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Interview with Cap'n Munchies

This interview originally appeared in TEEN ROK magazine #47.

How do you think Shag Bark Hickory has managed to stay so popular for so long?
Man, how does the Bible remain popular? Or the Koran? Or Busta Rhymes? It's the true word of God, man; the band is just a conduit.

You joined the band after they'd already released a few albums. Did you find it difficult to fit in, or was it rather natural?
I don't feel as if I actually "fit in" so much as "commandeered the troops." If you listen to the earlier albums, all the ingredients are there, but it takes a master architect to bake up a kick-ass pie. And that's what I did: I made rock 'n' f'n roll pie out of the assorted ingredients that were SBH. Sure, I only wrote about 1 3/4 songs and music for maybe a couple, but I was the noumena, the spark that dates back before the band's creation and so animates the corpse. Plus, I did some kick-ass fart sampling for the original version of Princess Of Our People, which was lost in the 80's dance remix when they brought in Ric Ocasek and Phil Spector to complete the track after Mr. Hole refused to work with Circus Boy, calling him "a dirty Tri-West faggot," which I thought was totally out of line.

Why does SBH seem to have a morbid fascination with Princess Die?
It's not a morbid fascination so much as an overwhelming urge to revisit her death and life, to make sense of our times and ourselves through her. Caesar Salad also wants to have sex with her in the afterlife, so he's trying to impress her with tribute albums and such. I think the Bishop's hiding a deep love of Elton John memorial songs. Plus, calling it "morbid fascination" obscures the groundbreaking journalistic and historical scholarship done through the Post Mortem Tribute Song Tribute Songs; for instance, SBH were the first to discover the true cause of her death (heroin overdose), and told the truth too terrible to tell about JFK, Jr. (eaten by sharks). Few other bands had the courage to do that. We won a Pulitzer Prize for each of those songs, remember.

What was the songwriting and recording process like? How did the songs develop?
An impertinent question. Wouldst thou demand of a Mason the secret rites of his initiation? Wouldst thou endeavour to depict the sweet sweet lovin' of Rosie O'Donnell and a cucumber? Asketh thou the rain how it produces Morrissey albums? Inquireth thou into the dark secrets of the midwestern colon? Would you grab Leo Tolstoy by the nutsack and shout "Hey batter batter batter!"? This interview is over.

Official word is that the band is on "indefinite hiatus." Are there any chances for future albums or possibly even a tour?
It's hard to say. What with the Bishop having surgically transformed himself into Elton John's body double, Caesar having ascended to heretofore untold levels of Dianetics and Circus Boy's absorption with creating the first eschatologically sound on-the-column four-speed transmission for his fleet of International Scouts, it is doubtful that the band could ever be reconfigured. I myself am currently too busy with certain lay analyses of the ontological roots of child beating in Wal-Mart to consider such projects. With the right inducement and alignment of Reese Witherspoon box sets, however, I could foresee yet another tour, but not again in Dover, our old stomping grounds. I have, in fact, had inquiries from such absurd places as Tajikhstan and Akron, Ohio. As yet, however, I have had little contact with the other members of the band, chiefly because Circus Boy insists that all communication be expressed in terms of corn to soy acreage ratios, the Bishop indefatiguably assaulting every individual in Crawfordsville with his "authentic" British accent and the constriction of Caesar Salad's vocabulary to -- in total -- "I am the volcano of souls" and "Battlefield Earth had its moments."

