Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:33:48 -0800
The Torch/ASH newsletter is an interesting piece. This year I just signedup
to get it, and not to be a "voting" member. It is a well produced, no typos
that I have spotted, newsletter on a totally paranoid anti-all-religions
bent. They collect stuff from interesting places.
I suspect that the closet "founder" of ASH, one John Stahl, is the real
editor, and putz is just a goffer. Realize that Stahl is a "risen above"
Alcohol Any-mouses defector. He just sees too many references to god in
their 12 steps. And he collects AA bashing material from where-ever. If you
see anti-AA items, they come straight (oops, pardon the pun) from Stahl.
Now, look at the problem Susan has with all this paul/linda shit. To be
Humanistic we must accept all commers, all different views, etc. etc. The
hardest part of being a 501-3-c, which wants to accept all, is how to manage
expelling someone. The process is brutal and divisive. Now, if they would
just "accept the divine guidance and genuflect in submission..." (oops,
wrong religious paradigm.) You really don't want to get HSGP into calling
the cops and dragging off Linda&Paul for trespassing. Ugly, ugly.
That's all I have to spew at the moment.
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OK, I accept your point that they shouldn't have driven me off last summer,
but... After Mike and I spent months "pushing on the rope" of trying to get
THEM to adhere to the ASH Bylaws, and seeing that they had a voting majority
on the ASH board, I just gave up and went on to happier, more humanistic,
things.
Interesting points on paul's claimed military disability. Shounds like a
really good reality check on his claims. Naturally, a confrontation on the
order of "Paul, you're full of shit and a total fraud about your military
disability" will only be met with a tirade of profanity and bluster. I know,
I've been there.
> and Marie Callendar's. You made a mistake in letting him run you off. He is
> all mouth and bluff. You should stand up to him every time.
> Linda is a mentally deficited (not defecated) whiny misfit. She has never
> converted anyone to be an atheist, nor can she lead. She is a manipulator.
> She told me, ethnically she was a Jew. She came from around Joliet, Illinois.
> She is a poison pen or poison mouth. Paul does notwrite the newsletter. It is
> a cut and paste job created at Kinko's. Everything you see in their paper is
> copied from other secular humanists publications or newspapers, or any other
> publication that Paul can find. As I told Paul, he is not literate enough to
> publish a newsletter. The only apropos page is the cover page which lists
> SHGP meetings and the Skeptics. These people would save money by mailing only
> the last page. These people are all show, but no brains beedie22@aol.com
>
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