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I don't know if there's any likelihood to this at all, but I thought I better mention it just in case. There is a negative astrological configuration that wil occur a few hours from now that might coincide with some sort of negative international event(s) in the hours and/or days to come. But before I get into the dirty details of what we're looking at here, let me discuss my general views concerning "astrology".
As overviewed in my articles on "Kremlin Astrology" (see below ), during recent years there has been a significant correlation between important astrological configurations and major international events in Russia, the Middle East (particularly concerning Iraq), the Balkans and Korea. There are two possible explanations for why such a correlation would occur: 1. Certain governments, most likely at Moscow's behest, are shaping history according to astrology and/or 2. Events correlate with astrological configurations because there is some truth to astrology. I think the answer is a mix of both of these possibilities.
As for the possibility that certain governments are shaping history according to astrology, there are precedents to believe this might be happening. For instance, Adolph Hitler was known to have planned his military campaigns and major moves during the second world war according to astrology (See, for instance, Wilhwelm T. Wulff's 'Zodiac & Swastika; How Astrology Guided Hitler's Germany', 1973). Also, many modern-day world leaders like Slobodan Milosevic, Ronald Reagan (because of their wives) and Princess Diana are known to have used astrology to plan their political and personal lives. Thus, if there are governments such as in Moscow that were deceptively planning for, and underhandedly shaping world history toward, something as immense as a nuclear third world war, the use of astrology in such long- term planning and historical manipulation would not be surprising. Such psychotic world leaders would use anything they could get their hands on that they thought might influence the masses and move history in their strategic favor.
While the use of astrology in an occultic fashion by diabolical, antichristian world powers is one explanation for a correlation between key astrological configurations and major world events, this does not account for some of the correlations I've observed. For instance, the correlation of lunar eclipses with the major Jewish holidays over the past two years and the surprising arrival of two bright comets, both of which appear to signify the coming destruction of Israel, are not something any human world governments could have brought about.
See http://www.jvim.com/IntelligenceBriefing/jun1997/cover.html
Also, consider this remarkable, recent example of astrological phenomena. The name "Diana" means "Goddess of the moon". Incredibly, the two greatest tragedies in the life and death of Princess Diana coincided precisely with eclipses of the moon, i.e., when the moon's light was shadowed....when Diana's ("candle"!) light was darkened. Princess Diana's divorce from Prince Charles was announced in the Houses of British Parliament on a lunar eclipse and Princess Diana's late-night car accident and death occurred at the time of a lunar eclipse. Once again, it is doubtful any world government was involved in creating such a profound coincidence. (One might also note that Princess Diana's death was predicted by the French astrologer and prophet Nostradamus- see article below).
On top of the examples above, I have also noted a strong correlation between planetary alignments and major turning points in the stock market. A prime example of this was the August 1987 top in the stock market and subsequent October crash. The top in the stock market precisely coincided with a new moon, 5-planet alignment just after the August 17th, 1987 "Harmonic Convergence"- an extraordinary cosmic event that had astrology buffs humming all around the world. The October 1987 stock market crash followed this top and precisely started with a lunar eclipse on October 7th, something forecast quite precisely by the "Spiral Calendar" lunar-cycle theory of swings in stock prices and mass mood (contact Elliott Wave International for more information on the Spiral Calendar).
Given observations like above, clearly there is a scientific basis to astrology, i.e., there is some "truth" to it. This truth could only be so if it is by God's design; symbolic synchronicity between astronomical and world events exemplifies and reflects the Creator's will in almost a supernatural fashion. Remarkably, this is one truth both Science and the Church would agree is *not true*....indicating it is probably one of the most important truths one can discover!
But regardless of what truth there is to astrology, it is possible that knowledge of such truth could be misused and abused. Those who look to the stars instead of God for guidance and grace in their lives are likely misled. More frightening, it appears that powerful human leaders like Hitler seek to take on the role of God and create history according to their own selfish wills using astrology as their guide and/or tool. This is where the occult and Satan is involved, when evil forces seek to replace and supercede the will and power of God with their own evil wills and worldly manipulations.
It is the latter potential abuse of astrology that might be a concern at the current juncture. In a few hours, the moon is going to come into conjuntion with the Mars, the planet of war and violence, and Pluto, the planet of extremism, death, manipulation and, most frighteningly, nuclear energy (just think of the word "Pluto"nium).
Astrological chart for 10/06/1997 +-------<11>27Leo48----<10>27Can54-----<9>29Gem59-----------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | <12>29Vir59----|-----------------------------|----- 2Gem04<8> | | | | | | Astrolog (4.10) chart | | | | Mon Oct 6 1997 2:00am | | | | -05:00 0:00W 0:00N | | <1> 2Sco10-----| Placidus Houses. |----- 2Tau10<7> | | Julian Day = 2450727.79 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | <2> 2Sag04-----|-----------------------------|-----29Pis59<6> | Plu 3Sag38 | | | | | Moo 4Sag19 | | | | | Mar 5Sag11 | | | | | | | | | +-----------29Sag59<3>-----27Cap54<4>-----27Aqu48<5>--------+ |
This is what an astrologer on my mailing list wrote to me about the upcoming event:
Some related information can be found at-
http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/1997-10.html
(Arch Crawford, financial astrologer)
Thus, in 1990, when Mars and Pluto squared the moon going into lunar eclipse (Mars and Pluto were in opposition), Iraq invaded Kuwait. Now that the moon is going align with a conjunction of Mars and Pluto (Mars and Pluto were in precise conjunction on Friday, the U.S. ordered an aircraft carrier to hurry to the Persian Gulf), it will be interesting to see if Saddam's Iraq, or maybe even Iran, stirs a new crisis in the Persian Gulf. Then again....there's Russia, Bosnia and Korea to keep an eye on...
