Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:24:00 -0500 From: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor) Subject: Polish libertarian Website & Polish Surveillance Fight To: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor)
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From: Jacek Sierpinski <sierp@eternal.net> Subject: Libertarianizm.pl: a new Polish libertarian website Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:31:26 +0100
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Hello, I has created a new website which I planned to be a "web center" for libertarianism in Poland. It has its own domain, libertarianizm.pl, and includes FAQ, essays, articles, freedom-related news and tons of links to libertarian websites from all the world (I think the links may be useful also for people not speaking Polish).
The website: http://www.libertarianizm.pl/
The links: http://www.libertarianizm.pl/katalog.html
There are also pages of newly created Association for Individual's Liberty "Libertarians", the first purely libertarian organization in Poland, on the website - containing photos of some of Polish libertarians (including myself:-).
The Association page: http://www.libertarianizm.pl/stowarzyszenie.html
The photos: http://www.libertarianizm.pl/zdjecia.html
Happy New Millenium!
- -- Jacek Sierpinski sierp@eternal.net PGP key: http://sierp.tc.pl/pgpkey.txt
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------------------------ MAIL FROM LINE-LIST ------------------------ Hello, it's Krzysztof (Christopher) "Critto" Sobolewski from Poland here. Do you want to do something good ? To prevent the draconian surveilance (wiretapping) programme in Poland ??? Modify that letter or not, sign with your normal signature(name, surname, address, what you wish) and SEND it to the two addresses:
MSWiA (Ministry of Internal Affairs and Administration) http://www.mswia.gov.pl e-mail: <wp@mswia.gov.pl> street: ul.St Batorego5 02-591 W-wa (Warsaw), Poland, Europe
Min Lacznosci (Ministry of Communications) http://www.ml.gov.pl e-mail: <webmaster@ml.gov.pl> (webmaster) e-mail2: <rzecznik@ml.gov.pl> (spokesman) street: ul.Stawki2 00-990 W-wa (Warsaw), Poland, Europe
We in Poland are threatened now with the wiretapping system that: 1. will REGISTER *EVERY SINGLE* byte of information going through the Polish net 2. will REQUIRE the ISPs to PAY for that "sophisticated" and bloodily costly system, what may cause small ISPs to fall (bankrupt) 3. reminds things like Carnivore or Echelon, or the last proposed European Convention surveillance system
So please help to root that crap out.
And remember, as ML King said "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice EVERYWHERE!" (to paraphrase him: "lack of liberty anywhere is a threat to liberty EVERYWHERE!"
========= THE BEGINNING OF THE LETTER ===================================== Dear Sir/Madam, as the experienced Internaut and the freedom lover (libertarian), I STABLY PROTEST against the plans to wiretap the Internet, which remind the reality of the book "1984" by George Orwell.
I remind you, that the task of governments is to SERVE their citizenry, and NOT to harass them nor impose heavy administrative costs on them nor to inquisit them everywhere.
Please do not forget, that ALL SUCH projects are vigilantly observed by the world's public opinion, and among others, by the anti-censorship organizations like Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org), Global Internet Liberty Campaign (http://www.gilc.org) and the libertarian organizations, such as Libertarian International (http://www.libertarian.to), Libertarian International Organization (http://www.libertarian.uni.cc), or The International Society for Individual Liberties (http://www.isil.org
Please remember, that THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH THE GOOD INTENTIONS. Even if you wish to combat CRIMINALS, you ARE NOT JUSTIFIED to manage such wiretapping. All the acts that protect human rights PROTECT the right to privacy, too. And, as NOBODY has the right to install a camera in a private flat, NOBODY has that right to install the wiretaps on the Internet.
We, Internauts, are the POWERFUL group. Some of us have detected the "Echelon" system and made it international affair. Others combat the American spying system "Carnivore". Does the Polish government have too few problems to risk the attacks of public opinions, or international lawsuits at, say, European Tribunal of Human Rights in Strasborg (France) ?
And I assure you, that, if such systems come to live, as a Libertarian, I WILL DO ANYTHING THAT IS POSSIBLE, LEGAL AND COMPATIBLE WITH MY MORALTY, TO COMBAT SUCH SYSTEMS AND TO ROOT THEM OUT. And I know, that the POWER OF INTERNET is with me and similiar people. So, I call you to reason once more time!
In the Name of Liberty !!
(your signature(s) here!!!)
Krzysztof (Christopher) "Critto" Sobolewski e-mail :critto@poczta.wp.pl, liberter@poczta.wp.pl www :www.critto.prv.pl, www.libertaryzm.prv.pl http://www.critto.prv.pl/antycenz.zero-cenz-faq.htm -> ZERO TOLERANCJI DLA CENZURY!!! (FAQ) phone :(058) 301-72-50, 0608 114 421 address :ul. Krosna 32/2, 80-857 Gdansk, POLAND, EUROPE
PS. Nie mam nic wspolnego z firmami, na ktorych serwerach mam swoje domeny, strony www i konta e-mail, poza posiadaniem ich u nich ---------- <KILL "ECHELON"> militia anthrax fbi militia militia fbi anthrax delta force roswell waco oklahoma city waco oklahoma city waco oklahoma city ---------- </KILL "ECHELON> PS.1 "Glos Wolnosc poprzez caly kraj wszystkim jego mieszkancom!" PS.2 "Rzad federalny ma byc naszym sluga, nie panem" - Th. Jefferson
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