I fail to see where the oral sex is depicted in Songs. As Solomons chapter 5 represents the culmination I see no part where he says: "I drank from my fountain or I ate from my garden or I drank from my garden." He does however state he ate his honeycomb and honey and drank his wine and milk, before he made comparison that his wife's lips where the honey and her toungue the milk and wine. How is it that he refers this yet completely does not allude that he drank or ate from his garden but instead he came to his garden?

First of all Songs says you can kiss a woman, it also immplies Solomon fondled his wife's breast. I believe those are obviously stated. In fact I couldn't be any clearly stated.

I also find interesting that you still insist in using these verses even when they lack vality. Can you then prove Jews engaged in this practice? Why don't you investigate that seeing as this is after all as many of the forumers stated "Old Testament", perhaps it does not apply to us, as one of them stated.

When I read 4:16 I fail to see any part where his mouth eats from the garden either. As it was stated before SDolomon compares HER whole body with a garden with choice fruits: her lips, her breasts, her neck, he states all her body in metaphors of spices yet the part where her garden is closed and her fountain I never see him drinking from it.

When I read Songs 2:3 again I still fail to see where she gives oral sex to him. What explanation of metaphors do you have here? From what I know trees have their fruits at the top area. Why didnt she say I taste your stem or trun or roots but instead fruit? If it is an apple tree are the fruit of the tree then on the lower part? Now I am confused! What kind of tree is this?

There was a Ms. who couldn't have stated it better. The mouth IS not a sexual organ. Otherwise I would be sexually aroused when I drink, when I eat, when I brush my teeth. Come on now you are smarter then that. Do you get excited by playing with your mouth in contrposition to how you WILL get exited playing with your penis? By that remark IT is the act of kissing which brings passion, why? Because you are giving in to the person you love. Does this mean then you get a raging hard on when you kiss your mom in her cheek? Or do you get a raging hard on when you kiss your girlfriend lightly? You must then possess a special mouth my friend, seeing as it gets and works as a form of sexual excitement.

From your posts I wonder what is more important to you: sex or love. Does this mean you will get marry to base your life in sex? Does this mean if your wife does not do anal you will go look for it elsewhere?

I also find interesting how homosoexual have always found tghat defending oral and anal are part of their identity. Oh you think not? Go ahead and check then. You will be surpised as to how oral was used back then. Since you do not wish to see the Egyptian story go look for the other civilizations then.

By your remarks does it also mean that the same mouth you use to praise the Lord is also to be put as a sexual instrument, even though God designed already our sexual instruments? My oh my how we have fallen...

I also find interesting how instead of having consulted this with God you go ahead and consult it with men. Not only that but if at least you would have posted in a way as to protect your girlfriend I will not have been so appalled. As it stands your action denoted a lot of immaturity. I expected more of you. Although it isnt wrong to consult men you did so in a fashion as to expect hearing the answer you wanted to hear. I found this very convenient.

Do you believe I am worried that my character was attacked by these so called Christians? I say so called because from their arguments I could not deduce a true insight and spritual knowledge in God: for what Christian attacks a persons beliefs, character and identity instead of bringing sound and respectable arguments without need of hostility or insult to a man's intelligence? As I posted God will be my Judge between me and them.

Did you even at least went to investigate the origins of Fellatio? Or did you just sat down and followed suit with the rest of these people? Clearly the Bible does not say, supposedly anything about it, even though the Ms. stated the counternatural actions woman and men did.

By that same token did you even read Ro 1:26-27? According to grammar should it not have been:

"Man performed with man and in the same matter women did too."

But instead goes on the lines of

"Women changed their natural acts to unnatural, in this same form man also changed their acts to unnatural as they began to sleep with men."

What a wierd thing. From what I gather the Bible (as you keep insisting) is straight to the gun and to the point. Oh my, how interesting then that woman changed their natural ways and then men likewise followed boot by using men. Is there ANYTHING natural in putting a penis in a woman's mouth? Does this mean a man can do it with another man? After all they both have the same 'sexual' organs as you stated. Why then will God be against homosexualism? Isn't it because it is an aberration of anything normal? Perhaps you can also study what origins of homosexuality may have had and how it affects sex.

By this token do you feel less man because you cannot get oral sex if you marry? Should I feel less man about it? In what way is sex with the person you love going to be boring? If it is boring then you are seeking in flesh and not in true love. You are seeking in passion, not in satisfying your wife. Did you even stop to consider that when the verse says the woman body belong to the man and the man body belong to the woman? From grammar it would imply sex is not a selfish act. But instead an act where you give to her and she gives to you.

Then how oral is supposed to be an unselfish act? Oh wait yes you can use 69 right? And by doing this you use your mouth even further as a sex organ. Then illustrate it to me, show me in the Bible where God or anywhere depicts the mouth as a sex organ too.

Do not get me wrong I would have sympathised with you a long time ago as I mentioned to you. But thanks to you and every forumer plus what I looked up my conviction is strong. For the world rejects always that which is truth and loves to accept that which is lie. I find it sad Christians have reverted to imitating the world instead of the other way around. And as history states it doesn't say Jews started oral but egypt. And egypt has always represented the world. How sad indeed...