The use of astrology by powerful dictators to make key decisions and time important moves did not stop with Babylonian Kings, however. It is now widely recognized that Adolph Hitler used astrology to guide his important moves. Hitler shaped his political moves and foreign policy decisions, like the timing of military campaigns in waging the second world war, according to the stars. (See, for instance, Wilhwelm T. Wulff's 'Zodiac & Swastika; How Astrology Guided Hitler's Germany', 1973).
Today the evil dictators and conquerors of the world are again relying on astrology to guide their moves. Specifically, *Gorbachev's* Russia (I believe Gorbachev is still the leading figure behind the scenes in Moscow today), Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the other authoritarian powers of the East are likely using the stars to guide a multi-year plan to militarily destroy the West and thereby conquer the world. Thus, upon close examination, one finds that almost all of the key events in Russia, Iraq, the former-Yugoslavia, Chechnya, so on and so forth, over the past decade have coincided with significant, relatively rare astrological configurations. (Note that the leadership of the "opposing" factions in places like the former- Yugoslavia and Chechnya are former Communist elite. Thus, no matter how much the opposite may appear to be the case, they are still likely receiving their orders from the Kremlin. That the Kremlin may control all sides of "staged" conflicts in places like the Chechnya was revealed by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn in his book 'New Lies For Old'.)
So that the use of astrology by the Kremlin and authoritarian powers of the East is clear, please consider the following examples of where key events coincided with significant, rare astrological configurations:
1. *April 24th, 1986: Total eclipse of the Moon conjunct Pluto.
The following evening the Chernobyl disaster, which was likely no accident but rather a sick experiment to garner knowledge for fighting a nuclear war, occurred in the Ukraine.
Notably this configuration involved the planet Pluto which is supposed to represent explosive events and nuclear technology ("Pluto" is the root of the world "pluto"nium).
2. *July 22nd, 1990: Total solar eclipse.
Marked when Iraq began massing forces on the Kuwaiti border just prior to the 1990 invasion.
3. *August 2nd thru 7th, 1990: Lunar eclipse squares Mars and Pluto.
In the Market Watch section of the July 16th, 1990 issue of 'Barron's', there is an excerpt from the newsletter of financial astrologer Arch Crawford. It reads in part:
"...Aug. 6 (Lunar Eclipse squares Mars + Pluto). Expect some major catastrophe on that last one, Aug. 2-7, as something explodes in a big way... Astronomically similar to the Chernobyl disaster..."
On August 2nd, Iraq invaded Kuwait precipitating the Persian Gulf crisis.
4. *January 15th, 1991: Solar eclipse with rare 6-planet alignment in Capricorn (note: in astrology the Sun and Moon are considered planets).
January 15th, 1991 was the U.N. deadline for Iraq to pull-out of Kuwait before the allied attack a day later- the beginning of the Gulf War.
According to an ancient Babylonian prophecy, "when all the planets meet in Capricorn the world will be destroyed by fire". In January of 1991, there was a six-planet alignment in Capricorn, and Venus, Jupiter and Pluto were heavily aspected in Capricorn and in tension with each other. Thus, from the perspective of someone in Iraq and the site of ancient Babylon, their "world was destroyed by fire" exactly as forecast in this astrological prophecy (see Moira Timms' 'Beyond Prophecies and Predictions', pp.206 & 209).
5. *June 26th, 1991: Lunar eclipse of lunar/solar eclipse pair. Also, Pluto was squared (90-degree angle) by an alignment of Venus, Mars and Jupiter.
Marked the beginning of the civil war in Yugoslavia.
6. *August 19th, 1991: Alignment of Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter in the zodiac sign of Leo.
A failed coup attempt by communist hardliners is staged in Moscow which supposedly brings an end to the Communist Party and Soviet Union.
7. *December 21st, 1991: Lunar eclipse on the winter solstice.
The Soviet flag comes down and the Russian flag is raised over the Kremlin as the Soviet Union is officially disbanded.
A few days after this, on Christmas day (?!), Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev resigned.
8. *June 30th, 1992: Solar eclipse of lunar/solar eclipse pair. This eclipse was aligned with Venus, Uranus and Neptune and sextiled (60-degree angle) Mars and Jupiter.
First U.N. forces arrive in Sarajevo as Western military intervention in the former-Yugoslavia begins.
9. *October 4th, 1993: Pluto conjunct Moon squares (90-degree angle) Saturn and trines (120-degree angle) Venus, Uranus and Neptune.
Political chaos erupts in Moscow following Russian President Boris Yeltsin's disbanding of the former-Soviet parliament.
10. *December 13th, 1993: Alignment of Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars in Sagitarrius.
Communists and Nationalists win the elections for a new Russian parliament. Of particular surprise is the success of the "Liberal Democratic Party (?!) led by Hitler-like nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky.
11. *January 12th, 1994: Rare seven-planet alignment in Capricorn (five planets and the sun and moon). Tightest alignment of seven planets in 300 years.
U.S./Russia summit at which the superpowers sign an agreement to no longer target each other with nuclear weapons.
