Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:08:06 -0700
From: edkahn@TheRiver.Com ("Ed Kahn")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-Pima] Re: Anybody home?
To: lpaz-Pima@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-Pima@yahoogroups.com
Jason:
Atta boy!
If we must have separation of church and state, we should also have
separation of charity and state and "art" and state -- for all of the
reasons you cite.
s/ Ed Kahn
-----Original Message-----
From: auvenj@mailcity.com <auvenj@mailcity.com>
To: lpaz-Pima@yahoogroups.com <lpaz-Pima@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: [lpaz-Pima] Re: Anybody home?
>Bob,
>
>I believe Barry's email address is:
>barry@empirico.com
>
>Also, I just sent the attached message to my company's United Way
>campaign coordinator and board members of the United Way who showed
>up for a breakfast this morning. I offer it here, both as a
>discussion starter and as a reminder that sometimes opportunities to
>persuade aren't immediately obvious or overtly political.
>
>---
><SNIP>
>I believe in the United Way approach, which is why I was willing to
>make a personal financial commitment to it this year. My belief was
>reaffirmed this morning by Liz's description of the United Way
>board's commitment to a policy of non-discrimination. I support and
>agree with such a policy. Despite my belief in the value of United
>Way, I would never under any circumstances attempt to force my co-
>workers or my neighbors to give to United Way against their will. I
>hope you would agree. People give to the United Way for many
>reasons, but whatever their motivation the key is that they give of
>their own free will.
>
>Unfortunately, United Way's policy of accepting public funds is in
>fundamental opposition with the rest of their fundraising
>activities. "Public funds" are in fact collected by the force of
>government, regardless of the will of the individuals such funds are
>collected from. Controversies such as the current one surrounding
>the Boy Scouts are but a symptom of accepting money taken by force
>instead of given of free will by the donor. Government money always
>comes with strings attached, both in terms of administration and
>public controversy over how the money is spent. Even though in this
>case I support the policy -- non-discrimination against homosexuals --
> the fact that the government is able to exercise such influence over
>private charities is not good for either the charity or its donors.
>
>As a donor, I urge the United Way both to keep its policy of non-
>discrimination and nevertheless to explore ways to become completely
>independant of public funding. Not only would this reduce the level
>of controversy surrounding the agency, but it is the right thing to
>do in terms of respecting the free will of everyone in our community
>to donate, or not donate, as they alone decide.
>
>--Jason Auvenshine
>
>John Jason Auvenshine
>Global Web Architecture - Deployment
>(520) 799-2263; T/L 321-2263
>
>---
>
>--- In lpaz-Pima@y..., Robert Bushkin <whigdout@t...> wrote:
>> and PS
>>
>> anyone got Barry Hess's email???
>>
>> bobushkin
>
>
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