Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:42:47 -0700
From: spooner@doitnow.com
Subject: [lpaz-repost] ISIL ON BARRICADES
To: spooner@doitnow.com

>From: VincentHMiller@cs.com
>Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:28:40 EST
>Subject: ISIL ON BARRICADES
>To: VincentHMiller@cs.com
>
>Hello friends:
> I think you will agree that the following message is rather
>alarming. I ask that you please read and distribute it to your e-mail
>lists . . . and respond.
> We need to nip this sort of thing in the bud.
>Thanks . . . Vince Miller
>
>
>Subj: [NZNow] Rejected for Libertarianism
>Date: 3/6/01 10:11:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
>From: peron@gonet.co.za (Jim Peron)
>To: NZNow@yahoogroups.com
>
>Is it a crime to be a libertarian? Imagine a world where libertarians
>were banned from moving from country to country because they are
>libertarians? Absurd! Impossible! Well, unfortunately this is one very
>real step closer and your help can prevent this from happening. Here is
>a short explanation of what happened nd a longer one follows it if you
>want more details.
>
>Libertarian writer Jim Peron recently applied to immigrate into New
>Zealand to open up a bookstore,a libertarian publishing house, and to
>work for the International Society for International Liberty His salary
>is paid from outside New Zealand and his venture would only create jobs.
>Yet the application was rejected. Now that alone is nothing since
>immigration officials routinely turn down valid applications. But in
>this case the appraiser of the application launched a tirade against
>ISIL and libertarians in general and made it very clear that
>libertarians should not be welcomed into New Zealand because of their
>political beliefs.
>
>Jim was recently assaulted by armed men who broke into his home in South
>Africa and he was threatened with death. His application to New Zealand
>means he can escape the very real possibility that next time the men
>will pull the trigger. In New Zealand 2 people per 100,000 are murdered
>each year. In South Africa the rate is 61 per 100,000. Violent assualt
>in SA is now 574 per 100,000 people per year. In just a ten year
>period one out of every 15 people either is murdered or has been
>violently attacked in South Africa. To make matters more urgent there is
>now evidence that the men have returned to his home at least once
>attempting to gain entry again. This is not just politics. This is a
>very real life and death issue.
>
>The bureaucrat who declined the application said in her report that
>because ISIL is a libertarian organization this places a question mark
>over the desirability of such an organization, and whether Mr Peron
>would be ineligible for residence because of his association with such
>an organization. She also made it clear that if another application is
>presented that it is also likely to be rejected. She wrote: if any
>future application were received, this matter would need be explored.
>The matter in question is Perons working for a libertarian group.
>
>Now what makes libertarians so evil in the eyes of this woman? She
>listed only four positions. First an ISIL conference had a speaker
>talking about legalizing marijuana. And second ISIL produced a pamphlet
>series which 1. opposed censoring pornography; 2. questioned the
>validity of gun control and 3. supported a bill of rights. Those are
>the positions she lists which proves libertarians are radicals who are
>not desirable for entry into New Zealand.
>
>The report claims that this diatribe against libertarians is ot the
>reason for the rejection but that doesnt appear true. In the report
>the author used her discretionary powers to deny the application. Her
>justification was this:
>
>First: Mr Peron is not a key employee of ISIL since he does not yet hold
>the position in New Zealand that needs to be filled. To get entry into
>NZ he must already be employed. But to be employed he must gain entry
>into NZ. Catch 22. In fact the report quotes the law as saying that a
>key employee is anyone the CEO of the business says is a key employee.
>And the office will not open if Mr. Peron does not get entry. How much
>more key can one be?
>
>Second: She argues that ISIL can not apply as a relocating business
>because it has non profit status in the US. Yet the bookstore in NZ
>would be profit making, so would be the publishing venture. And she
>refuses to divulge any other category under which ISIL could apply. If
>her ruling stands then it would appear that all non profit groups in the