Alignment also coincides with increased Serb shelling of Sarajevo and a NATO summit meeting at which the Western allies agree to use force in the former-Yugoslavia. Within a month the first NATO ultimatum was issued for the withdrawal of Serb heavy weaponry from around a Sarajevan "safe-zone".
12. *November 18th, 1994: Lunar eclipse of solar/lunar eclipse pair. Eclipse is aligned with Pluto and Jupiter, squares (90- degree angle) Mars and trines (120-degree angle) Uranus and Neptune.
Croatian Serb warplanes bomb the U.N.-protected Bihac enclave in violation of a NATO-enforced "no-fly zone". NATO responds by bombing Serb positions. This is the first major use of military force against the Serbs by NATO in the Balkan conflict and the first offensive military action ever taken by NATO in the 45-year history of the alliance.
13. *December 11th, 1994: Mars squares conjunction of Pluto & Jupiter.
Russia invades the breakaway republic of Chechnya.
14. *April 29th, 1995: Solar eclipse of lunar/solar eclipse pair. Eclipse squares Neptune and Uranus.
Croatian Serb warplanes bomb the U.N.-protected Bihac enclave in Bosnia in violation of a NATO enforced "no-fly zone" once again. The Balkan war heats-up as a five-month cease-fire comes to an end.
(Notably, this was the first eclipse pair subsquent to the pair in November of 1994 which marked the only other time Croatian Serb warplanes bombed Bihac- both before and since.)
15. *June 14th, 1995: Mars squares alignment of Mercury, Venus and and Jupiter.
Similar to configuration on December 11th, 1994 when Russia invaded Chechnya. This time, a large group of Chechen rebels attack a town in southern Russia and take several hundred patients hostage at a hospital. The incident ends violently with hundreds of Russians killed.
16. *July 12th, 1995: Alignment of Sun, Moon, Neptune and Uranus trines (120-degree angle) Mars and sextiles (60-degree angle) Saturn and Pluto.
Russian President Boris Yeltsin reportedly suffers a heart attack while Bosnian Serb forces overrun the U.N.-protected enclave of Srebrenica.
17. *October 24th, 1995: Mars and Pluto conjunct total solar eclipse.
Russian President Boris Yetsin suffers a second heart attack since which he has still not recovered.
18. *November 22nd, 1995: 7-planet alignment of Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Pluto in Sagitarrius.
Serbs do a total about-face and reach a peace agreement with Bosnian and Croatian representatives at peace talks in Dayton, Ohio. Some 60,000 NATO troops start heading into the former- Yugoslavia to take over the peace-keeping mission from the United Nations.
19. *December 21st/22nd, 1995: Clustering of all planets in or near Capricorn around the time of the winter solstice.
Communists and nationalist win Russian parliamentary elections.
20. *January 15th, 1996: Moon squares alignment of Earth, Sun, Mercury, Mars and Uranus.
Russian forces storm Chechen rebels holding hostages in southern Russia.
21. *February 26th, 1996: Sun conjunct Mars T-squares Pluto and the moon, which are in opposition (180 degrees apart).
Configuration is similar to the one that marked when Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990. Notably, February 26th is also the fifth anniversary of Kuwait's liberation from Iraqi occupation and the end of the Gulf War.
Wave of terrorist bombings against Israel occur starting February 25th as the Arabs begin to unravel the false peace that has been established in the Middle East.
22. *April 3rd, 1996: Total lunar eclipse conjunct Mars and squared by Jupiter.
North Korea pulls out of the Korean War Armistice and then carries out a series of provocative armed incursions in the Demilitarized Zone separating the two Koreas.
The twenty two developments above might be key steps in a ten-year plan (at the least) Russia has been carrying-out to open the way for a surprise third world war against the West.
Chernobyl was likely some sort of sick experiment to garner knowledge and do applied tests of skills and technology necessary to fight a nuclear war.
Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and the Gulf War were part of a Persian Gulf deception meant to give the West an exagerrated sense of military superiority over the East and probably also to give Saddam a martyr role in the Arab world so that he may eventually start a "jihad", or holy war, against Israel and the West.
The civil war in the former-Yugoslavia is to draw NATO and the West into a war against the Serbs, Russia's orthodox christian ally, possibly to create a pretext for a right-wing coup in Moscow and a Russian "jihad" against America and the West.
Russia's seemingly bungled military intervention in Chechnya and the victory of nationalists in the December 1993 parliamentary elections was to set the stage for a bogus right- wing coup in Moscow.
Lastly, the summit at which the two superpowers agreed to no longer target each other with nuclear weapons helped open the way for a successful Russian surprise attack against the West such that the world is "destroyed by fire".
