, page 43

Relative to the cutting of carpet to secure seat runner to. "On 1963 and early 1964 (VIN unknown), the use of . . . . . . . . . has not been observed."

This is exactly how my March 64 carpets were cut! Why would the writer spend the time to describe how the carpet was cut on early cars and then say "has NOT been." It seems to me that such a treatment was or has been seen on early models. Is the NOT a typo??? Error and additional information. "Alan D" <akc &@& gis.net> 5/9/06
46 Signal Flasher

Page 46 of 63/64 Judging Manual

"Paper shield is attached to one of the flasher's terminals."

Should read attached across the flasher's terminals. This is the correct electrical method and shown such in the 1964 Corvette Shop Manual page 13-3 and appears that way on my 64. Error and additional information. "Alan D" <akc &@& gis.net> 5/17/06
121 TM, 4th Edition, section 13, page 121, refers to "on 1964 springs the top two leaves are flat." This should read "top three are flat." Referring to "There isn't a liner between the top two leaves",

Referring to "The rear spring is painted semi-gloss light gray" implies that the spring is completely painted.

This should read "There is not a liner between the 6th and 7th leaves as counted from bottom to top, including the bottom leaf."

 This paint was very tough and still adheres close to as originally applied. In the two 1964 9-leaf springs I've taken apart, the paint is primarily on only one side, toward the center, and only slopped over the sides. Suggest that "partially painted" be added.

Error and additional information. Dixon Green  green4347 &@& aol.com   9/4/06
108 TM, 4th Edition, section 5, page 108, under Fan, Air Conditioned, refers to "seven bladed fan, part number 5853945". The 1964 AIM shows this part as 5853943. Most believe that this is also incorrect and should have read 3853943. Error and additional information. Dixon Green  green4347 &@& aol.com   9/4/06
           
           
           
           

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A Caution on Using the Technical Manual and Judging Guide

Each TMJG is compiled by the teams from the information gathered through various means. However, they are not
without error. Production cars often changed several times during a year and so not all changes have been discovered
and documented. If you have an item that does not agree with the TMJG, it may not be incorrect. However, you have
a choice to make:

  1. Change the item to match the TMJG if you want the points associated with NCRS Judging. Do not throw the
    item away.
  2. Do not change the item, but expect to have points deducted unless you can show it is original.
  3. Do not change the item if you are not having the car judged.

It may be possible that others have the same item you have, and that by judging with that item, the teams can find it was
truly a deviation within a range of cars, or it may be something that has not yet been discovered. If you believe judging to
be a learning experience, keep the part on the car. If you believe judging to be only for the award and the increased
monetary value on the car, change the part.


Update on Carlton Colclough,
National Judging Team Leader 1963-1964

After sending this information to Mr. Colclough, I received this reply in September 2006:

Colclc@aol.com wrote:

As you have been advised the site you are referenching will not be used as a reference by NCRS.

If you have information you wish to share with NCRS for consideration in updating the referenced subject above you may submit it along with appropriate documentation to my mailing address in the Restorer.

Please include your NCRS number with all submissions.

Carlton Colclough

You need to send information you have to Mr. Carlton Colclough directly at his address listed in The Corvette Restorer®.
If you do not have a copy handy, that address is:

Carlton Colclough, P.O. Box 3208, Augusta, GA 30904. 

His email is colclc@aol.com and his phone number is 706-736-1394 (evenings and weekends only).

Be sure to include your NCRS membership number.


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