Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:55:37 -0700 From: geoffb@BEAST-ENTERPRISES.COM (Geoff Beneze) Subject: Re: MY Glendale, AZ PD weapons check Vol II To: AZRKBA@asu.edu
At 7:56 PM -0700 10/15/00, JG Starr wrote: >. Very standard
>traffic stop demeanor. Wanted my weapon more or less first thing (for his
>'protection' so I wouldn't pull it out and shoot him. Yes, that's what he
>said, very matter-of-factly) and we were no where near my vehicle. Okay,
>let's go through the procedure and see what their procedure IS.
I'm afraid I'd probably react to that kind of approach and ask him to put HIS weapon on the car's hood so as to insure that >I< didn't get shot in the process. Given the record of the Valley cops over the past couple of years, that's a MUCH greater danger for you and me than it is for the cops!
>He asked me where the gun was (left vest pocket, in a little velcro'd-in
>sleeve holster [plug for Concealed Carry Clothiers?] "Now I'm going to take
>the gun into my possession, I'm not going anywhere with it, you're not under
>arrest (I should hope not!) yadda yadda. Please turn around." As he
>approached and began to reach for my pocket he seemed to remember "Put your
>hands on top of your head." Pure Bullspit! - but I went along - ammunition
>for later. I wasn't under arrest, but I bet it sure looked like a bust to
>anyone lookin' - or takin' pictures....Is this how Glendale cops are trained
>to deal with ALL citizens who happen to carry?
Pure bullshit, as you say. I'd probably go file and incident report with his chief. If we've got to play their game, by God, we should make sure they play it politely at VERY least!