Metaphysics of Quality
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Date sent:        Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:12:45 -0700

Dear Jerry:

It's nice that you wrote back.  Two things come to
mind:  (1) you value your word and strive to keep it
and (2) your mind is open.  Those are qualities that
too great a number seem not to achieve.

I lived in England for a year during 1981 and  I
visited Stonehenge.  The British government had limited
access to it in such a way that you couldn't get too
near.  It was one of those few places that leaves you
in awe and wonderment.  (For me, Monument Valley has a
similar effect.)  I think it is a mistake to think that
those who came before us were primitive or, to put it
another way, to think that we have somehow surpassed
our ancestors (because of our technological
advancements).  We, i.e., modern peoples, are no better
than the ancients when it comes to advancement of peace
and individual awareness/consciousness.  Why?  Because
that is not our primary focus.  And, it must be the
primary focus of each and every human being on the face
the earth in order for peace to reign.

It's hard to believe that an aggressive move isn't
underway to arrest Milosevich.  The same can be said of
Sadaam Hussein after the Gulf War.  Yesterday, I was at
the local canned food store stocking up for future ???
and guess what?  They had imported meats from Croatia.
They had imported cat food from China.  Since when does
America need to import food?  Oh, I know we've been
getting fruits and vegetables from Mexico and South
America.  But, canned goods from China and Croatia?

Rory Fitzgerald in his Natural Law article outlines a
hierarchy of values.  Without going back to that site,
as I recall, it is structured from the least important
to the highest importance like this:  the inorganic,
the biological, the society, and the idea.  He then
asks questions like:  "Why is it okay for a doctor to
kill bacteria within a human body?"  The answer:
"Because the human organism exceeds that of bacterium
within the hierarchy of values."  In this way, he leads
to the conclusion that an idea can kill society.  And,
one example of this thinking is the idea of Mutually
Assured Destruction, MAD, i.e., the belief that we will
never fight a nuclear war because nobody will win.
Another example is the idea that we can continue to
rape this planet of it's resources at the pace we
currently do (without suffering any ill effects).
Unfortunately, too few people have a perspective which
includes a sufficient period of time to even realize
that our current course in unsustainable.

I recall the state of peace I felt when I first entered
the Columbine group on April 21st.  It was very easy
then for me to reach out, even to angry, hateful
people.  I don't feel that way now.  Now, I think we've
gone too far in an unhealthy direction to correct
ourselves without strong leadership.  And, since our
leadership has sold out, we don't have a chance.  Can
you believe that Congress actually voted to post the
Ten Commandments in public schools and buildings as a
means of correcting the school violence problem?  What
a disgrace!

Yes, I'm just rambling.  I feel helpless and hopeless
and, although I may attempt to enlighten others, I
really don't believe humanity has much of a chance.  If
what happened at Columbine wasn't enough to bring this
nation to its knees, I doubt anything will short of a
nuclear winter.

I would like to hear more about the Druids.  I've
haven't read much about them although I did understand
that Stonehenge was some kind of tool to read the
stars, like a calendar of sorts.  Maybe that's wrong.
Will you tell me more?

Well, I'd better sign off with that.  You have been
such an inspiration throughout the Columbine group.  I
wonder...what is your impression now?  What conclusions
have you reached?  What is your overall feeling?  I
really want to know.  Please write back.

Ms A.


What is the Metaphysics of Quality? By Rich Pretti [Science leaves us with a vast storehouse of useful answers to the "what, when, where and how", but no indication as to "why?" Why did a bunch of molecules become a physics professor who makes pronouncements on their quantity? And a philosopher who sees their quality?]

Einstein's answer, "Science explains the how, Religion explains the why."

Date: Wednesday Jun 23, 99

Hi Ms A,

Domo arigato gozaimasu (indebtedness is never ending), you are too kind with words about my humble qualities. Thanks. Your own quality of sincerity and thought show in your email as well, an equal inspiration for me. Oh, that's about the only Japanese I know and I think I got the translation right. It could be "do itashimashite gozaimasu" (you're welcome) that translates to (indebtedness is never ending.)

1. Columbine Discussion Group and Event.

It hasnt progressed as I expected for a News/Discussion Group, it was my first too. It was too much like Yahoo's chatrooms with everyone just expressioning opinions about the same ole topics. I should have left about the middle of May when most the talk dragged on, but I kept hanging on waiting for it to get to the real business of making corrective action plans for the next school year. There's something about the type of forum that invites "debate" which implies conflict between opposing views. Thus there is little discussion and forward progress. Well, maybe not that, there was progress, it was just one had to dig through all the posts to find bits and pieces of it.

