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An earthly paradise described by Plato in his Timaeus and Critias, that has tantalized and exasperated explorers and romantics ever since. Perhaps drawing on earlier sources, but probably based largely on folk myth, Plato describes Atlantis as an island in the Atlantic west of Gibraltar that was destroyed because of the wickedness of its inhabitants. Many guesses have been made as to its location, and numerous attempts have been made to find traces of its existence.
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America
Mexico
Cuba
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Atlantis as Cyprus
Atlantis in Spain
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Atlantis in China Sea
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Similarly, sites in the Mediterranean such as Thera, Crete, Cyprus, Malta etc fail on account of not
being in the Atlantic Ocean, not being the size of Libya and Asia combined etc.
Sites such as off Cornwall, Heligoland etc again are not
in the Atlantic Ocean opposite the Pillars of Hecules and are not the size of Libya and Asia combined etc.
Antarctica never has had a "crustal displacement" and it has been under ice for hundreds of thousands of years
so there is no remote possibility it could have been Atlantis.
Cuba is in the centre of the overall continents of the Americas, could import the metals from the nearby mainland,
but no sunken rectangular plain exists near the island and no actual evidence of Atlantis exists there.
Mexico, again in the centre of the overall continents of the Americas,
but no rectangular plain exists there.
In fact, no rectangular plain, which is a key feature of Plato's story, exists at any of the locations, except Bolivia.
It may sound strange at first glance to think that Atlantis may have been in Bolivia, but the fact is that it
is the only location which matches all the geographical description given by Plato, and it is not so strange when we find that
all the precious metals described by Plato are found just there, around the edges of lake Poopo which is the inland sea that
the city or volcanic ringed metropolis sank into.
I agree with the words of a professor from Newcastle
speaking on a radio interview where he said, “if a site is to be considered as
the site of Atlantis, then it must reasonably conform to the description of
Atlantis as given by Plato.” At the present time, not only do the majority of sites put
forward as the site of Atlantis not conform to the geographic description given
by Plato, they are virtually the opposite of the description given by Plato. The previous Atlantis Milos conference put forward a list of
24 attributes it considered appropriate for the location of Atlantis. Of these attributes, it can be readily established that the
Bolivian Altiplano conforms to at least 20 and has many more not listed by the
conference. Returning to the points put forward at the previous
conference, I will simply add the answers to the definitions of the conference,
omitting four paragraphs considered irrelevant and adding additional relevant
attributes within the constraints of the size of the essay. 1.”The
Metropolis of Atlantis should have been located where an island used to be and
where parts of it may still exist.” Yes, at Pampa
Aullagas on the Bolivian Altiplano, a volcanic island today on dry land due to
climate change and drying up of the nearby lake or inland sea. 12.
“The destruction of Atlantis was accompanied by an earthquake.” Yes, the volcano has been sunk by earthquakes.
15. “No physically or geologically impossible processes
were involved in the destruction of Atlantis.” The
area is periodically subject to alternating drought and flooding and
destruction by earthquakes. Additionally other unique features
include: 21. “the continent was the way to other
islands and the continent beyond” which means
Asia 22. “the plain was in the centre of the
island mid-way along it’s longest side” (Lee’s
translaton) 23. “the plain was high above the level
of the sea” meaning the Pacific ocean 24. “the plain was a “long elongated
rectangle”. Describes the Altiplano perfectly 25.
“the plain had a smooth and level surface” 26. “they raised two crops per year” due to a system of raised fields with water channels
27. “there were mines of orichalcum” one of these is at Urukilla just south of Pampa Aullagas 28. “gold” at La Joya at the northern end of the lake 29. “silver” at Potosi to the east 30. “tin also at Potosi 31. “the wealth they possessed was so
great that the like will never easily be seen again” it ultimately provided the motivation for the Spanish conquest and
destruction of the native cultures. 32. “five pairs of twin sons” also occurs in Inca legend
33. A Bolivian legend tells of
the destruction of a city submerged in the sea (lake)
34. “Atl” and “Antis” are words of South American origin meaning “water” and “copper”
respectively.