>world are banned from New Zealand. So can this be her actual position?
>Highly unlikely. After all do you think she would stop the Red Cross
>from sending in staff?
>
>Since this ruling was immediately followed by her attack on radical
>libertarians it appears that politics were her actual motive.
>
>This matter is being appealed. We certainly do not want an immigration
>official anywhere to use ones libertarian beliefs as further
>justification for denying entry. This precedent would be dangerous. If
>they can deny immigration on the basis of libertarianism then they can
>also deny tourist visas, etc. Such a precedent, in what is considered a
>free country, could later be expanded and spread. The best thing to do
>is stop it right now.
>
>The matter will be appealed and a member of parliament has been asked to
>look into this ruling. But we want to collect hundreds of emails
>protesting this injustice. These will be submitted along with the
>appeal. So would you please spare a few minutes to do the following:
>
>WRITE YOUR POLITE PROTEST NOW!
>
>1. Write an email protesting this ruling. Keep to the facts of the case
>and be polite. Rude or threatening emails would be detrimental and will
>not be passed on. They will just waste your time and ours. Mention Mr.
>Peron by name and politely ask that the ruling be overturned and that
>ISIL be permitted to transfer him to New Zealand. Address your email to
>New Zealand Immigration Services, To Whom It May Concern. In the subject
>line write Immigration Appeal to speed things up.
>
>SIGN IT AND TELL THEM WHO YOU ARE
>
>2. Please use your real name at the bottom. And state your position.
>If you are a journalist, for instance, state this and mention for whom
>you work. You may include a line saying this is your private position
>and does not necessarily reflect the organization. But let them know
>who you are. If you are a CEO of a company or the head of an
>organization say so. Academics should list at what institution they
>work. This helps give credibility to your views and will counteract the
>claims that libertarians are simply radicals with no credibility. If
>you have a libertarian credential and a real world credential
>please
>use the real world one. In other words put down CEO of Major
Corp. or >Prof. of Economics instead of chairman Podunk Libertarian Club.
>
>SEND ONE COPY TO THESE TWO ADDRESSES
>
>3. Keep it relatively short, Maybe three paragraphs at most. When
>finished email your protest to these two addresses:
> peron@gonet.co.za
> orgnon@ihug.co.nz
>
>We will print out the emails and pass them on as a group.
>
>DONT DELAY YOU MAY FORGET
>
>4. Please do this right now. If you put it off you are likely to forget
>until its too late. Even if this means its short dont wait.
>
>PASS THIS EMAIL ON TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN
>
>5. Take a few minutes and send this email out to as many people as you
>can to help us generate a groundswell of protest. One hundred emails
>may annoy them but one thousand might worry them! And 5,000 could
>terrify them.
>
>
>
>Libertarianism is not a crime and libertarians are not criminals. They
>should not be treated as such and your protest will help prevent this
>from happening.
>
>We need these right away so we can judge our support. And for the
>purposes of the appeal we have until the end of March 2001 to gather
>our protests. So lets get this going right now.
>

Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com


Rick Tompkins

------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-~> Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends! http://us.click.yahoo.com/l3joGB/DMUCAA/4ihDAA/JwNVlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------_->

Community email addresses: Post message: lpaz-repost@onelist.com Subscribe: lpaz-repost-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: lpaz-repost-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: lpaz-repost-owner@onelist.com Web site: www.ArizonaLibertarian.org

Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/lpaz-repost


Visit the Crazy Atheist Libertarian
Check out Atheists United - Arizona
Visit my atheist friends at Heritics, Atheists, Skeptics, Humanists, Infidels, and Secular Humanists - Arizona
Arizona Secular Humanists
Paul Putz Cooks the Arizona Secular Humanist's Check Book
News about crimes commited by the police and government
News about crimes commited by religious leaders and beleivers
Some strange but true news about the government
Some strange but real news about religion
Interesting, funny but otherwise useless news!
Libertarians talk about freedom
1