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Reflections....
....What has drawn us to the lifestyle
....And how that calling effects how we think, act and interact with others.
....How it has enhanced or detracted from our lives.


Dungeon Chat is held Wednesday Evenings 9-11 EST in the Dungeon @ Fantassia's Palace.
All are welcome with the understanding that we all have the right to disagree without being disagreeable.

(following text has been edited ~ foregoing greetings, etc.)

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Wed Jul 12 4:37:11 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: Tonight is Dungeon Chat 9-11 pm eastern standard time.

Topic . . .Reflections.

All welcome knowing the format is one of acceptance w/o having to acknowledge agreement and that disagreements do not need to be disagreeable.

Wed Jul 12 4:50:04 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~:

Definitions used in D&S, B&D and S/M

BDSM -
(1) Umbrella term for activities of B&D, D&S, S&M
B&D -
Bondage and Discipline. A subgroup within D&S which is largely involved in making the submissive physically helpless and applying stimuli which outside of a scene would be painful. See Bondage. See Discipline.
Blood sports -
A group of techniques in which the submissive's skin is broken and blood is allowed to escape. Since the advent of AIDS and the spread of hepatitis, interest in blood sports has declined and those who practice it have developed techniques to protect themselves. The most common blood sport is cutting. See Cutting.
Bondage -
A group of techniques for rendering a submissive physically helpless. These include rope ties, handcuffs and manacles, wrapping and mummification. See B&D. See Mummification. See Decorative binding. See Immobilization.
Bottom -
A submissive.
CBT -
Cock and ball torture.
Cutting -
A technique in which cuts are carefully made in the submissive's skin to produce an aesthetically pleasing pattern and stimulation to the submissive. The cuts are sometimes made into permanent markings by placing sterile foreign substances in them before they heal. See Blood sports.
Decorative binding -
Using rope or cord to compress or tie a portion of the body where struggle will not cause it to tighten or cut into the submissive. See Immobilization.
Discipline -
The application of stimuli which, outside of a scene, would be considered painful. Common discipline techniques are whipping, spanking and strapping. See B&D.
Dominant - An individual who accepts the submissive's power and uses it for their mutual pleasure. See Sadist.
Edgeplay -
These are particularly dangerous D&S that are looked upon with some trepidation. Because there is no formal 'ruling body' in D&S, what is called edgeplay is up to the individual. Therefore, something that to one person might be considered edgeplay might not be edgeplay to another.
Edgeplayer -
A person takes part in edgeplay. Example: "The guy is a real edgeplayer; he's into heavy bloodsports and asphyxia."
Go word -
A signal by the submissive that everything is all right and you can continue with or increase the present level of stimulation. See Stop word. See Slow word.
Golden Showers -
A humiliation technique where the dominant urinates on the submissive. Consumption of the urine may be part of this scene.
Immobilization -
Using rope or other bondage tools to render a submissive relatively helpless despite his or her struggles. See Decorative binding.
Masochism -
The ability to derive pleasure from pain. Derives from the writings of Leopold von SacherMasoch. See S&M.
Panic snap - A linking device used with cable and chain that allows two lengths to be disconnected even when there is tension in the system. A safety device.
S&M -
Sadism and Masochism; A term often used to describe the D&S scene; however, it is falling into disrepute because it is both inaccurate (Dominants are not sadists.) and overly limited (All submissives are not masochists.). See Sadism. See Masochism.
Sadist -
An individual who enjoys causing pain in a nonconsensual manner or regardless of the presence of absence of consent. Derives from the writings of the Marquis de Sade. See S&M.
Safe word -
A word or phrase which permits the submissive to withdraw consent and terminate the scene at any point without endangering the illusion that the dominant is in complete control. See Slow word. See Go word.
Scat -
A slang term for scatophilia, taking pleasure in playing with and sometimes eating feces. While this is occasionally used as a means of humiliation, it presents a relatively severe health risk, not limited to AIDS and hepatitis.
Slow word -
A signal by the submissive that things are getting too intense and you should change or decrease the stimulation. See Safe word. See Go word.
SAM -
Smart Arsed Masochist. A pseudo submissive who attempts to control everything the dominant does. A term of contempt. Example: "She's cute and willing, but she's a real SAM; you will spend most of your time trying to keep her from telling you which whip to use and how to swing it." See 'Topping From the Bottom.'
Scene (The) -
The gamut of D&S activities and people considered as a whole. Example: "The scene contains some of the nicest people I have ever met."
Scene (A) -
An individual session of whatever duration where the participants are in their D&S roles. Example: "It was a tremendously hot scene last night when Master Jim waxed Lisa at The Vault."
Slave -
Often used interchangeably with submissive. However, generally reflecting a more intense level of submission or non-sexual or sexual-plus submission. For example, a slave might be someone who remains in a 24-hour-per-day submission and cooks, cleans and, otherwise, takes care of a dominant's house. See submissive.
Strapple -
An elongated paddle with a bit more flex so that is something intermediate between a strap and a paddle.
Submissive -
An individual who gives up power in a D&S relationship for the mutual pleasure of those involved.
Suspension -
A set of techniques for suspending a submissive using ropes, webbing or chain so that no part of the body touches the floor. This is a highly specialized technique and great care must be used to prevent damage.
Switch (Switchable) -
A person who enjoys both the dominant and submissive roles. A switch may be dominant to one person and submissive with another or may be dominant or submissive with the same person at different times.
Top -
A dominant.
Topping from the bottom -
For a submissive to dictate the precise action in a scene. A term of contempt. Example: "She's cute and willing, but she's always topping from the bottom; you will spend most of your time trying to keep her from telling you which whip to use and how to swing it." See 'SAM'.
TT -
Tit torture. The term applies to both males and females.
Vanilla -
Not in the scene. A term used to describe ordinary, conventional life both sexual and otherwise. While it can be used in a pejorative sense, it is more often used to distinguish between scene and non-scene activities and people. Example: "I have to be careful in my vanilla life that people don't find out that I'm a dominant."
Definitions used in BDSM is a public service brought to you by Boston Dungeon Society for the greater BDSM community and is largely taken with permission from The Loving Dominant by John Warren. Each of us recalls the first steps into experiences of the lifestyle we here at BDS live and the feeling of not knowing all the lingo. We hope to make those first steps a bit easier for those who are now on the threshold.