Can you solve the mystery of why SBH has so many songs with "shoes" in the title? And why aren't there more songs about Lionel Richie or that retarded kidfrom Life Goes On?
I'll go in reverse order, Virginia. For starters, the internal combustion engine was not economically viable until disposable income levels and production costs had reached a fleeting, if very real, equilibrium point in the early 20's. Napoleon, therefore, had to rely solely on hot air balloons and multigrain pancakes for his military transport, accounting both for his defeat at Moscow and the unutterable silliness of the idea of "French armed forces." Secondly, it was Trotsky himself, and neither Peter Jennings nor Buckminster Fuller who first formulated the concept of "whimsical socks," a development which led directly to the publication in English of O Magazine and the discovery of water on Mars. Let us not forget that, at this time, Lebanon Indiana was still a shithole. Skipping altogether sub-questions a through 1.1 (because they are impudent), I would point out that perhaps Corky Thatcher himself contained the seeds of his own antithesis (if you will escuse a little Hegelianism) when, in the Fourth Aphoristic Canto he pointed out that eating is both fun and serious. SBH were more of a serious band and so a certain circumspection is to be expected when approaching so great a cloud of witness as Corky presented us.
As for Lionel Ritchie, rumor has it that, upon entering a certain public drinking establishment at the same moment as a talking horse was being ejected, said literate equine was heard to address him directly, saying "well, I guess you and I are out of here." The problem Lionel Ritchie presents, therefore, is not so much a paucity of potential material, but in fact such great mass of inspiration and reflective depth (matched only, perhaps, by the very Baghavad Gita in its obscurity) as to frustrate all attempts to begin the journey of a thousand miles. Shoes, however, offer to both examples the possibility of a higher synthesis and more adaptable symbolic logic, wherein the shoe can in fact be provided by every individual listener, even as they surely wear their own shoes into the dark night. In exceedingly poor countries as well as most of Portland, Oregon and the Jesus People USA building in Chicago, such abstracted yet immediate rendering in discrete and comprehensible forms of concepts -- nay, modes of being and approaches to the infinite -- break down in their immediate stage, shoes having long since been discarded. A similar problem confronts the message of SBH in third world countries, where the catalogue, much like the Roman Mass, is hailed and venerated in what could best be described as Anterior Sacral (or at least Wikked Good) Cognizance, an a priori status of preliteration, an initial or even pre-verbal awareness that this is Some Hot Shit. It awaits the full flowering of its educational and antiseptic power, as the proper scribe has not yet emerged from those roiling masses. Referring back to a previous question, it could well be that, like Christ's appearance in South America during his three days of death, SBH shall be reconstituted in central Africa, Vancouver, a Big Boy restaurant or areas of similarly stunted humanity, as their accession to full existence in a condition of, to put it shortly, Psychopodiatric Impregnation will wash the world in a sea of bliss and understanding describable only by approximation with that nectar of the Titans, that WD-40 of the heavenly spheres, Chaos fruit-flavored beverage.

What were your personal favorite songs to record? What are your fondest memories from the recording sessions?
My favorite songs to record were undoubtedly "Nookie" and the Linkin Park cover album, both of which we did prior to their major label releases. Most of the rest of the songs (barring, of course, the Reload trilogy, for which I was primarily responsible) varied widely between "evening shit" and "intestinal scraping" in the pleasure they brought.

What bands or artists do you think have been directly infulenced by SBH?
SBH created music. We are also responsible for those shoes that light up when you walk, Shaquille O'Neal's speech impediment (which is to say, his thinking that he is capable of speech), the 128 disc cd wallet (they said you could never go above 96), electrical power and the countertop food processor. Not to mention Islam. We founded that also.

Do you attract a lot of girls by playing or singing some of your "saucier" songs such as your "Barry White Thing" or "Here Come Tha Homewrecker?"
First of, princess fuckwit, it's "Black Titan" and second, yes of course I do. If, by "attract a lot of girls" you mean "beat back the howling void within" and by "playing some of your saucier songs" you mean smacking young women in the nose with my penis. I do fuck a lot, if that's all you mean.

Is it true that you guys turned down a $44 million offer from MTV to do an "ass rockin' reality series?"
Yes, this is true, and I stand by that decision. The basic concept was sound, but it had to be presented as "An f'n rock ass reality series" or it just wouldn't work. Circus Boy attempted a thirteenth-hour compromise with the idea of calling it "The Musical Toilet," which I favored, but the Bishop would not budge on his absurd demand that every viewer first be certified as having bathed in tapioca pudding and Caesar Salad had, at the time, begun hurling himself at parked cars as if he were a boulder, and so the required 16/13 vote could not be obtained, Caesar Salad accounting for seven of the "yes" votes, three "no's" and an abstention. The math just wasn't there. Besides, would you have Dante re-release the Divine Comedy under the title "Things to Do In The Afterlife When You're Dead"? Because I would have (I was unable to arrange a suitable meeting with his agent, however), and that's why I'm the most brilliant thing ever.

And finally, didn't your brother do an "O.P.P." video?
Fuck you.

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