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<thefoos> are we it?

 <mominator> thefoos, we are but three of 11

 <mominator> ok, vikki, then you shall be our secretary and post our logs.

 <thefoos> is it worth continuing tonite with just 3???

 <Vikki> others might come a bit later 

 <thefoos> i can stay till 8:30

<thefoos> i'm starting a 2nd career in real estate and plan to put up a web site

<thefoos> i thought it would be a good idea to share web knowledge

 <thefoos> and mix it with some business sense to 

 <thefoos> come up with a winning formula that takes advantage of

 <thefoos> technology and marketing skills. (whew - sorry)

<mominator> either of you have a business site up yet?

 <Vikki> I've got one up but it's not in the search engines yet...

<thefoos> okay..how about the class project..shall we work as a group?

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 <mominator> do you have a business web site up 

 <paull> no

<paull> I have a hobby page

 <mominator> are you hear to learn

 <paull> yes

<Vikki> thefoos -I like the idea of putting up a group site for class

 <thefoos> mominator, you've got a biz page, right?

<paull> I have a friend who wants me to do a biz page

 <paull> for her--booking agent

 <mominator> so how much longer shall we wait?

 <Vikki> We're not waiting mom... we're getting to know each other. :)

[ <thefoos> how did you design your pages to attract and retain your customers?

 <mominator> i have three but i don't know everything!!!!

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<thefoos> okay guys (non-gender specific) - can we go through the questions 
mom sent us - looks like a good

starting point...

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 <mominator> rdnckbill we were forming a group

 <mominator> do you have a business web site up

 <rdnckbill> in the works

<mominator> not up yet?

<rdnckbill> wel the first page is up http://www.wallace-inc.com

<thefoos> sorry folks, gotta go...hope next session is more productive..

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<mominator> now, vikki do you have an ides

 <paull> what kind of page?

<Vikki> I think George may have some ideas on that...

<mominator> a group page ( i think that is what george wanted

 <paull> since this is a biz group a biz page?

<mominator> yes

 <Vikki> I hadn't given it much thought but I know I'd like to do it if we can 
come to a consenses (SP?)

<mominator> i believe we can do one of two things

 <mominator> we can either work as a group or as individual

<mominator> for our class assignment

 <Vikki> What I've gathered is that we must have an individual gallery page...

 <Vikki> and then pick from two other assignments..

 <Vikki> research or group web page

 <paull> that's my take on it

 <mominator> i believe that is where we keep our resources

 <Vikki> I'd rather do the group web page

 <mominator> i would too

 <paull> might learn more

 Vikki nods her head I'm for learning as much as possible

 <mominator> well, actually i invited eagle too and she also

 <mominator> knows alot about rapidaccess and stuff like that

 <Vikki> rapidaccess?

 <mominator> well if we do a group page will it be commercial?

 <Vikki> We could set it up as a template for a business site?

 <mominator> rapidaccess is a program that i have been looking at

 <paull> could be a prototype

 <mominator> yes

 <mominator> and the rapidaccess tracks your site and delivers

 <mominator> daily emails with the total of visitors

 <mominator> and the last place they were

 <mominator> and the next place they go

 <Vikki> uses cookies?

 <mominator> and create logs and profiles of your visitors

 <mominator> no i don't think so.

 <mominator> i think it "sucks" info while you see it

 <mominator> but not a script that you have to accept

 <Vikki> so do visitors know it's there?


 <paull> so you don't need server sides?

 <mominator> nope/yes

 <mominator> well, how shall we proceed

 <paull> maybe determine what kind of business?

 <mominator> ok, how about this

 <mominator> maybe we can ask george to send a file

 <mominator> paull what kind of business

 <paull> I don't have a definate view

 <mominator> ok, then just a template

 <mominator> we could do research

 <Vikki> yes...

 <mominator> and find what templates woprk best

 mominator says for me i have used front page

 mominator three successfull sites

 <Vikki> I make my own templates in front page most of the time

 <Vikki> what are your url's mom?

 <mominator> i have found that no matter what site you have, the most important thing

 <mominator> is your meta tags and the search engine subbmittals

 <Vikki> yes.. if ppl can't find you, they'll find someone else

 <mominator> it takes alot typing but when the search engine submittals kick in

 <mominator> oh baby

 <Vikki> that is why mine isn't submitted yet. I haven't put enough time into meta tags

 <mominator> well, just get it up there!

 <mominator> you can always go edit later

 <mominator> ah that brings us to another topic

 <Vikki> I've printed text files on meta tags and how different search engines work

 <mominator> gee this could be a course

 <mominator> the next topic is

 <mominator> what kind of editor/ftp service shall you choose

 <mominator> if you choose to ftp

 <mominator> you always have the options of editing on you hard drive and just ating

 <mominator> if you choose and editor that is built right into the site 

 <mominator> ]like the goecoities and the xoom sites

 <paull> I have only used ftp

 <mominator> you can edit all day long unitl your hearts content

 <mominator> one letter at a time but.....

 <mominator> you can not change your headings and your frames boarders

 <mominator> which are a a very important part of your site because... ah another 

<mominator> topic....

