Babble v1 165

babble-digest Wednesday, January 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 165

In this issue:
slicing up images...
duH!
Viruses?
Re: found a remedy for navigator problem
Re: babble-digest V1 #162
subject lines and replies
my windows are spawning satan...
repeats..sigh..
Re : Bug in Netscape: in which conditions?
onMouseover StatusBar and Dreamweaver

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:27:54 -0500
From: Tari Akpodiete <tari@sympatico.ca>
Subject: slicing up images...

Here is an excellent tutorial slicing up images in Photoshop...

http://www.andyart.com/photoshop/ps_36.htm

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:59:18 -0700
From: Trope newMedia <trope@teleport.com>
Subject: duH!

dear babblicious

got a design question - i'd like to use some background schematic drawing
like the stuff used here: http://www.mercedes-benz.com/

first off, is there a name for that kind of art? some esoteric designer
speak i'm not familiar with ? secondly, are there formal resources for that
sort of thing ? did they draw it in illustrator maybe? i've found lots of
old books and stuff with that kind of art - do others just scan old stuff
in ? what would you do it you wanted to design something like this?

thanks /.

jeff faulkner

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:37:21 +0100
From: Pascale Camus-Walter <camwal@cybercable.tm.fr>
Subject: Viruses?

Babble digest 161 ------> is really the most indigest post I'v got since a
couple of days (wwweeks, months...).

What means this sudden drop of quality and ** too ** frequent old posts and
other pages full of +ù*`°)-&# in the babble list?

Viruses? Hackers?
War against design!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:21:12 -0500 (EST)
From: c l a r a s o h <clara.soh@yale.edu>
Subject: Re: found a remedy for navigator problem

sorry to flog the dead horse, then but...

i was having this problem also and ended up installing over the local
network from a friends computer. i tried going to other browser archives
but IE seemed to be able detect any kind of enemy download. weird.

so...

> in regard to the issue of downloading navigator via ie, PROBLEM SOLVED .

... and your solution was?

clara

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:36:31 -0600
From: vince burkhead <vince@icon-stl.net>
Subject: Re: babble-digest V1 #162

>question:
>I prefer writing html by hand, but sometimes whipping up some pages can be
>done quickly in one of these wysisyg editors. I've tried a lot of them, but
>am disappointed with the results - they all make garbage of your carefully
>written html. So far, the one that seems to do the least damage is
>Symantec's Visual Page, but I was wondering if any of you have any good
>experiences with other progs & can recommend me one for mac and/or windows.
>
>cheers,
>
>Caroline
>'Through it all she offers me protection
>a lot of love and affection whether I'm right or wrong
>I'm loving angels instead' - Robbie Williams

Caroline,

Download the 30 day demo for GoLive Cyberstudio at www.golive.com and check
it out. I am all Mac, and the drag and drop interface is welcomed, in fact,
this software was designed to capture the Mac user specifically. It has a
"project" approach to large web site mangement, HTML and webobjects
database built-in. It breaks down Javascript and applets for you.
Simultaneous multiple FTP server upload, too. It has a 3-D site fly-thru
mode I haven't used yet. It is a fairly high-end and deep site management
program that has done very well in the reviews AND is plugged by the
creative geniuses at "ADJACENCY" out of San Fran, CA (if you are not
familiar, read Segal's "Secrets of Successful sites") Also a good resource
is "Creating Killer Interactive Web Sites" by ADJACENCY, which is where
they recommend GoLive Cyberstudio. See their work using GoLive at:
www.adj.com/killer They are doing something right... Luck in all your HTML
endeavours...

Vincent Burkhead
7526 Delmar Blvd., U-City, MO 63130
home: vince@mail.icon-stl.net
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"don't start vast projects
with half-vast ideas."

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 98 21:03:18 -0500
From: Kevin Travers <kwt@highfive.com>
Subject: subject lines and replies

Hello Babblers!

Great to see all the activity on the Babble List ... what a great
resource. We all get a lot of mail, so lets do our best to have
descriptive subject lines ... (RE: Babble Digest #34 doesn't cut it! :)
This makes going through the mail a lot quicker. If you see a subject
line that reads ... "RE: DHTML problems!" but don't want to read up on
DHTML right now, you can file it or delete it. Just be descriptive.

also, I'm seeing a lot of *long* replies, like entire digests trailing
behind the actual message. You should only have the relevant info in your
reply message.

thanks for helping to keep the great info flowing ... see you on the list!

(notice 4 line sig file ... *ahem* :)

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:59:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Newell <matt@ns.qnis.net>
Subject: my windows are spawning satan...

pick it, flick it, just help me out a lil...

it creates the window just fine... but ie 4 gets cranky and irks up a
error. :|

heh. any help would be appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:32:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Newell <matt@ns.qnis.net>
Subject: repeats..sigh..

i would think im not the only person getting repeats of past posts..

listserve... *please* look into it. *please?*

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:45:07 +0200
From: Hanan Cohen <hananc@bashan.co.il>
Subject: Re : Bug in Netscape: in which conditions?

We had this problem with pages created on the fly like database search
results.
Because we publish our work in Hebrew we HAVE to add the Meta line in
our templates to identify the content as Hebrew.
But the cgi program also adds this line after the http header. So it
came out that the problem was due to double meta lines. And that what
caused Netscape to reload the pages twice.
I don't know if this is exactly your problem but I hope it gives you
direction.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 01:08:29 -0600
From: "Steven W. Jarvis" <sjarvis@dicksonstreet.com>
Subject: onMouseover StatusBar and Dreamweaver

Hey Babblers,

I've been playing with the 30day demo of Dreamweaver,and---so far---I
think it rocks. For me, getting used to WYSIWYG designing of web pages is
the problem. I'm so used to code, code, code, preview, code,code,code,
preview, ad nauseum, that just laying things out (well, almost) is sorta,
well, weird, despite the fact that use Pagemaker nearly every day.

Anyway, I think I broke Dreamweaver. I've got some navigation GIFs that
I want to add onMouseover status bar descriptions to ---JavaScript 101
stuff. Since Dreamweaver (and, as an aside, ain't that name a little
pretentious?) can generate that stuff automagically, I did some with it.
It created a too-complex (for my taste) function-based script instead of
just sticking the little bit of js in the tag. Now I can't get the
statusbar descs to show in Nav 4.04 MacOS. (As another aside, Nav 4.04
won't acknowledge that a linked image is linked if it gets
accidentally---or on purpose either, I imagine---put in a <P> </P> tag).
The js portion of my brain seems to think the js is OK, but Nav says
"uh-huh." Any bright ideas?

Cheers,

Steve

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