Unfortunately, as long as people don't accept the truth, the ruling elite in Moscow will continue to pursue their premeditated, ultimate crime against humanity. Even with the incriminating evidence from astrology to see the crime unfolding, as long as there is no collective effort to expose this literally satanic manipulation of world history, the lie will succeed and the antichrist shall prevail.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Chattanooga Free Press September 13, 1997, Saturday "Astrology: A Gift From God?" By Jim Ashley, Free Press Church Editor "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night: and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years." When Moses used the word signs (Owth in Hebrew) in Gen. 1:14 was he referring to astrology? Colin Mitchell and Cathren Bond believe he was. Mr. Mitchell, a former instructor of psychology at Chattanooga State Technical Community College and Ms. Bond, a former teacher of astrology at Chattanooga State, have studied astrology for 20 years. Both pointed to the Star of Bethlehem as an astrological sign and explained that the star was probably "the planet Venus, the Morning Star," and the three wise men were "astrologers." The Star of Bethlehem, according to Mr. Mitchell, "occurred at that moment in time because that was the moment in time when special things were happening. Through literally thousands of years of observation and correlation, information has been gleaned and developed (from heavenly bodies) so we can make a tad more sense out of the divine plan and what's going on the surface. "So very many people see this system as being somehow opposed to the will of God. But I can assure you, it is just the opposite. It is as much as a waterfall or a whisper of wind that is God talking to us, but you have to pay attention. You have to get still enough to receive whatever is available. "It has brought me as a person a great deal closer to the sense that there is intelligence and purpose behind all of life, even the kinds of accidents like Lady Di's, which has absolutely galvanized this planet." Asked why Princess Diana's two personal astrologers, Penny Thornton and Debbie Frank, did not forsee her accidental death, Mr. Mitchell said astrology gives only "hints" and that Diana may have known that August 31 was a dangerous day and "may have been cautious." At least until she fled from photographers in a speeding Mercedes Benz without fastening her seat belt. Offering an example of astrological "hints," Mr. Mitchell said that in about 1910, "the plant Saturn went into the sign Aries and pretty soon you had World War I. "Then some 29 years later around 1939, Saturn again went into Aries, and you had Germany going into Poland (World War II). "Some time later in the late '60s, again you had Saturn going into Aries. You had the U.S.A. in the crescendo of the Vietnam War; you had the Seven-Day War in the Middle East ... "Now (1997), you've got Saturn back in Aries, and I dare say you're going to see a similar kind of eruption." Interestingly, he added, from now until the year 2000, Saturn will make an unusual series of moves back and forth through the constellation. An Episcopalian and former Hospice volunteer, Mr. Mitchell explained that although he personally uses astrology to "avoid danger," he looks to the stars professionally as a diagnostic counseling tool. An individual's astrological sign (the dominant constellation in the heavens under which a person was born), he said, "reveals a lot about how a person perceives the world or interacts with the world. ... If I can get the family's constellation nailed down and know generally what mama or daddy were like, I can get a sense of what home life was like. And this can help me explain to the person what kind of world he is living in." Also, he added, astrology teaches a person "how to get along with people better" and "as long as we can be open to it, we are going to continue to grow more and more towards being Christ- like." Asked if astrology could predict the Second Coming of Christ, Mr. Mitchell said, "We are currently in what's called the Age of Pisces. And Pisces is the part of the body is the feet. ... The symbol of Pisces is the fish. ... Christ said, "I will make you fishers of men,' to the 12. ... The pope wears the fisherman's ring. ... But, "this age is coming to a close somewhere around the year 2000, the beginning of the Age of Aquarius ... and, hopefully, we will have that thousand years of peace we've been promised." Ms. Bond, who also uses astrology to "avoid danger" and "get along with people better," warned, however, that many leading astrologers around the world say the infamous "antichrist" of Bible prophecy was born, according to the stars, under the sign of Aquarius on Feb. 4, 1962. "The sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn were all in Aquarius" at that time, she explained, quoting the astrologer's guide or compass, Ephemeris. A Lutheran, Ms. Bond said that although many of her Christian friends saw a conflict between her astrologer's guide and the Holy Bible, she once discussed astrology with her pastor and that "he told me he knew Who put the stars and planets in place and whose control they were under, and he had no problem with what I did." God, she said, is in control of everything. Thus, the death of Diana "could not have be prevented." The Lord, continued, "chooses not only the time you are born but the time you die." An astrologer, she said, can give you "warning" of danger only. But, she pointed out, "another astrologer may disagree with me." The Holy Bible appears to also disagree with her. "You are wearied by many counsels; let now the astrologers, those who prophesy by the stars, those who predict by the new moons, stand up and save you from what will come upon you. Behold, they have become as stubble. ... Each has wandered in his own way. There is none to save you" Isaiah 47:13-15. "To me," Ms. Bond responded to the verse, "it's talking about someone who's trying to take God's place, who is trying to usurp His authority." Asked about the verse also, Mr. Mitchell replied, "He's got a point of view there. I don't really know exactly what to say. ... "But when I picked up Diana's astrological chart and looked at what was going on at the time the wreck happened, my jaw dropped. It was just too much. It reflects celestial heavens on this piece of paper connected with what she was doing and what was going on the minute she took her first breath (at birth). How can all of this line up and not be part of the diving plan?" ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Nostradamus credited with predicting Diana's death" MANILA (October 1, 1997 08:27 a.m. EDT) - Sixteenth-century astrologist and seer Michel de Nostradamus predicted Princess Diana's death and funeral, according to e-mail that has been making the rounds among Internet users. The brief e-mail note received in Manila on Wednesday quotes Nostradamus' "Century 2, Quatrain 28' 'both in French and translated into English, which reads as: "The last son of the man with the Prophet's name, will bring Diana to her day of rest. At a distance they wander in frenetic grief Delivering a great people from ruin." "The father of Dodi al-Fayed, the owner of Harrod's department store, is named Mohammed, the name of the Islamic prophet. The rest of Nostradamus's prophecy is self-evident," the e-mail reads. Dodi al-Fayed was Diana's boyfriend who died instantly in the Paris car crash that also killed Princess Diana. The e-mail attributes the source of the quatrain to a 1985 book entitled "Nostradamus: Countdown to Apocalypse" by Jean Charles de Fontbrune. Fontbrune has studied Nostradamus' predictions for 15 years. "It's strange how his (Nostradamus) prophecies always become perfectly obvious after the event," the e-mail reads. Thousands have been fascinated by Nostradamus' predictions, which include devastating world conflicts that would bring about an apocalypse in July 1999. Experts who have studied Nostradamus, however, agree there is no authoritative interpretation of his verses, that can be so vague they can be made to mean almost anything by wishful thinkers or religious sects. Despite the 1999 doomsday scenario, his predictions go on for nearly 1,800 years after that date, scholars add. ----------------------------------------------------------------- RELATED EMAIL MESSAGES ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 17:11:13 +0000 Subject: October 31 This is not as powerful as a Mars Pluto conjunction but October 31, is filled with potential security issues for both Israel and the U.S. It is the date of the new moon (Note of interest: this would be called a blue moon if it was a full moon because it is the second new moon in the month of October---as rare as 'once in a blue moon'). Both Israel's chart and Mr. Netanyahu's is strongly aspected by this new moon. In astrology, the new moon aspects are thought to influence the entire lunation period (29 days). Vesta (national security) is at 20+ aries (right on the USA natal Chiron)----this 'sounds' like national security problems. Also the New Moon is in Scorpio again (emotionalism, revenge, explosiveness, desire, death). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 04:38:59 +0000 Subject: times At 1:38 a.m. Monday morning (tonight) moon conjuncts Pluto and at 4:44 a.m. Moon conjuncts Mars......this would be a key time for a Saddam surprise. Of course, the way our news media reports things we may never know what takes place at that time. I just bet he is up to something at that time though. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:39:58 +0000 Subject: Re: You thought I was crying wolf? (fwd) Good call on this....very timely. Thank you. How about that crazy Mars Pluto conjunction today combine with the Moon Uranus square and today's volatility should have been totally anticipated........even uglier astro over the weekend....war very likely. > Could you please elaborate? > > I believe Saddam takes action according to astrology. I am talking about mundane astrology.....the effect that overall aspects have on people, not natal astrology. Mars and Pluto were conjunct at 7:42 p.m at 4 Sagittarius EDT this evening. Mars the planet of war, violence and impulsiveness, in union with Pluto, the planet of extremism, death and manipulation, sees the the qualities of both planets combined and intensified. Sagittarius is a zodiacal sign with philosophical tendencies. A natural clash. Add to that a Moon (public subconciousness) Uranus (domination, compulsions, excitement, deviancy and erratic change, territory) square at 5;28 p.m. today and the moon in Scorpio (emotionalism, revenge, explosiveness, desire) and you have big trouble looking for a place to happen. I doubt that Saddam was using it, more a casualty of it...but who knows. Sunday the moon will be in Sagittarius (philosophical idealism) and is there until the 7th and conjuncts the Mars Pluto conjunction.......fanaticism, anger, jihad, seem to be written all over the skies. So this danger period should last at least thru the 7th. There's even more. Vesta (safety-security) squared Neptune (confusion) at 7:16 pm. tonight. All this violence, anger and volatility in the market today was totally expected by astro traders. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:13:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Astrology????? >>Why do you have an Astrology Charting site linked from your page? J. Adams wrote: > > God is against self-righteousness. Once the Church steadfastly > helf that those who don't believe the Earth is the center of the > universe are against God. However, this was a misinterpretation > of the scriptures by the so-called Christian of that day and > age. Now the same sort of misjudgement has arisen with respect > to astrology. For heaven's sake, when Jesus mentioned the so- > called "End of the World", in Hebrew he was actually referring > to the "End of the Age", i.e., the End of the astrological age > of Pisces and the subsequent beginning of the Age of Aquarius. > Here is some more modern day blasphemy for you to get needlessly > bent out of shape about: > > See- http://www.jvim.com/IntelligenceBriefing/jun1997/cover.html > > Diana means Goddess of the moon: > > "Eclipses coincide with key turning points in Princess > Diana's life --perhaps not surprisingly for a Sun sign Cancer. > ... Diana's divorce from Charles was announced in the Houses of > Parliament on a lunar eclipse. Her death occurred with a lunar > eclipse. The moon covering the sun represented the darkening of > her light..." I am well aware of Jack and Rexella's ministry. I am well aware of the lost "Star Bible". I am well aware of the universe being an immense chronometer ticking away according to G-d's perfect timing. I am not histerical as you suggest. You should be aware that there is a vast difference between Biblical Astronomy (G-d put the stars in place and named each one, references are given throughout scripture regarding key events signalled by signs in the heavens, I'm not ignorant of this truth) and occultic astrology, that is, using the stars as a form of divination to guide ones life. Satan perverts everything created by the Lord. Read the Word and seek the Lord's will instead. In Him, Sincerely, Steve PS. Please, if you care to respond again (not necessary) send me your own thoughts. I had previously reviewed the information you sent. Also, self riteous I am not. In fact, I am just another sinner in need of G-d's grace and the work completed on the cross. -----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------- RELATED ARTICLES ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Mideast peace talks to resume Monday" By Hisham Abdallah, Agence France-Presse RAMALLAH, West Bank (October 5, 1997 8:05 p.m. EDT) - Israeli- Palestinian peace talks are set to resume Monday, overshadowed by Israel's alleged attempt to murder a Palestinian leader in Amman and lingering Arab mistrust of the negotiations' U.S. mediators. U.S. Middle East coordinator Dennis Ross is scheduled to kick off the new talks Monday evening after holding separate meetings earlier in the day with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in Ramallah and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem. But the U.S.