THIS INTERVIEW STARTED A LONG TIME AGO AND, AS ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN A CERTAIN ELECTED NEW HAMPSHIRE'S MAN IS INVOLVED, IT TOOK AGES TO BE FINISHED... WELL I CAN HONESTLY SAY I WON'T BE WAITING SO MUCH FOR ANY BAND YOU KNOW, BUT THE TUNNEL RATS REALLY DESERVE THE HONOUR, AND EVEN IF THIS WEBSITE IS NOT THE BEST OF THE PUBLISHED SPOTS I PRESENT THE TALK WITH THE MAN, DUKE CREVANATOR, IN ALL ITS UNREPENTANT GLORY....
GD-
Let's skip the story, everybody knows me and you are the best of friends,
so I need to ask wiser questions this time: what has changed more or less
in the Tunnel Rats in all these years on the hunt?
Fuck, a lot has changed. When we first started we all lived within walking
distance to eachother in Dover, New Hampshire. Me and Bernie lived together
and we practiced in the basment of our apartment building that was built in
about 1830. it had a dirt floor and we had to run extension cords up the basement
stairs because there was no electricty down there. We used to piss behind
the furnace. We had hundreds of empties all over the place, and several bongs.
And we used to do lines of coke while squatting on the dirt with a mirror
on a milk crate. Now we all live about 30 minutes away from eachother, most
of the band members have kids, we all have wives, and our practice space has
heat and electricty. But at least there's still hundreds of empty beer cans,
bongs and scratched up mirrors. So now that I think about it, it's not all
that different I reckon. Except the driving part. We still write all our songs
the same way. Me and Captain Leech write the lyrics at the bar, then we get
together and write the music around the lyrics we have.
GD-
NH seems to be a good place when it comes to spawning evil minded characters,
just think of GG, the early Queers, you guys, Stephen King... what's the element
that make you turn into hellraisin' bastards according to you??
Well first off, Stephen King is actually from Maine, not New Hampshire. Although
I live only about 20 minutes from the Maine border. As for your question,
I think it's a combination of things. First off, New Hampshire has a very,
very unique attitude. There is a lot of state pride here. For your readers
in Europe, it's kind of like how certain countries in Europe look down on
other European countries. People in New Hampshire look at a state like California,
the way the Germans look at France. Or the way the Italians look at a country
like Slovenia. We just can't stand a state made up of a bunch of smelly hippy
losers. Which is why people in New Hampshire tend to hate states in the northeast,
the midwest and the northwest. We tend not to have a problem with southern
states and southwestern states. With the exceptions of Florida, Colorado,
Illinois and Indiana. But that's a whole other story. Also, there isn't much
to do in New Hampshire but drink outside, either in the snow or the hot sun.
It's wilderness up here man. Granted there are some built up areas, but for
the most part we're total woods and mountains. I mean most cities in the US
have a larger population than the ENTIRE state of New Hampshire. For example
Marco, when you and I hung out in Austin, Texas, we were in a city that had
more people than my entire state does. This lack of things to do, along with
brutally cold and long winters tends to cause people to go a little crazy.
Especially crazy in an anti-social way. Hence the large proportion of sociopaths
who hail from the "Live Free or Die" state.
GD-
Now let's focus on the 10" you did on Scarey... don't you think it's too metal
looking and the Nerds are a bunch of pricks??
A two part question? Well the answer is yes and yes. Nah, I'm just kidding.
I think the record is kind of metal-looking, but I love it! And I don't think
the Nerds are a bunch of pricks, I just think they are a bunch of typical
slimy ass ignorant ugly greasy dagos. Just like the guidos I have to deal
with all the time when I go down to Boston for a show. Nah, I'm just kidding
again. I love the Nerds bcause they are NOT like dumb ass American Italians
I deal with all the time. I must admit the Nerds are a bad ass band, and their
side of the record gets played a lot here at the Crevanator compound, along
with their CDs.
GD-
What about "I like to Hurt people"? Heard you guys were up with a project
with the same name...
Actually it's a good thing I waited so long to do this interview. "I Like
to Hurt People" was a movie made in the early 80's about the infamous pro-wrestler
The Sheik. It was produced by Donald G. Jackson, who is a very famous B-Movie
director here in the US. Roller Blade is probably his most famous film. Anyway,
it has long been a dream of mine to cover the ENTIRE soundtrack to that movie.
Well Steel Cage records said they would put it out in 2004 if we recorded
it. Lately I have been in touch with Mr. Jackson and he likes the idea. However,
he does not own the rights to the songs. So as I write this, I'm waiting to
hear from the owner of the song rights. But if your readers want to help,
e-mail me with messages saying how much you'd love to see the Tunnel Rats
do this project and I'll forward them on to Mr. Jackson. In fact, I'm begging
your readers to do so! email me at dukecrev@attbi.com
GD- You are one of the few not southern CoS bands, how do you feel like being
Yankees among'em??
This has never been an issue. I guess when we first started hanging out with
COS bands (we attended one Supershow, and played another before we were inducted)
we tended to hang out more with bands like Limecell and Rancid Vat because,
with all of us being Yankees, we tended to talk too fast and just be generally
manic and hyper. That is a major flaw in all of us Yankees. We can't figure
out how to relax. But as time has gone on, we (the Tunnel Rats) desperately
look forward to hanging out with people who know how to relax and take things
as they come. Hell, when a southern COS band is stressed, we still think they
are mellow. A classic example was Walt Wheat of Before I Hang in New Orleans
for the last Supershow. If I had been in his shoes I would have been bouncing
off the fucking walls with stress. And I'm sure he was stressed out, but man
you wouldn't have known it by talking to him. He was cool as a cucumber. I
know the Southern bands, even though they hate most Yankees, don't place us
in that category. And hell, I'm damned honored about that. Even though I do
tend to go Yank sometimes and blabber a mile a minute because that's what
I have to do up here just to survive. It usually takes me 24 hours at a Spershow
to slow down to a reasonable level.