Wed Jul 12 4:57:17 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: I have been out of state (Ohio for near on a week) and have been thinking of this discussion. Over the past year and a half a lot of topics have been covered and some of them re-covered. Generally they have covered "when you're new" (as there are always "new ones") or . . "what to do if" including several "how to's".

While they all have their value and applications those are pretty much the "things" one does . . .serving, ladies maid, foot worship, flogging, caning, needle play, single tail, wax, bondage . . . etc.

Those are things we "do" to elicit the response or to fill a part of us that we "require" fully feel "right". A great percentage of what is done in bdsm is the psychological aspects. Verbage and "Technique" can be learned by near on anyone that wishes to. It is the "reason" that we go there that is of more interest . . . at least to me.

So tonight . . "REFLECTIONS" will be on what has drawn us to the lifestyle . . and how that calling effects how we think, act and interact with others. How it has enhanced or detracted from our lives.

Wed Jul 12 4:59:42 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: Tonight when Dungeon Chat begins . . . this is the tack that we will be taking . . .looking back . . . reflecting

Wed Jul 12 6:39:58 2000
LES IS MORE(m):

sitting in the room jsut refecting

Wed Jul 12 6:47:52 2000
LES IS MORE(m): .

Wed Jul 12 6:49:35 2000
totally innocent: listening

Wed Jul 12 6:50:46 2000
LES IS MORE(m): refecting on totally listening

Wed Jul 12 6:51:22 2000
totally innocent: laughing...

Wed Jul 12 6:51:48 2000
totally innocent: there's a first time for everything...

Wed Jul 12 6:52:04 2000
LES IS MORE(m): refecting on the music of a young womans laughter

Wed Jul 12 6:52:39 2000
LES IS MORE(m): and what would be your first time

Wed Jul 12 6:53:19 2000
totally innocent: ok....snorting....not laughing....kind of wheezing like a car trying to start.....

Wed Jul 12 6:53:48 2000
LES IS MORE(m): rasing eyebrow

Wed Jul 12 6:54:09 2000
totally innocent: listening...of course.......breaking into peals of laughter....

Wed Jul 12 6:54:37 2000
LES IS MORE(m): hmm that might be a first for you

Wed Jul 12 6:55:06 2000
totally innocent: oh...but the eyebrows back down......You know You're a softy.....

Wed Jul 12 6:55:43 2000
LES IS MORE(m): long as the subbie behaves I am

Wed Jul 12 6:56:01 2000
totally innocent: dang...put.....

Wed Jul 12 6:56:40 2000
totally innocent: hmmm...and we know...i always behave......

Wed Jul 12 6:57:29 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: okay *shaking my head at LES IS MORE* welcome back . . . . .

*nods to totally innocent . .and wondering if that has ever applied to anyone*

Wed Jul 12 6:57:54 2000
LES IS MORE(m): so you know I am relaxed around you

Wed Jul 12 6:58:07 2000
totally innocent: trying a different color....

Wed Jul 12 6:58:25 2000
LES IS MORE(m): thank you C C

Wed Jul 12 6:58:42 2000
LES IS MORE(m): totally like that much better

Wed Jul 12 6:59:06 2000
totally innocent: it does ask Les.....giggling......

Wed Jul 12 7:00:00 2000
totally innocent: yes thinks navy...is for me.......

Wed Jul 12 7:00:20 2000
LES IS MORE(m): well she usually behaves there has been a time or two

Wed Jul 12 7:01:05 2000
LES IS MORE(m): totally I joined the navy to ride the waves

Wed Jul 12 7:03:43 2000
Lord Forest Myst: ~~poof~~

Wed Jul 12 7:04:15 2000
LES IS MORE(m): hello Forest

Wed Jul 12 7:04:34 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: Lord Forest Myst . . poofing in or out?

Wed Jul 12 7:04:51 2000
doll: Hello, MORE, Sir...i think i made it here..*smiling*

Wed Jul 12 7:05:36 2000
LES IS MORE(m): hello doll

have you met totally yet

totally have you met doll yet

Wed Jul 12 7:06:33 2000
doll: i think i've met you once or twice, totally...nice to see you again. *S*

Wed Jul 12 7:07:44 2000
LES IS MORE(m): doll she just went off line on icq so may have had to go to work

Wed Jul 12 7:07:49 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~: anyway . . . tis after the 9pm hour . . . so . . .here we go!

Welcome to yet another wednesday evening of Dungeon Chat here in Fantassia's Dungeon.

~ drum roll please ~

The Topic: Reflections ~ The Journey and the Goal

Wed Jul 12 7:08:04 2000
totally innocent: eek got booted

Wed Jul 12 7:09:16 2000
Alabaster Femme: Good evening...*S*

Wed Jul 12 7:09:40 2000
LES IS MORE(m): the jouney for ME began when I was eighteen a teasing playfull girl friend got ME to spank her

I liked it

Wed Jul 12 7:09:42 2000
totally innocent: be back in a few mins......hopefully

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