Just like chatrooms, there were the Disruptors who used foul language or preached their special interest and cause the group to get sidetracked (or is it haulted in it's tracks). Two or three like that who ran off others who probably had usefull insight into the problem of youth violence. I began to see in one all the bad qualities of the Columbine event itself: irrational hate, both abuser and abusee, bad adult role model for the kids reading the discussion, a walking time bomb looking for a place to explode and I'm sure he doesnt realize that about himself.

I still read the posts, the tide is trying to turn for the better, some of the readers only have started to post their thoughts, I always suspected they were lots more readers than posters. Therein I want to find hope, they've always been the lurkers, people reading the posts with all the theory talk, taking notes and making action plans for their own schools. I suspect also that the real discussions are going on via email, people meet in discussion groups and then carry on their exchange privately. That's what goes on in chatrooms too, those quiet rooms with lots of people in them talking privately.

2. Congress, political thinking or lack thereof (haha).

I dont know if you've heard of the Lousiania case yet, within the past few weeks. The governor and legislators there have passed a law requiring students and youth to say, "Yes Ma'ame" "No, Sir" to the teachers, police and other authoritive adults. Such is some of our elected leaders' thinking and solution. Sounds too much like political retoric and a re-election slogan. There's been *laws* to legislate morality from the beginning of civilization, cant be done, now they're trying to legislate *respect* from kids? It's done just the opposite, de-valued the real meaning of "Yes Ma'ame" "No Sir". It's no longer an indication of the respect an adult has earned from a youth. It's just the law now and probably will be said with a hidden sneer or snicker on the youth's face.

In this part of the youth violence arena, it will be all the same as before. The adult political world will do their own thing, special interest politics, bickering between the parties, some *feel good, look what we did* to stop youth violence legislation.

It is in the youth world that the real solution lies. Within days the youth recoginized what had happened at Columbine, the abuse two received and the injustices they saw happening around them finally erupted. Just as soon, comes the "I Will" plan from someone in Tennessee arrives. They know they cant depend on help from the official adult world, only on an individual level does help come from adults, those involved with youth groups, school programs and such. As one of the Columbine students has already said in some casual news interview, "It's our problem, we'll have to take care of it ourselves." To that I'll add, "Despite what the adult world does to hinder us."

3. Stonehenge and Druids.

Stonehenge was designed to be a calendar for the seasons and lunar cycles, no stellar objects were pointed to with stone alignments, if I remember G Hawkins' book correctly. Most people, I guess, think of the midsummer solistice alignment when the think of Stonehenge. But all the major sun and moon poistions were pointed to by different alignments of stone markers. There are also two circles, one with 36 positions and one with 56 positions. G Hawkins developed a method of using sets of moving stones appropriately spaced along the circles that predicted when an eclispe was likely to happen. I forget the details, stones with one circle got moved daily while the others got moved yearly. This is what made Stonehenge a computer.

According to G Hawkins' work, Stonehenge was built in 4 stages, I, II, IIIA, IIIB, between 1900 and 1600 BCE, each contruction periods lasting 3 or 4 generations. I think more recently, 1980s vs early 1960s, some believe it to be even older by a 1000 years, but I'm not sure where I read that. I cant readily find when it is believed it fell into disuse and abandoned, probably after about 500 years. Anyway, if I understand Druid myth, they didnt come along till the last centuries BCE, Ency Brit says earliest records were 3rd century BCE. The Druids were most likely descendants of the builders but so far distant in time that they developed around the myth of Stonehenge.

PS. I looked though the discussion group postings and saw that you didnt make any, at least as Ms A. I've alwasy felt I've seen your name before. Did you use to chat in Yahoo's Religion Room?

Later
Jerry

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Being heart-broken, dis-heartened, dis-couraged by the group, all that's easy to happen. I've felt the same at times and about society as well. I know with me it is because of all the negativism in the news, it's a biased view point we are presented with. There's something about human nature that lets the bad be seen and remembered more than the good. Maybe it's because I've let myself be brainwashed by 40 years of watching evening news, I still remember when Huntely - Brinkley report was just 15 minutes, after 15 minutes of local news. I should have been more like the typical/sterotype kid and teenager, out of the house hanging with my peers, probably worring my parents about what I was upto and with who and where.

It was in one of my posts, quotes of a local teen's view of large schools: factories of hate, students are products rolling down the assembly line, impersonal, distant connections between the adult world and teen world. But maybe that's not quit the case. How many individuals does it really take to cause such a tragedy as Columbine? Two, three, five maybe less than ten? Two really bad abusers, jocks or just a plain jerks, and two abusees who finally explode because they cant or dont get any justice from the system. Then along comes the media hype after the event, that biased view point that clouds all of our thinking.

