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"Joe" believes that the Torah……. their interpretation….. is the eternal supreme Law.
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"Joe" believes that the "Ketuvim Netzarim" (commonly referred to as the "New Testament") is the Mishna of Yeshua and the writings of the Nazarene Jews.
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"Joe" agrees with David Ben Gurion, the first Prime Minister of the modern State of Israel in saying, "A Jew is anyone who declares he is a Jew, lives a Jewish life and is interested in the welfare of the Jewish people"
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"Joe" recognizes conversion through any 'Judaism' as a valid conversion, on the condition that the convert accepts the Torah, their interpretation, in its entirety as a standard for his or her life.
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"Joe" has friends who agree that they must fulfill the Torah Mandate of restoring the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel by conversion, which must occur otherwise they hold back their Messiah from returning and thus delay "The salvation of Israel" as Paul says in Roman 11!!  Those who follow Yeshua need to convert if they love him.  Also Judah needs to hop on board, that's us, the Orthodox Jews, and follow Yeshua's teaching about making disciples (Matt.28:19) thus Judah, that's us, Orthodox Jews,  will work with Yeshua in bringing back their brethren Ephraim.  By doing this they advance the kingdom and help the speedily return of their Messiah.  Anyone who refuses to allow someone to convert because they believe in Yeshua as the Messiah is wrong.
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"Joe" has friends who are converting to Judaism and feel that it is O.K. in not saying anything about Yeshua being the Messiah since, in the same way, Rabbi Akiva as one of the great Rabbis of old believed in Bar Kochba as Messiah.  These friends contend that since no one questioned Rabbi Akiva's Jewish ness, why should they question theirs? 
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"Joe" has friends who if asked by a Rabbi …."Do you believe in Jesus?"….. Their friends are coached to say that they do not believe in the Christian Myth of "Jesus", nor that the historical person was born of a virgin, nor was he god, nor a member of a "trinity", …this is what the Rabbi wants to know…..and they feel this is an honest answer.
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"Joe" has another friend, who has a Netzarim Beit Din, which they claim is the only true beit din from the book of Acts.  They believe that the Jews "without" Messiah/Yeshua, Orthodox Jews, have no place in telling them that they are not converted.  Yeshua does not recognize Orthodox Jews as anything without him, so why would they allow Orthodox Jews to tell them whether or not they are Jewish, as Orthodox Jews are not recognized by Yeshua.  So why convert to Orthodox Judaism?  They need to become Halacally Jewish to be accepted in the Orthodox community so that they can infiltrate the Orthodox Jewish community.
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"Joe" has friends who believe they are the lost tribes of Ephraim.  They do not believe in Christian theology and thought.  They do not "worship" Yeshua.  They do not believe in the Trinity (at least most of them do not) and they do not hold to Fundamental Christian beliefs.   But they are very committed to "Yeshua" as the Messiah and the NT(New Testament) as his teaching.   They coach others on how to go before an Orthodox Beit Din…..what to say, how to answer the "Christian" questions.
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"Joe"  has a hard time dealing with Messianic organizations ….such as the Messianic Israel Alliance because there are so many Christians in them and their beliefs are Christian.  Those who are Jewish are not very educated in Torah.  They find that offensive, as they should be Torah educated if they want to help those in the lost tribes of Ephraim REALLY convert and connect to their Jewish roots.
These organizations actively missionize and link up with Christian organizations in Israel….such as
ICEJ and Bridges for Peace.  They see this as a sad story in itself…..that these Christian organizations use charity to missionize the Jewish people.  They do not condone that, but they do understand why they do it.   They just want the Jews to have the truth of Yeshua/Messiah and his love and life changing experience.
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We have only touched on a few "Yeshua" movements out there, but the number increases constantly.  They are all
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