Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:35:48 -0700 From: frdmftr@MINDSPRING.COM (Don Cline) Subject: Re: Stink'n Think'n To: AZRKBA@asu.edu
You expect me to give you a history of myself in a message titled "Stink'n Think'n?
Oh, well. Okay. :-)
----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Hancock <ernesthancock@INFICAD.COM> To: <AZRKBA@asu.edu> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Stink'n Think'n
> >Do you vote, Carlos? Here's another news flash: The voter rolls give a
> lot
> >more personal information and require a home street address; if you don't
> >give one you will be stricken from the rolls in the next audit. Do you
> >likewise object to being on the government database for the "privilege" of
> >voting when in fact voting is supposed to be a right?
>
> I object! And working as fast as I can to change this very thing.
Good. If I can be any help, I was "disenfranchised" when the county elections dildo discovered my home of record was a maildrop. I find that amazing when there are name on the voter rolls that belong to the pets of voters -- and the voters don't even know it, and the elections people won't allow an outside audit to clear up the problem.
> Don,
> I am very interested in your history. I think I remember your saying that
> you were 57. But I know little else. Maybe some history would shed some
> light on why you think the way that you do. Example: I just turned 39,
> attended 1 year of college and didn't have enough money to continue (besides
> I knew that business was where I wanted to be and college was a poor
> substitute for the real thing). I've been either a manager, or owner of
> businesses all of my adult life. I know first hand the real cost of
> government regulations and laws and the real effect on safety and public
> health and cost that is passed on to customers in several industries. At
> about the age of 27 I realized just how counter productive government is and
> have been recording and fighting the infringements of my individual rights
> ever since.
>
> From your statements I imagine you to be a product of the state.
Nope. Well, yeah, up until I spent four years in Australia. But not since about six months after I got back.
> This comes
> from many years either in the employ of the government or heavily influenced
> by many years of publicly subsidized education,.... or both. I do not intend
> to be critical should this assumption be correct. I just find it easier to
> be more sympathetic toward you due to the environment that caused your views
> to be so counterto mine. Either way your in my prayers.
Thank you. Okay, if you want to know me, imagine Robert Heinlein without the tuberculosis. I have been a rebel since the day I was born, not against just rules but against *arbitrary* rules. When a rule is of more benefit than it is of detriment, I will support it, and I will support exceptions to it when appropriate. When there are more exceptions to it than benefit, then I advocate changing it.
I grew up in a family that was liberal by default due to their ignorance and lack of education. I joined the military to get away from home, while imagining all sorts of Heinlein-esque military tradition scenarios, and found that the reality is that a peacetime military is nothing but an opportunity for idiots to play ego trips and be unaccountable for it. I was bounced out of the military under honorable conditions because an ex-Jarhead retread sergeant in the Air Force didn't follow orders; a USAF Captain used me without my knowledge to prove it, and the ex-jarhead blamed me for it, eventually causing a Major, a Lt. Colonel, and a Captain to lose promotions over it. The Major was the most irritated of the lot; he wanted to give me a Bad Conduct Discharge, and that was the first time I ever reared up on my hind legs and looked a man in the eye and said "Take your best shot" (you S.O.B.!) He found out he couldn't do that because I hadn't violated any rules, and so the service and I parted company "for the good of the service."
Over the next many years I became a senior RF/Analog technician and learned what feudal government meant by working for a long string of limited-liability corporations who thought they were God's gift to mankind and could do no wrong. During the free-speech riots in Berkeley in the '60's I thought the Communist demonstrators were idiots and got run out of their little enclaves a dozen times because I kept asking questions that tended to reveal the imperfections in their little Utopian fantasies. Yet when a corporate janitor noticed some of their stupid literature in my lunchpack, the word went all the way to the corporate president and down the other side to my boss who fired me on the spot because "I.B.M. will not have that material on our premises!" So much for the right of political free speech among the nobles.
