Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:36:23 -0700 From: rsrchsoc@ionet.net (John Wilde) Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] LP national press release To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Richard,
Before you defend the indefensible, you should get your facts straight. You continue to conveniently forget that the LNC dissaffiliated the ALP in August of 1999 and then chose to affiliate with Peter Schmerle and ALP Inc. that November/December of 1999. So at the timethe National Convention choose Harry Browne in 2000 as the candidate, the ALP was not the affilliate and was under no obligations to abide by the LNC's choice. The LNC knew that the ALP was not affilliated and had no reason to believe that ALP was affilliated.
What the LNC counted its chickens on was Peter Schmerle's promises that he would deliver control of the Arizona Libertarian Party to the LNC and would deliver control of the ballot status. Unfortunately for Peter and the LNC, the Arizona Court's saw throug Peter's deceptions and found that the current officers were the leaders of the ALP and not Peter and Co.
So as usual the LNC/LPUS's press release was full of half truths and evasions and shows that the LNC is not yet willing to accept reality of the situation. Given the stupidy and the recent allegations of criminal activity by certain members of LNC over the past few years, it is no wonder.
g'day John Wilde
Richard Winger wrote:
> I want to defend the national LP press release about the history of what
> happened in Arizona in 2000 concerning the presidential race. What happened
> in Arizona in 2000 was similar to what happened to the Democratic Party in
> Alabama in 1964 and in 1968. The Democratic national convention those years
> didn't seat the delegates from Alabama. So the Democratic Party of Alabama
> refused to list the presidential candidate chosen by the national
> convention. LBJ wasn't on the ballot at all in Alabama in November 1964,
> and in November 1968, Hubert Humphrey only appeared as a minor party nominee
> in Alabama. And the press all reported this, in very similar terms to how
> the LP national office reported what happened in Arizona. It is indisputed
> that the national convention of the Libertarian Party chose Harry Browne.
> Therefore, any state unit of the Libertarian Party which didn't list Browne,
> "splintered" from the national party's choice. Furthermore, delegates from
> the LP of Arizona did attend the Anaheim convention and were seated from
> states like Pennsylvania.
>
> It's traditional in this country that all the state units of a national
> party, respect the choice of the national convention, as to the presidential
> candidate. It's just common language, common ways of describing things, to
> use "splinter" for those rare occasions when the national choice for
> president is rejected by a state party.
>
> The Arizona LP chose L. Neil Smith tentatively on August 6, 2000. The
> Arizona LP didn't turn in his name to the Secretary of State until he
> deadline, September 6, to give the national committee a chance to recognize
> itsstate officers. If the national LP had recognized the state officers,
> Browne would have been listed instead. So, at the time the Az LP chose
> Smith tentatively, it still considered itself affiliated with the national
> LP.
>
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