GD- Listen to this, a lot of times I hear from wimpy pop-punk adicts saying
you are a great band just because B-Face plays in the band, and not 'cause
he's a motherfuckin' great man, but because he played with the Queers, Groovie
Ghoulies and so on... what do you think about this?
I think the TR have NOTHING to compare to those bands and audience... DUKE:
Of course the Tunnel rats have NOTHING to do with pop punk. However we in
the Tunnel Rats ARE good friends with many pop punk bands, like the Groovie
Ghoulies, the Teen Idols, the Nobody's (well no JJ's new band Down the River)
and many, many others. But if we wanted to be a pop punk band, we would have
been one. The fact of the matter is, me and B-face started this band because
the Tunnel Rats style was the kind of music we wanted to play. Just because
B-Face has played in those other bands never made a difference. And if you
think that B-Face isn't a total bad-ass just because he's played in the Queers
and the Groovie Ghoulies you are a fucking idiot. First off, B-Face has never
played in a bad band. Think of how great the Queers WERE, how great the Groovie
Ghoulies, the Real Kids and the Tunnel Rats ARE today. You have to realize
that B-face is not only incredibly talented, but he's pretty fucking smart
as well. He's never put himself in a crappy band. As for what pop punk kids
think, why on earth would we give a fuck? If you like the Tunnel Rats, good
for you. If you hate us, we prefer that.
GD-
What about your ancient Roman Empire fixation? Where does it come from?
I spent five years of my life studying Roman History and Latin. I have also
studied history in general pretty extensively, but the Romans are the most
fascinating. If you live in the US or Europe it's amazing to really know how
much influence the Romans have in the year 2003 on our governments, languages,
customs, military, justice system, well just about everything. It's sad not
many people even realize it. It also helps that some of the most bizarre,
brilliant and ruthless people come from that era. So many great stories exist
about people like Antony, Sulla, Marius, Pompey, Julius Caesar, etc. Actually
everyone always thinks of Caligula as crazy, but he was hardly the craziest.
I specialized in studying Roman history in the years 500 BC to 100 AD, and
there are a lot of people who put Caligula to shame. Antony being my favorite.
GD-
Where does Captain Leech has gone? He used to sing and now he just made a
spare appearence on the 10" for Scarey...
I see Captain Leech at least 5 days a week at the bar. He's alive and well.
You'll most likely never see him play live again (unless the CoS Supershow
happens in Vegas this year) because he has his own reasons for not playing
live. But every new Tunnel Rats song you will hear will have the lyrics co-written
by Leech and myself. And we'll get him in the studio to sing a few of them
for every record, I promise that.
GD- Tell me something about your sport
mania and the time when last year your team won the Superbowl.
Well we all are fans of various sports, but we are only psychotic about American
Football. And obviously our team is the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS! I know in the
case of Captain Leech and myself, we were so excited when the Patriots won
the Superbowl because for our entire lives the Patriots had been a horrile
team, but we loved them anyway. And to have them finally win the Superbowl
made all those years of suffering worth it. They were the best, when no one
gave them a chance to win. I am not ashamed to admit I cried when they won
the Superbowl. All those years of being made fun of for wearing Patriots shirts,
hats and other stuff, my dedication to them had finally paid off. As for why
we love American Football so much. Well it's hard to explain to a European
audience. It is the most violent sport in the world. Even though they wear
the helmets and pads, believe me these guys are so much bigger, faster, and
stronger than any other athletes. How many other sports have at LEAST 2 or
3 players end up paralyzed every year because of playing it? Not your version
of football, rugby, or any other sport.
GD-
I think you guys would be a bigger band if you'd just tour more, but I also
know you have other things to do in your lives to take care of this aspect.
What do you think?
You may be right. I'm not sure. We gave up the idea of trying to tour about
a year into starting the band (1994 or so). I think we put on a pretty good
show when we want to. So perhaps if we toured that would be the case. I really
have no interest in touring the United States. I've already seen most of it,
and when you get right down to it, I prefer to hang out in the swamp behind
my house fishing, drinking beer and listening to tunes on my portable CD player.
Or hanging out at the local bar in tiny New Hampshire shooting the shit with
the locals, flirting with the hot waitresses, going to the strip joint, and
shooting my guns down in the sand pit. I really respect all of my friends
who do tour. People like Antiseen, Cocknoose, the Teen Idols, I don't know
how they handle it. I love playing, and I love to talk with people who go
to our shows, but I hate dealing with promoters, and I hate being in cars
or vans for a long period of time. However, when it comes to Europe, I'd love
to tour there, at least Italy. Too bad that me and B-face would probably be
the only members who could go. Any chance some members of the Nerds would
be willing to become European Tunnel Rats for a short tour? I'll already be
in Latvia for 10 days in late June 2003, perhaps I can extend my stay by 2
weeks or so?
GD- Maybe brother,
maybe one day this will happen... and I'm writing this here... just please
don't wait 'till I get old to do it, I could have problems holding my guitar
in hands, ehehehehe....
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