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Negotiations
Guest Presentors: LES IS MORE and doll)
How to do them ~ Why they are important ~ Includes a "mock" negotiation
Dungeon Chat is held Wednesday Evenings 9-11 EST in the Dungeon @ Fantassia's Palace.
All are welcome with the understanding that we all have the right to disagree without being disagreeable.
(following text has been edited ~ foregoing greetings, etc.)
Wed Oct 4 6:57:42 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
Greetings A/all
tonight I and doll will hold a mock negotation
remember each meeting is different
each has their own way
I will try to cover the things that should be covered
The Scene is a munch where doll was escorted to by CC
a common practice with nervous and scared newbes of the sub catagory
Wed Oct 4 7:00:39 2000
Jadzia: Good Evening Les...*ws*
Wed Oct 4 7:01:05 2000
Shade's doll: *quietly*...good evening, E/everyone..*S*
Wed Oct 4 7:02:11 2000
Jadzia: Evening doll....*BS*
~quietly moves to My chair and listens attentively.....
Wed Oct 4 7:02:19 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
hello doll
are you nervous at your first munch
Wed Oct 4 7:04:38 2000
Shade's doll: Yes, MORE, Sir....i find this intriguing...but it also makes me nervous...
Wed Oct 4 7:05:35 2000
~*~the light{MDS}~*~: ~quietly enters the room...takes a seat kneeling at Lisa's feet~
Wed Oct 4 7:06:31 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
well look around at the people here
I think that will help
what doll should see at a munch is a bunch of people
some fat some thin
some old some young
some well dressed some casual
and a large variety between
Wed Oct 4 7:07:27 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
you have nothing to worry about here
and CC will see to it you leave with her
so you are protected
Wed Oct 4 7:08:45 2000
Shade's doll: *smiling softly*...Yes, MORE, Sir....seems like a very "normal" crowd....are all these people really involved in this lifestyle?
Wed Oct 4 7:09:50 2000
Shade's doll: *smiles*...Hello, Master...thank You for coming!
Wed Oct 4 7:10:32 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
it is hard to tell is it not
if you see some one here you may know in "normal" life
you can say hi here
but when you get back
do not out them by talking to them outside about anything tonight
Wed Oct 4 7:11:30 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
tell Me doll what is it you are looking for out of this lifestyle
what interests you
Wed Oct 4 7:13:42 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
doll appears to be sticking and having trouble
smile
Wed Oct 4 7:14:46 2000
Shade's doll: as far as my interests go, i love being out of control...giving my will and control to someone else....i guess i'm looking for a "Master"?
Wed Oct 4 7:16:13 2000
~silent thunder~: ~quietly slips in and sits down~
Wed Oct 4 7:16:53 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
so you like being helpless
in a situation your Master controls
have you ever experianced this
or are you completely new to it
it is important when talking to someone new
you find out their experiance or lack of it
Wed Oct 4 7:17:12 2000
Shade's doll: MORE, Sir...will You tell me what it is that has drawn You to this lifestyle?...what first attracted You?
Wed Oct 4 7:17:14 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~:
Welcome to Dungeon Chat silent thunder. Tonight's topic is: Negotiations
Guest Speakers are LES IS MORE and doll
They are here doing a situational negotiation
~Please keep comments in the red and if you have questions please direct them to me in the red and they will be asked at an appropriate time. Please enjoy your stay - Further questions/answers/ may be posted on the BRC forum at www.thebrc.net
Wed Oct 4 7:18:58 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
I like to control a woman that gives Me her gift of self
one that comes to ME for what she wants and is willing to ask
Wed Oct 4 7:20:16 2000
Shade's doll: yes, i've experienced it....but never in a formal way....never with Someone who has had much more experience than me.....what i really want out of this is the honesty, exilleration, beauty, and excitement of a partnership....a coupling with someone who understands, appreciates, and complements my own needs and desires
Wed Oct 4 7:20:54 2000
LES IS MORE(m): as for what first attracted Me
at an early age I learned I like to spank girls
I have found many other things like bondage to enhance this
as a DOM you should always allow the sub to ask about you
so she/he knows where YOUR coming from
Wed Oct 4 7:21:22 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~:
walks close to see if doll is at ease then whispers softly and walks off a bit into the distnce see doll . . this isn't really so bad . . . ~soft smile~ it is a good place to ask questions
Wed Oct 4 7:22:33 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
doll I understand your feelings
are you sure you want to experiance this
is it MORE a fantasy some thing you desire
or is it something deeper you really need
Wed Oct 4 7:23:25 2000
LES IS MORE(m): winks at C C while she is talking to doll
Wed Oct 4 7:23:26 2000
Shade's doll: *smiling softly at CC, grateful for Her reassurance*...
