Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:51:33 -0000 From: auvenj@mailcity.com Subject: [lpaz-discuss] Re: [lpaz-Pima] The ALP 2001 Convention: The good, the bad, and the ugly To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
--- In lpaz-discuss@y..., John Wilde <rsrchsoc@i...> wrote: > You weren't entitled to a decision on the merits of your claim.
<BIG SNIP>Two questions:
(1) Does the defendant in a criminal trial have to "state a claim" in order to be entitled o present evidence in his/her defense? Can the judge simply rule, "you violated ARS xxxxxx, penalty is 3 years in jail" without hearing any evidence or conducting a trial?
(2) Doesn't the process of booting me off the GovCom more closely resemble a criminal trial than any other legal proceeding? I was accused of violating a bylaw (becoming an officer of another party), and a punishment was meted out (I was removed from the GovCom).
My impression is that you're likening me to a plaintiff, "asking" or something from Liz but failing to state a claim. I wasn't "asking" for ANYTHING. I was the defendant, defending myself from charges of violating a bylaw.
One more thing, please don't misinterpret anything I'm saying as a whine, "It's not fair..." ALP is a private organization. If they want to boot me off the GovCom because I have blue eyes, by any process they choose, that's their right and is as "fair" as needs to be. In my opinion it is simply a bad way to run an organization.
--Jason Auvenshine
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