<mominator> i have found that it is very important to keep all the pages in your
 site with the samer

 <mominator> same baorder wo that visiters know that they are still 

 <mominator> within your site

 <Vikki> continuity...

 <mominator> yes

 <mominator> if they get lost

 Vikki nods her head emphatically

 <mominator> especially if they accidently find there way into a dead end

 <mominator> they can never get out

 <mominator> and they never come back

 <mominator> and they get amd and send you nasty email

 <mominator> so another toopic

 <mominator> always check you links!

 <mominator> i check my links at least once a week

 <paull> do you use a validator?

 <Vikki> I haven't checked them that often but I do check 'em :)

 <mominator> not yet

 <mominator> i want to learn more

 <Vikki> linkexchange's site inspector

 <Vikki> as well as front page to validate links

 <paull> I used site inspector a few times

 <mominator> i use front page for everything

<mominator> i have vowed to do this by hand this time

 <Vikki> I've done that too...

 <paull> I like that best

 <paull> more control

 <Vikki> sometimes site inspector or front page will tell you a link is bad but
 when you check it manually, it's

fine...

 <mominator> yes, but in all fairness

 <mominator> i must say i put up my sites and 

 <mominator> made money

 <Vikki> u gonna give us your url's so we can see the money makers mom?

 <mominator> ok.

 <mominator> http://www.unimognet.com/

<mominator> http://www.armynavystuff.com/

 <mominator> http://www.picture-car.com/

 <Vikki> thanks :)

 <mominator> well you will see, i have two army navy stores

<mominator> and a truck business

 <mominator> and because i have two "hard" locations

 <mominator> the websites have been for me

 <mominator> a color brochure

 <Vikki> yes... great idea

 <mominator> i am here to learn how to make my sites better

 <mominator> soooooo

 <Vikki> hopefully, we'll be able to come up with ideas betwen all of us

 <mominator> i can teach you guys how to get yours up

 <Vikki> sounds good to me

 <mominator> so what kind of page will we create?

 <Vikki> my site url is http://members.xoom.com/VikkiB/

 <Vikki> I'd appreciate any feedback.. no frames, just tables...

 <paull> I know beer: http://www.netins.net/showcase/homebrew/

 <Vikki> Can we create a template that could be used by any of us for a business site? 

 <Vikki> or should we concentrate on a design for a specific business?

 <mominator> i think a templae

 <paull> if a template will qualify for the class

 <mominator> or the business of business!

 <paull> I think that is what I favor

 <mominator> business of business?

 <mominator> paull

 <paull> a template

 <mominator> vikki?

 <Vikki> we could put sample stuff in the template

 <Vikki> yes

 <mominator> yes

<paull> an order form?

 <Vikki> the idea "business of business" has potential for sample material in the template

 <Vikki> I think an order form is a good idea

 <mominator> yes and and online chat button

 <mominator> or an email listing

 <mominator> the latest advertising says that 

<mominator> the big attraction lately in cyberland is

<mominator> email lists and chat right from the site.

 <Vikki> as many forms of contact as are valid

 <paull> as in java chat?

<mominator> yes java

 <mominator> yes, i put email at the top and at the bottom of each page

<Vikki> but for chat to be effective, you'd have to post times when someone would be online...

<mominator> yes my husband wants me to do this

<paull> what about the bulleton board/forums?

 <mominator> no, for my husband, he wants an hour once a week so he can

 <mominator> take questions and give answers about the truck



 <Vikki> Sounds like a good idea for the trucks mom

<Kayroller> Which HTML are you doing 1 2 or 3

 <mominator> we are here trying to start a study group for building a business web site

<Kayroller> oh that sounds good

 <Kayroller> I have a webpage for the Disabled for fun and info
 <Vikki> what's the url Kay?

 <Kayroller> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/bluffs/4800

 <Vikki> where is your personal page Kay?

 <Kayroller> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/2821

<mominator> well vikki what shall we do about the others?

<Vikki> did anybody let you know they couldn't make it tonight mom?

<Vikki> I think we should go with the ones who came tonight mom...

 <mominator> ok george

<Vikki> and ghatten since she emailed you

 <mominator> paull

<Kayroller> sometimes when you start it is hard to get interest to keep going

 <Vikki> if others want to come and talk, that's fine but the group working 
on the page will be those that were

here tonight?

<mominator> yes we lost three

 <mominator> yes Vikki

 <Vikki> others could form their own groups for project if they're interested in it I guess

 <mominator> so it is us...me,you,paull,george

 <mominator> rdncbill?

 <mominator> he had a site up 

 <Vikki> I'm not sure why he left... didn't say anything

 <Vikki> I guess if he comes back, he should be included 

 <Vikki> I guess we'll find out who will work well together

 <Vikki> some personalities go better together :)

 <Kayroller> so true

<mominator> well, us...me you george and paull who else?

 <Kayroller> you will know very well next week you may have more 

 <Vikki> ok.. so 4 of us

<mominator> ok vikki

<mominator> ok, just us four and ghatten

 <mominator> i'll make email

<Vikki> yes.. I think that's a good size

<mominator> yes me too:)