I guess what I'm trying to say, we still cant be sure we've learn all the truth. Littleton community and school authorities may have been asking for Columbine to happen, or blinded by the hidden desire and hope it wouldnt happen.
Date sent:        Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:26:52 -0700

Dear Jerry:

Thanks for the reply and the history of Stonehenge.  I
had always thought the Druids were credited with
building it and that they had been around since the
first millennium.  If they didn't build Stonehenge, who
did?  And, one question I've heard asked is how did
they get those stones there to begin with?  I guess a
team of horses and men could have done it.  Have you
gone there?  It is an eerie place.  You get a sense of
your own smallness there just like in Monument Valley
or at the Grand Canyon although the last 2 occurred
naturally.

Also, the Louisiana legislation cracks me up.  I was in
the Army in 1974-1977 and before that my parents taught
me to address elders and sir and madam.  It's something
I still do to this day (at age 43).  But, like you
said, you can't legislate morality or good manners.
This is another example of how messed up our leaders
are.  The apathy I've witnessed since Nixon was
president has brought us to this point and it appears
to have exceeded the point of no return.  We have only
ourselves to blame.

Maybe I'm neurotic but I think we, as members of this
society, are also responsible for the outbreak of
school violence.  Every time it happens, I feel like I
should do something.  When Columbine happened, I
thought the time was ripe for us all to come together
and find common ground from which to make positive
changes in order to prevent this from happening again.
I knew there would be new calls for gun control but I
don't believe that's the problem.  There are no guns in
this house but I would never sanction their forfeiture.
The problem goes deeper than that.  Blaming it on guns
is taking the easy way out.  I believe if we disarm
innocent people that criminals will still find a way to
get guns.

I think it's a spiritual deficit.  I don't believe in
god but understand why people do.  And, I do have an
active spiritual life without believing in god.  I
recall one of your posts and even at your web site
where you quote several different religious principles
which all amount to the same thing.  I never could
understand how there could be so many gods and so many
different religions.  Finally, I settled on the belief
that man created the idea of god and I think we did it
because it's so hard to accept responsibility for our
own actions, etc.  It appears to be equally as hard to
accept that we have choices and that we can choose to
think, talk, and act however we see fit. It is the
responsibility of the individual to expand his/her own
consciousness.  The sad fact is that people are
inherently lazy and think that taking the easy way out
will serve them best in the long run.  That's
short-sightedness, in my opinion.  It may be more
painful to accept responsibility (at first) but, as
time goes on, the process of accepting responsibility
deepens character and the benefit is that it adds
greater value to life.

The Metaphysics of Quality really inspired me when I
first read it, especially the Natural Law article by
Fitzgerald.  He seems to be onto a method of developing
a true science of values.  Relativism has caused a lot
of regression in modern thinking, I think.  And what
Fitzgerald seems to be trying to accomplish is a way of
establishing universals.  I think the possibility of
that is an exciting prospect for humankind but I don't
expect it to be adopted by the masses.

Ms A.

Date Jun 25, 99
Hi Ms A,

I only remember John saying something about deleting that Goth thread. Ha, I've read 3,000+ posts, I really dont remember anything particular about one or the other. I should have quit at about 1,500.

From the time I spent in chatrooms, I've learned that communicating over the internet, chatrooms, news groups, board postings... they all arent really worth much. It's always too easy to mis-interprate someone else's wording and then they're those who look for something to disagree about and not something to agree with. Or purposely use foul words just to cause a disturbance. I'm really surprised I didnt get jumped on more, seems like most of my posts just got ignored.

I felt the good feelings too in the beginning, about all the condolences and memorials. I was expecting the NG to eventually get around to serious talk about what to do to prevent others. But then all the fuss over racism, foul language, insults, especialy 9's bad attitude, got in the way. I knew the only thing I could do was just wait for the storm to pass. All the bad stuff that's happened in the NG has just left me with a bad impression.

I'm spending less and less time there now, even deleted the NG from the browser. But went back this morning to check on it, didnt read but 3 or 5 posts. I'm finally breaking old habits.

About Stonehenge. You might try finding Gerald Hawkins book STONEHENGE DECODED, 1965, Doubleday and Company. There may be a good website about it, the ones I've found are more tourist related. A few quick answers to your questions. Built by a post stone age local community, not neccessarily a particular group or cult. The big upright stones (sarsen stones) came from a location about 20 miles north of the site, probably pulled on sleds during winter when ice was on the ground, by men. What is called the Bluestones, 80 I think, came from west Wales, 240 miles away, by sled overland and barge over water. I was there in April '93 on one of them 3 week bus tours around the Isles and Ireland. Only got to spend less than an hour there, and they still dont let people walk among the stones.

I'll write more about MoQ and other stuff latter.

Jerry
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