Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:04:49 -0700 From: spooner@doitnow.com Subject: [lpaz-discuss] Re: keep america free To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Another poor, ignorant ninny attempts to "put Vin in his place." -- Rick
>Hi VIN
>in this article you use the "goose stepping " remark and Hitler took all the
>guns away. we Germans wish you people would not do this any more, because it
>is anti germatism and not true at all. Hitler took the anti gun las over
>from the Weimar republic after WW1 it is they who wanted to relieve the
>people of their guns, and these laws were modified under Hitler. read the
>German weapons law book."Waffengesetze" because the international Jew
>declared war on Germany in 1933, and that communism in Russia was Jewish.
>it is they who were not aloud to have weapons
>please write the truth. we are tired of lies.
>siegfried
Hi, Siegfried --
You're right, up to a point. Hitler and the Nazis only took advantage of the pre-existing German gun control laws, firmed up during the "democratic" Weimar republic (just as Lenin and Stalin inherited from the czars a largely disarmed populace -- a habit of slavery which helped make the Bolshevist slave state equally easy to establish.)
This demonstrates that the problem in Germany was not just the Nazis -- and therefore that it's not an adequate excuse to say "Hitler was a fluke. He fooled us. By the time we realized where he was heading it was too late. ..."
In fact, the German people were well on their way to foolishly embracing a dangerous, liberty-destroying police state long before 1933.
Finally, your clear implication that Germany was not at fault in the war which was launched by the German invasion of Poland in 1939 -- that Germans were only defending themselves from "the International Jew" -- completes the circle, confirming that this problem didn't end in 1945, either.
Here's a little reality check, Siegfried:
There is no "International Jew." The fact that Jewish businessmen choose to conduct business with each other (to the extent that they do) is no more ominous than Korean or Lebanese immigrant families loaning each other money to build their businesses here in the United States, or families from the Indian subcontinent doing the same thing in East Africa. (Read some Thomas Sowell.)
Why did so many Jews gravitate to the banking industry in Europe? Gee, I don't suppose it could be because foolish European economic laws once barred the loaning of money at interest ... a useful ervice, much in demand ... by anyone BUT Jews, could it?
And if a NON-Jewish banker manages to convince my congressman to give him millions in tax loot stolen from my paycheck, which he promptly pours down the black hole of Boris Yeltsin's personal retirement account at Citibank (all "guaranteed by the U.S. taxpayer"), that's somehow OK, so long as no "JEW" was involved?
Give me a break.
The "International Jew" did not declare war on Germany in 1933; did not invade Germany with phantom legions invisible to all but pureblooded Aryans; did not cause the Second World War. Siegfried.
If you want to attribute partial blame for setting the CONDITIONS in which Naziism could easily fester, on various short-sighted economic policies, demands for war reparations, Pollyannish disarmament schemes, boycotts, tariffs, and other poverty-inducing restrictions on free trade and unrestricted commerce, feel free. If some of the folks who promoted those policies happened to be Jewish, or bankers, or Jewish bankers, or even American presidents and State Department dweebs, then by all means give 'em posthumous hell ... individually.
Meantime, you might also ask how many "pure" Germans in the current Berlin government favor sweeping aside all the silly regulations and taxes and fees that plague anyone daring to open a business in Deutschland today without seeking a hundred government licenses and permits -- even going so far as to bar the sale of a toothbrush on Sunday.
But spare me your pitiful racist paranoia. I fight for the liberty of anyone who's willing to grant the liberty of OTHERS, regardless of race, religion, or national origin. You don't have to trade with them, or even like them. But stop looking for someone else to blame for your troubles. The first battle for freedom begins in the breast and mind of each of us.
-- Vin
Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com
"When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926)
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken
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