T Message #158 (158 is last): Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:10:34 -0700 (MST) From: azsecularhumanists@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: azsecularhumanists@yahoogroups.com
the last ash meeting was in aug 1999 when paula mass from the FIJA or Fully Informed Jury Association spoke on fully informed jury
from march 1999 till the end the ash meetings were run by roberts rules of combat which i think is something invented by paul putz and linda chapman.
ash was pretty much destroyed by paul putz and linda chapman.
after i was elected president in 1999 paul putz ash treasuror ran off with ash's money and linda chapman a former ash board member who was voted off the board ran off with the ash mailing list.
they both tried to have me impeached but never went thru the board meetings as required in the ash bylaws. although mr putz who had control of ash's money did send out a news letter which said i was impeached it was a lie.
i suspect that it angered mr putz and ms chapman when a libertarian who wants to end the drug war and get the government out of peoples bedrooms was elected president of ash.
i suspect that both linda chapman who works for the phoenix police and paul putz whom i beleive was a lifer in the air force (?) are both police state advocates who beleive that when the government says bend over you should ask "how low?" were angered when a freedom loving libertarian was elected president of ash.
if you looking for other atheist groups you may try
hsgp - humanist society of greater phoenix phoenix - meets every 2 weeks in mesa. they have guest speakers and if you dont eat i think its free. most web search engines will find them. maybe 50 people show up here.
aa - american atheists meets 3rd sunday each month at phoenix library. not very large group. last meeting was 3 people down from 6 or 7 prior month. meeting is free. no speakers.
try az_american_atheists@egroups.com http://www.egroups.com/group/az_american_atheists
a new group is being formed i think it will be called Atheists United. it will probably meet 2nd sunday each month with its 1st meeting in aug or sep 2001. they will have guest speakers.
http://www.geocities.com/atheists_united_arizona http://www.geocities.com/atheists_united_arizona
>From: Joseph.Melnick@Honeywell.COM (unknown)
>To: azsecularhumanists@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [azsecularhumanists] Does ASH still meet in the Phoenix area?
>Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:19:13 -0000
>
>
>Fellow Humanists,
>
>I tried to attend an ASH meeting on Sunday, May 13th (Mother's Day)
>at the Phoenix Public Library. No one was present, and the security
>guard could not find ASH on his calendar.
>
>According to the ASH website (at
>http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cathedral/8650) "We also have a
>monthly meeting at the Phoenix Public Library, 400 North Central on
>the 2nd Sunday of the month at 1 P.M."
>
>Does ASH still meet in the Phoenix area? Was May's meeting cancelled
>or moved because of Mother's Day? Is this a joke?
>
>Joe
>
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