Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:32:09 -0700
From: carlos@THERIVER.COM ("Carlos A. Alvarez")
Subject: Re: It's about civil disobedience (was Re: The strategy of strawmen)
To: AZRKBA@asu.edu
At 07:18 PM 4/9/00, Don Cline said something to the effect of:
>Why the Dickens this thing didn't add another set of '>' when I hit reply,
>I
>don't know. I hope readers can figure it out.
You are using Microsoft Outlook Express version 5, build 2615, with service
pack 2. The MS internet stuff isn't aways up to standards, but I think
there is a newer service pack with lots of fixes. Check their web site.
>You have reminded me of one thing that is important: I _started_ to say,
>if
>you are insured and traceable, I have no complaints at all. I am reminded
>that it is to a freedom fighter's benefit to be untraceable. But I cannot
Yes, I endeavor to be untraceable. According to a friend of a friend who
is a PI, I've done well at that. As far as hit-and-run, I would probably
never be caught if my ethics permitted me to do it, but they don't. And
besides, I have that insurance to take the personal responsibility
away... (-:
>I consider that to be as much of a detriment to you as it is to
>government.
>When you fight government, you have to hold them to a standard of
>performance under law. You tend to lose arguments when they point out you
>have refused to accept the jurisdiction of the very law you are holding
>them
I want to hold them to the highest laws of the land. I do not care to
argue about statutory law because once you engage them at that level, you
have lost. I refuse to be part of the system not because I think it needs
to be fixed or there are problems with it, but because I think it doesn't
exist. Legally, anyway.
>permitted to oversee the process or evaluate the software, you can bet
>your
>life the vote is rigged.
Exactly. I figured if I brought that up someone would label me an
extremist. Not like that hasn't happened already...
>Is it a secret, or can you say how "foreign" these plates are? I mean,
>are
>they from a foreign country, or are they just ... foreign? Like the plate
No, not a secret. For $235 you too can have them. I've dealt with a
couple of people who broker these out of the Turks & Caicos. There are
also some from Bahamas, and I saw a guy who got a set of Panamanian plates
(expensive). All come with proper documentation also. Since my girlfriend
went to Turks & Caicos island, I was able to verify that at least
everything LOOKS exactly like the official documents and plates used
there. I've heard lots of people say that they are fake and a scam. I
guess there is no way for me to find out for sure (and of course, no way
for the police to either).
>that says "Not Required"? Don't give anything away.
What is that? You mentioned it before. Really just a plate that says "Not
required"? I like the in-your-face attitude. I may have to consider
something like that for those days when I have time to get arrested.
>vehicle is untraceable and has untraceable plates on it you could just hit
>and run and your insurance rates would never go up because your company
Yep. Or I can get tickets and they'll never know about that, either. My
ethics prohibit the former, but not the latter.
>You are going to a great deal of effort to do this, and I think you are
>doing it because (among other reasons) it is FUN to figure out ways to get
Fun in a sense, but more like learning about what is possible. Tossing the
proverbial wrench into the cogs, even if it is just one guy (and everyone I
can educate on the issue). It would be unconscionable for me to feed the
system that I abhor. I had a tough time just getting the IDP, but it was a
compromise I had to make if I wanted to continue to have a life and
business.
>Just remember, if your vehicle had any kind of plates on it, it is now in
>some guvmint computer. They could be watching for you to set up round
>two.
Maybe. I've learned that the foreign plates can't be tracked on the state
computers. I even blew off a ticket once to see what would happen (took
care of it later). The clerk said they can't send it to MVD since it is
foreign. The police tell me they can get absolutely nothing on it, no
matter what. The feds might be different. Parking tickets are
meaningless, even for parking in a gimp space (which I don't abuse).
>the witnesses' stories don't match up, or they appear fearful of speaking
>out, better count your ammo stocks. The bird has just hit the fanjet.
That's already happened, more than once. Damned if I can remember the
specifics. I do remember a couple of police shootings where things never
lined up, but of course, since they police themselves, we know what their
"findings" are.
--
Carlos Alvarez, Tucson, AZ, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
http://www.neta.com/~carlos
"Do you have the right to free speech?"
"Yes."
"Do you own a gun?"
"No."
"Shut up."