Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:49:52 -0700 From: rsrchsoc@ionet.net (John Wilde) Subject: [lpaz-repost] Re: [legality-of-income-tax] enough code debate already.......... To: legality-of-income-tax@yahoogroups.com
Jeff,
I have been saying this for almost 2 years. At this point discussing the intent of the 16th Amendment and the Internal Revenue Laws is an exercise in academia and not a basis upon which to change the situation. The problem is everyone wants to whine about how put out they are, about the corrupt courts about how that "just can't get a break." This is one of the reasons why I have generally stopped posting to this group. Not enought people have shown that they have any independent vision to advance the principles of liberty. They only want to complain.
I keep saying there is a political solution out there, but only a few are willing to step up and do the work. The people in this "constipation" suffer from the same malady as those who are clueless. They are bascally lazy. They want a free lunch. They want someone to tell them how it is and how to do it.
If they can no longer "pine" about the meaning of the Internal Revenue Code and the 16th Amendment, and they have to seek a political solitition, it means they are really going to have to go to work. It means they are going to have to become persuasive thinkers and talkers of their own accord. They are going to have to learn to lay their "heart out on their sleaves" only to have it snatched up and have thelife squeezed out of it. It means living, loving and getting political instead of legal. The fact is as long as the patriot "constipation" keeps engaging in these academic exercises we are going to go absolutely nowhere.
We have a choice, we either shift our focus to the political arena now, or it will not be possible in the next few years.
So folks on the "legality-of-income-tax" group, when you are truely ready to discuss and active political solution instead of nearly meaningless academic exercises, I will discuss it with you privately off of the group. Everytime I try and discuss it directly on the group, several blind unambitious people choose to become insulting dolts instead of intelligent debators. We don't have time to deal with those folks. They will never change.
Until then,
g'day John Wilde
thepsyopsdept@yahoo.com wrote:
> It is obvious that we can debate Title 26 until the cows come home
> and get nowhere.
>
> It is obvious that the courts are corrupt and fair honest trials are
> non-existent.
>
> It is obvious that our valid arguments fall on deaf ears by our
> elected criminal idiots, our government, the IRS and the courts.
>
> Why do we all still waste our time discussing them on this site?
>
> If you re-read previous post from a year ago, it is the same
> conversations.....meanwhile, brave patriots are being rounded up for
> persecution.
>
> If we had a "justice" system instead of a "legal" system, we would be
> getting somewhere but this is simply not the case anymore. Our courts
> and government are not based on the law, they are based on status
> quo, and guided by public policy and opinion.
>
> With the reign of terror coming down on us by the IRS, debating the
> code is fruitless. We are wasting our time.
>
> We need to start directing our time and energy on other avenues
> instead of debating and analyzing Title 26.
>
> I don't know if I can read another debate between Mr. Rookard and
> us....his post are proof positive the Title 26 is not positive law
> because it doesn't take arocket scientist to see real law cannot be
> argued and debated like this. Reading his debates is like reading a
> religious debate.
>
> Lets look to some people from the not so distant past. African
> Americans probably did not sit around and discuss slavery
> laws.....even if there were laws.....they didn't waste their time.
> They became active and either disobeyed the "law", or educated
> everyone to its dispicable nature.
>
> They protested (which we have done) but they kept at it.
>
> Jackie Robinson while an officer in the Ary, refused to sit in the
> back of the military bus. He suffered, and was eventually discharged,
> but he stood fast.
>
> Meek little Rosa Parks also had enough one day. She simply refused to
> give up her seat to a white woman. Regardless of the "law", she had
> finally had enough. She was arrested, but she sparked Martin Luther
> King to become active. They became very pro-active. They set out to
> change the laws, or the status quo.....
>
> There are many in on this board and many in the movement who are
> very, very active, but the movement needs to get even more pro-active
> as a whole.
>
> Lets get t-shirts made with the "no" symbol over the IRS....lets get
> simple pamphlets made to distribute everywhere. Lets get TV spots
> done. Let's all send one letter a week to the IRS, Congress and the
> Banking and Finance Ccommittee. Lets educate our fellow Americans and
> work on abolishing the IRS and the income tax. Lets quit discussing
> the Code, it is not getting us anywhere.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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