MORE, Sir....may i ask....in giving this gift of myself...of releasing my control to Another....do i get to retain my own identity, set my own limits....or must i become Totally subject to the Will of the one i submit to?
Wed Oct 4 7:23:39 2000
Nightshade: Hullo doll .. good evening most delightful and shining one *h*
Wed Oct 4 7:25:02 2000
Shade's doll: i am very sure, MORE, Sir, that this is no fantasy on my part. it is more than a desire...it is a need within me....i truly believe this to be what will finally define who and what i am....
Wed Oct 4 7:25:34 2000
Sabre Wolf: evening Yall,,grins,,,hope A/all is well,,
Wed Oct 4 7:25:37 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
doll
doing that would make you My slave
are you seeking that
or just a good relationship with a play partner
Wed Oct 4 7:27:59 2000
Shade's doll: i have had play partners, as i said....but it is just that...play...
i am looking for more than even a lifestyle....i am looking for a life....and to become the sub, or slave, of a Master is the life i long for...i do know that much about myself....what i still need to understand is who sets the limits in such a relationship....if indeed, limits are set...
Wed Oct 4 7:29:39 2000
Shade's doll: i came here with CC, because i have no wish to jump into such a relationship with someone who claims to be of this lifestyle...but has very little real understanding....i wish to serve...but to serve Someone who is as committed to it as i am
Wed Oct 4 7:30:45 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
at first you set the limits
what you will not do is important to Me as it is to you
over time you will give up certain things to your Chosen Master
the one you can not stay away from
some day there may not be a safe word between you and your Master as you learn trust
Wed Oct 4 7:32:32 2000
Shade's doll: You say my "Chosen Master"....it really is as much my choice to become Your sub/slave, as it is Your decision to accept my gift...is that right?....
Wed Oct 4 7:33:26 2000
Shade's doll: and, if i understand You correctly....i am not required to relinquish complete control all at once?.....
Wed Oct 4 7:36:00 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
doll there is a lecture on normal every day items that can be used for D/s fun
it is next tues
I would be happy to meet you there and continue
but I must warn you right now I am only seeking a play partner
some one I can get to know and have fun with I am not ready right now for a commited relationship
Make plans to meet in a safe place is a good idea
cause DOMs you have to protect yourself
can you really trust this person to be what she/he says they are
trust works both ways and must be earned
and alway be honest about what your looking for
Wed Oct 4 7:38:02 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
that is correct for ME you have to want to belong
you make the choice as Much as I do
the first part of the relationship is really kinda like dating
a little MORE fun and intense but is really a couple thing
Wed Oct 4 7:39:03 2000
~Cyberotica-Chrysalis~:
smiles softly seeing that doll has found one of the more respected Doms to question about lifestyle issues
Wed Oct 4 7:39:27 2000
Shade's doll: i would like to learn more about this, MORE, Sir....so i would be happy to meet You again at the lecture....
and, in the meantime, i will do some more thinking about exactly what i want from this relationship...
subs:...you also must protect yourself....until trust is established...always meet in a public setting...or notify a trusted friend of where you will be...and a time you expect to return home...and report in....better to be safe than sorry...
Wed Oct 4 7:41:48 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
this scene fades out as I and doll make smaller chit chat getting familiar with each other
next scene is at the lecture after the lecture is over
both have come seperately and will leave seperately
Wed Oct 4 7:43:10 2000
LES IS MORE(m): doll will you ever look at the spoons and spatulas in your kitchen again in the same way
Wed Oct 4 7:44:52 2000
Shade's doll: *smiles*...probably not, MORE, Sir..*chuckling*....do all Dom/sub relationships include such "toys"?
Wed Oct 4 7:46:10 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
many toys dear
I have collected quite a toy bag
if I bring everything to a scene I have to use My station wagon and make at least two trips
Wed Oct 4 7:47:08 2000
tatzianna: Otay - what's da discusshion????? May I intrude??
Wed Oct 4 7:47:45 2000
LES IS MORE(m):
if we scene some of the toys I will use on you I will give to you to keep
I will use them as long as I am seeing you
but you will know they are yours to keep and will be used only on you
Wed Oct 4 7:47:52 2000
Shade's doll: does Your sub get to be involved in choosing which toys are used during a scene?
Negotiations ~ Continued ~ Page 2 ~
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