I spent four years in Australia, was married there to my college sweetheart who flew down and joined me, and our daughter was born there in Perth. I found Australia to be fundamentally a communist nation pretending to e socialist, yet not supporting their own pensioners (retired folk) even as well as the U.S. does and certainly not enough to justify the political ideology "socialism", which I was learning to dislike as a fraud upon the people in any event.
After four years we returned to the U.S. intending to work until we could save up enough money to buy a Cheoy Lee 44-foot sloop in Hong Kong and sail around the world, and that dream more or less evaporated in fits and starts as we got caught up in the ratrace. After six months or so stateside we encountered a family living in a motor home who invited us to spend an evening in discussion, and were first exposed to the concept that the Sixteenth Amendment was not ratified, and did not mean what government said it meant in any event. We never saw them again, but this led to research on my part that eventually revealed that not only was something wrong, it was desperately and intentionally wrong and that the wrongs has been orchestrated for decades.
It was a few years after that before it finally dawned on me what is going on in this world and why. I learned that all my life I had been proselytized to reject Communism and Socialism and Fascism and Totalitarianism and Nazi-ism and any other -ism besides Capitalism, which had always been presented as the answer to all problems. And I realized that everyone I knew that professed to favor Capitalism over all other political ideologies were in fact practicing socialism and fascism and communism without their own knowledge. hat was my epiphany; that was when everything fell into place and I realized that what is going on in this world is not a struggle between all these various political ideologies. The apparent struggle is a sham and is carefully orchestrated to control and manipulate the people to keep the quiet ones quiet and to keep the noisy dissenters from making any progress.
The struggle, I discovered, is between Liberty and Feudalism. Call it "liberty and totalitarianism" if you wish; that's the conventional language. But Feudalism is more specific: Feudalism is what we had before the American Revolution. What is going on today is not a revolution; it is a counter-revolution. I have even put it in a tagline I use sometimes; see the end of this post.
We won our sovereign liberty from the power brokers of the world when we won the American Revolution, and we slapped them in the face -- hard. They didn't like it. One year later they established the Illuminati (Weishaupt's bunch) and they have been getting together under one name or another to discuss how the world is to be divvy'd up almost every year since. In 1949 a paper presented at one of their little get-togethers announced they had regained economic control over their colonies (that's us, folks!) in 1913 and they intended to regain political control in the year 2000.
They intend to do it. It now appears, from information I have just received from the Reform Party (of which I am *not* a member) that they will be using China to do it, and Clinton has been their greatest ally since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
They have infiltrated the Reform Party with a bunch of useful idiots to destroy their effectiveness, and they have infiltrated the Libertarian Party with a bunch of useful idiots (Anarchists) to destroy its effectiveness. People have government, Ernie, because they want a little stability in their lives. Government is the worst institution for establishing that, but it is 'way ahead of anarchy. And I do agree with Thomas Jefferson when he said there needs to be a revolution every ten years or so just to keep government aware that it is not invincible.
But if we throw out government altogether, we will be nothing but an over-ripe Mogadishu, Somalia within six months. You say you have come to the conclusion that as a business-person, no improvement can come from government. Except for one little minor point, you sure got that right! The one little minor point is this: You _will_ have government. You will have government you have a say in, or you will have government imposed upon you. You will have government where rights are at least given lip-service to, as in the Bill of Rights, or you will have government with a gunbarrel shoved up your nose.
You will have government based upon the integrity and responsibility of the majority of the people, or you will have government by mob rule, and the leader will be the guy who can motivate the mob and keep them ignorant of the truth.
You will have a nation of law, or you will have a nation of men. We started out as a nation of men, and the power brokers have very nearly completed their destruction. They didn't do it by establishing drivers' licenses or car insurance or demanding taxes to pay for roads. They did it by advocating the idea that there is no need for personal responsibility.
This message has certainly gotten long enough. Let me know if you have any other questions.
> Ernie
-- Don Cline frdmftr@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~frdmftr To all Socialist, Communist, and Marxist Anti-Gunners:
I'll be your huckleberry.
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