Submitted by J.M.Allen to Atlantis Conference Athens on 12th January 2008
Plato, the man and his story
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Plato's Critias
source of the legend
Plato's statements and a commentary
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translations are published by Penguin (translation by Sir Desmond Lee) and
Heinemann (translation by R.G.Bury)
HISTORIC ATLANTIS IN BOLIVIA
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Such unlikely propositions such as South China Sea and Antarctica have been included for comparison.
They fail immediately on the principal question of being "opposite" or "in front of" the Pillars of Hercules
(Plato at no time used the phrase beyond the Pillars of Hercules,) and Plato actally mentions Atlantis
was at a distant point in the Atlantic Ocean".
2.
“The Metropolis of Atlantis should have had a most distinct geomorphology
composed of alternating concentric rings of land and water.” Yes, at Pampa Aullagas there still exist remains of
concentric rings of land and channels which previously held water.
3.
“The Atlantis should have been located outside the Pillars of Hercules.” Yes, it is outside or “opposite” (Lee’s translation) the
Pillars of Hercules.
4.
“The Metropolis of Atlantis was greater than Libya and Anatolia and Middle East
and Sinai (combined).” Yes, the continent of
Atlantis is South America which is a vast continent.
5.
“Atlantis must have sheltered a literate population with metallurgical and
navigational skills.” Yes, the pre-Columbian
peoples possessed metallurgical skills with gold and gold alloys such as
Plato’s “orichalcum” known in the Andes as “tumbaga” an alloy of gold and
copper. They also used rafts navigated with retractable daggerboards and a
recording device made of knotted cords. Ceramics covered in “proto-sumerian”
writing have also been found.
6.
“The Metropolis of Atlantis should have been routinely reachable from Athens by
sea.” Traces of coca and tobacco have been found in
Egyptian mummies and coca only comes from the Andes.
7. “The Metropolis of Atlantis should have sunk entirely or partly below the
water.” Yes, at Pampa Aullagas the volcano has been
sunk by earthquakes and large parts are still covered in fossilised lake
sediments from the times it was beneath the nearby inland sea.
8.
“The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed 9000 Egyptian years before the 6th
century B.C.” at that time the area was covered by
the inland sea “lake Tauca”.
9.
“The part of Atlantis was 50 stadia (7,5 km) from the city.” yes, Pampa Aullagas is 50 stadia from the inland sea.
10.
“Atlantis had a high population density” Yes, it
had a population density of millions before the conquest.
11. “The region of Atlantis involved the sacrifice of bulls.” Yes, the animals were actually llamas and the ritual of
sacrifice continues to this day. Plato tells us he substituted Greek names for
the originals “to make it more agreeable for his readers”.
13.
“After the destruction of Atlantis, the passage of ships was blocked.” Yes, the nearby lake is now too shallow for modern
navigation
14. “Elephants were present in Atlantis.” Yes, skeletons of mastodons have been found nearby.
16. “Hot and cold springs, with mineral deposits,
were present in Atlantis.” Yes, at Pampa Aullagas.
17. “Atlantis lay on a coastal plain 2000 X 3000 stadia surrounded by mountains
falling into the sea.” Yes, Pampa Aullagas is in
the centre of the level rectangular plain which measures 3,000 x 2,000
Atlantean stades of 300ft (93metres) and it is surrounded by mountains which
Plato said “rose sheer out of the sea to a great height.” On the western side
they fall into the sea, namely the Pacific Ocean.
18. “The rocks in Atlantis were of various colors:
black, white, and red.” Yes, at Pampa Aullagas, easy to verify.
19. “There were canals for irrigation in Atlantis.” Yes, as can be seen on high resolution
satellite images.
20. “Every 5th and 6th year, they sacrificed bulls.” llama sacrifice is traditional on the Altiplano.