-brokered initiative was likely to be hampered from the start by the brewing scandal surrounding an assassination attempt against Khaled Meshaal, a top figure in the Islamic group HAMAS, 10 days ago in Jordan. Jordanian officials said Israeli secret agents were behind the bid to poison Meshaal and a furious King Hussein threatened to break off diplomatic relations with Israel over the violation of his nation's sovereignty. He demanded a series of measures from Israel, notably the release last week of jailed HAMAS spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmad Yassin, who was flown to Amman for medical treatment. Jordanian and HAMAS officials said Sunday that Yassin would return to his Gaza home on Monday, although Israel did not immediately confirm it had authorized his entry into the Palestinian-ruled territory. While Palestinian Authority officials publicly welcomed the sheikh's release, they privately said it could seriously complicate the peace negotiations which are resuming only after Arafat bowed to intense Israeli and U.S. pressure to crack down on HAMAS following a recent spate of suicide bombings by the Islamic movement. Officials said it will be difficult for Arafat to pursue the security clampdown demanded by Israel as a condition for continuing the peace process when the Jewish state itself is releasing top HAMAS leaders. On the eve of the talks, Palestinian officials also renewed calls Sunday for a strong European Union role to balance U.S. mediation of the peace process. Saeb Erakat, the chief Palestinian negotiator, said Palestinian President Yasser Arafat had asked Washington to accept the European Union as "full partners" when Israelis and Palestinians tackle negotiations on a permanent peace settlement. "This is essential for balance in the negotiations," said Erakat, reflecting Palestinian Authority criticism that U.S. mediators have failed in the past to deal strongly enough with Israeli violations of interim peace agreements. Erakat said such Israeli violations, notably the building of Jewish housing in disputed areas and a refusal to carry out pledged troop withdrawals from West Bank rural areas, were likely to prevent "real progress" when negotiations resume on Monday. In Monday's talks, a group of eight Israeli and Palestinian committees headed by Arafat's number two Mahmud Abbas and Israeli Foreign Minister David Levy, are to resume talks on hold since March to hammer out implementation of long-overdue Israeli commitments from the 1995 interim self-rule accords. These notably include the opening of air and sea ports in Gaza, travel corridors between the West Bank and Gaza Strip and the release of Palestinian prisoners. Israeli press reports said King Hussein already obtained pledges of further prisoner releases in his bargaining over the Meshaal affair. Erakat said the Palestinians would demand a three-month time limit for the committees to reach results on the issues. This week's talks will be followed by meetings in Washington on October 13, hosted by U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. These are to work out the terms for a "time out" from settlement building which Albright has demanded and to address such other broad issues as Israeli security demands to pave the way for the launch of negotiations on the core "final status" issues. These focus on Palestinian demands for their own state, the fate of settlements and the future of Jerusalem. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Gunmen attack U.N. office in Baghdad" CAIRO, Egypt (October 5, 1997 11:40 a.m. EDT) -- Gunmen hurled grenades and fired bullets at a U.N. office in Baghdad, destroying one vehicle and damaging three others, officials said Sunday. One attacker was injured and taken into custody by the Iraqi army, according to a U.N. statement. The remaining three attackers fled, it said. The Saturday night assault targeted the World Health Organization's headquarters in Baghdad, which houses an office for U.N. officials monitoring the oil-for-food program. No one claimed responsibility. It was not clear how the captured gunman was injured. According to preliminary reports, the four men also lobbed grenades and opened fire at the WHO building, the statement said. Eric Falt, spokesman for the oil-for-food program, told The Associated Press in Dubai the attack came after office hours and only guards were at the building. The roof of the carport was partially burned, Falt said. One four-wheel drive vehicle was destroyed and three others severely damaged, he said. U.N. humanitarian coordinator in Baghdad, Denis Halliday, condemned the attack, the first ever at a U.N. building in Iraq, the statement said. "It is the Iraqi government's responsibility to protect U.N. personnel and property against any harm and Mr. Halliday has asked for an urgent meeting at the highest levels with the Iraqi leaders in order to express his concern," said the statement. No one claimed responsibility. Iraq has been under U.N. sanctions banning the sale of oil, its economic mainstay, since its 1990 invasion of Kuwait. But a U.N. program, put in place in December 1996, allows Iraq to sell $1 billion of crude every 90 days to buy needed food and medicine under close U.N. supervision. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Iran threatens more raids in Iraq" DUBAI (October 5, 1997 07:40 a.m. EDT) - Iran on Sunday threatened to carry out more raids on opposition bases across the border in Iraq, after an air strike which prompted the U.S. to rush an aircraft carrier back to the Gulf. "So long as terrorist groups conduct operations against our territory, it will be our right to defend ourselves," Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi told the London-based Arabic newspaper Al- Hayat. "We have said many times we can not tolerate terrorist attacks from across the border on our villages and pipelines," he said. "That is why we decided to carry out a raid on their camps to defend ourselves, which is our right." The United States said Friday it had dispatched an aircraft carrier battle group to the Gulf in the wake of Iran's incursion into a "no-fly zone" in southern Iraq to carry out the raids on the opposition People's Mujahedeen. The accelerated deployment of the USS Nimitz and accompanying warships "is related to our ability to carry out the responsibility given to us by the international community," White House spokesman Michael McCurry said. The United States has warned that the incursions into the no-fly zone could put Iranian pilots at risk. The Nimitz, skipping a port call in Singapore, was now expected to arrive in six days, rather than mid-October as scheduled, U.S. defense department spokesman Kenneth Bacon said Friday. "It's going over there to show we're serious about enforcing the no-fly zone," he said. Iraq has protested over the raids carried out on September 29 and called for a ban on Iraqi flights in the south and north of the country to be lifted to allow it to defend itself. The "no-fly zones" for Iraqi aircraft were imposed by the United States and its allies following the 1991 Gulf War. The Mujahedeen said Iran's warplanes struck two of its bases near the border, southeast and northeast of the capital. It was Iran's first air strike since 1993 but the group has been the target of several attacks by land. The raid came three days after a meeting in New York between Iraqi Foreign Minister Mohammad Said al-Sahhaf and Kharazi on normalizing relations between the two countries, which fought a 1980-1988 war. Kharazi, in the interview with Al-Hayat, ruled out a halt to such dialogue. "We must try to open doors," he said, while noting that the issue of the Iranian opposition based in Iraq was an obstacle. He also played down the prospects of a three-country alliance, between Iraq, Iran and Syria, its main Arab ally. "I don't think such an axis is possible at the moment ... There are still outstanding questions with Iraq," he said. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "US Accused of Raising Tensions" Sunday October 5 9:13 AM EDT DUBAI (Reuter) - The United States has needlessly raised tensions in the Gulf by rushing an aircraft carrier to the region, one of the leading newspapers in the Gulf said Sunday. U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen last week ordered the carrier Nimitz to skip a port call in Singapore and move to the Gulf "at best speed" in response to Iranian air raids on bases inside Iraq run by armed opposition exiles. At the same time, Washington told Tehran Iranian aircraft could be shot down if they violated the flight ban. The carrier's group of seven warships is now due to arrive in the Gulf to join existing U.S. naval forces in the waterway by the middle of October, four or five days earlier than originally scheduled. "The U.S. already has an operational force in the region to patrol the 'no-fly zone' inside Iraq, so Nimitz could have got to the region a few days later than planned without creating a crisis," Gulf News said in an editorial. The English-language daily said the 'no-fly zone' was a controversial ban imposed by the United States and Britain against Iraqi air attacks on the minorities living in the north and south of the country. "It amounts to a questionable curtailment of Iraq's sovereignty and must not be used to threaten the territorial integrity of the country," Gulf News said. It said the way the United States enforced the no-fly zones -- one in the north declared in 1991 to protect Kurds and one in the south imposed in 1992 after Iraqi air force raids on Iraqi Shi'ites --was a major reproach in itself. "Why is Turkey being allowed to violate Iraq's sovereignty by flying into the 'no-fly zone' in the north of Iraq and attacking its Kurdish rebels from the air and on the ground without any action being taken by the U.S.?" Gulf News asked. "If and when the Nimitz sails into the Mediterranean to warn Turkey against violation of the 'no-fly zone' in the north, then American credibility will be better served than it is now." ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Syria, Iran building up forces near Iraq" ANKARA (October 3, 1997 08:04 a.m. EDT) - Turkey's semi-official Anatolian news agency said on Friday that neighbors Syria and Iran had deployed troops near a Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq in an apparent response to a Turkish military raid into Iraq. It said Syrian armored units had built up near a triangle of territory where Syria, Turkey and northern Iraq meet. It also said Iranian troops had been deployed on Iran's border with northern Iraq. A spokesman for the London-based Iraqi opposition group Iraqi National Congress confirmed the deployments. "There is information that Syria ... is carrying out a deployment only 30 kilometers (20 miles) from where our border meets northern Iraq," Anatolian said. "Iran continues to deploy troops along its border with northern Iraq," the agency said. It gave no indication of the size of the build up. Turkish forces have been fighting Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) guerrillas in northern Iraq for almost two weeks. Ankara often accuses Iran and Syria of aiding the PKK in its fight for Kurdish self-rule in southeast Turkey. Damascus and Tehran deny helping the rebels. The INC spokesman said one Syrian armored division was positioned near northern Iraq. He said an unknown number of Iranian troops, including Revolutionary Guards, had taken up positions at three points near the northern Iraqi border. Around 15,000 troops, backed by air power, are taking part in the Turkish raid, the second major strike into Iraq this year. The PKK said fighting was still going on with Turkish troops around the group's main camp in northern Iraq, which Ankara said it had captured this week in a cross-border raid. "The heaviest clashes in the region are continuing in the Zab Valley," the rebels said in a statement obtained by Reuters. It said 10 members of an Iraqi Kurdish militia allied to Turkey had died in the clashes. The statement did not say who now controlled the Zab camp, a network of deep mountain caves. Turkey says it is winning its anti-rebel fight inside Turkey but needs to finish off the PKK in northern Iraq. More than 26,000 people have died in the conflict. Iraqi Foreign Minister Mohammed al-Sahaf on Thursday demanded the immediate withdrawal of Turkish troops from northern Iraq. In a speech to the U.N. General Assembly, he said Baghdad reserved the right to respond to "these acts of aggression." ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Crude Oil Futures Soar" Friday, October 3, 1997 By Cliff Edwards AP Business Writer Crude oil futures soared Friday to an eight-month high after the Clinton administration dispatched an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf following violations of an Iraqi no-fly zone. The move heightened tensions in a region that supplies a third of the world's oil. On other exchanges, precious metals rose sharply as the possibility of Middle Eastern conflict caused investors to scramble to safe investments. Corn and soybeans jumped as farmers held on to the fall crop amid strong worldwide demand. Crude futures had the biggest one-day gain since March 18 after the Defense Department said the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz would skip a port of call in Singapore and steam directly to the Persian Gulf, arriving within a week to help enforce a no-fly zone in southern Iraq. Heating oil and unleaded gasoline futures also jumped. Iran on Monday violated the no-fly zone while attacking rebels who took refuge across the border in Iraq. The move heightened tensions with Iraq, which had a long war with Iran in the 1980s. In northern Iraq, Turkish forces also were fighting rebels. ``It's a fairly crowded war party over there, and the fact that the U.S. is now potentially getting involved makes the possibility of escalations of tensions that much greater,'' said energy analyst Ed Kevelson at Paribas Futures Inc. ``With this much uncertainty about what might happen over the weekend, no one wanted to go home unprotected.'' Crude oil for November delivery on the New York Mercantile Exchange rose 99 cents to $22.76 a barrel, the highest since Feb. 19. November unleaded gasoline jumped 1.56 cents to 62.99 cents a gallon; November heating oil rose 2.21 cents to 62.01 cents a gallon. Natural gas for November delivery rose 1.2 cents to $3.125 per 1,000 cubic feet. The energy gains continued a rally from Thursday, when Iraq blocked United Nations weapons inspectors from entering suspected illegal weapons sites, prompting threats of retaliation such as a halt to Iraqi oil exports. Gold and silver futures also rose sharply on the New York Mercantile Exchange as investors sought a safe haven for their money in the event of military conflict. Precious metals tend to hold their value during times of military or political upheaval. The rally on that market came despite government reports showing inflation appears to remain in check, reducing the need for the metals as an inflationary hedge. December gold rose $3.40 to $336.90 a troy ounce; December silver jumped 13.30 cents to $5.303 an ounce. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Agence France Presse September 11, 1997 "Iraq calls for jihad against Israel, slams US peace efforts" Iraq urged Arab states on Thursday to mount a jihad, or Moslem holy war, against Israel and to reject a US-sponsored peace process which it says is biased toward the Jewish state. "All the signs and historical facts show that the Arabs have no choice but to pursue the jihad against the (Israeli) occupier," said Ath-Thawra, organ of the ruling Baath Party. It said US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's maiden tour of the Middle East that started in Israel on Wednesday was aimed solely at "guaranteeing the security of the (Israeli) aggressor which practises terrorism." The peace process sponsored by Washington is "totally partial" toward Israel, it charged, adding that the US administration would "never accept the slightest pressure on the Zionist entity." It slammed "Arab heads of state who think they can settle matters by negotiating with the enemy." ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- "South Korea on alert after two North Korean boats disappear" SEOUL (October 3, 1997 11:04 p.m. EDT) - South Korea stepped up vigilance on its western coast Saturday after two North Korean boats disappeared from radar screens, officials said. The two boats, which were in North Korean waters, were believed to be similar to one previously used by Pyongyang infiltrators, they said without elaborating on the type of vessel. The South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) instructed troops deployed on five northernmost islands off the western coast and along the western coast to strengthen security against possible infiltration, the JCS officials said. The two boats disappeared from South Korean radars Friday while operating in North Korean waters near the inter-Korean border. There was a possibility the North Korean boats were on a training mission or trying to infiltrate the South under cover of darkness as there will be little moonlight until next Wednesday, they said. No unusual movement by North Korean troops has been repported, they said. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "North Korea says war is possible 'at any moment'" UNITED NATIONS (October 2, 1997 6:21 p.m. EDT) - Communist North Korea told the United Nations General Assembly Thursday the situation on the Korean peninsula was so tense that "a war could break out at any moment." "In recent years alone, the United States introduced over $3 billion worth of war equipment into South Korea," North Korean Vice Foreign Minister Choe Su-hon said. It had also been conducting joint military exercises more frequently than ever before and "even directing the gunpoints of the U.S. forces in Japan and the Pacific Fleet" towards North Korea, he added. "The prevailing situation in the Korean peninsula is so tense that a war could break out at any moment due to the attempts of the U.S., Japan and South Korean authorities against our socialist republic," Choe said. To ease the tension and avert the danger of war, the United States should "abandon its hostile policy against our republic and sign a peace agreement" with North Korea, he said. Representatives of the United States, North Korea, South Korea and China met in New York last month to prepare the ground for a treaty to replace the armistice that halted the 1950-53 Korean war, but achieved no results. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Kim Jong-Il inauguration scheduled for October 10" By Lorien Holland, Agence France-Presse BEIJING (October 5, 1997 08:46 a.m. EDT) - North Korea will elevate the late Kim Il-Sung's son and heir, Kim Jong-Il, to general secretary of the ruling Korean Workers' Party on Thursday, according a Pyongyang diplomat in Beijing. The long-awaited inauguration of the troubled Stalinist state's de facto ruler, will fill the post left vacant by the death of Kim senior in 1994 and complete the first dynastic succession in communist history. "Comrade Kim Jong-Il will be elected as general secretary at the 52nd anniversary of the founding of the party," the source said. "The actual anniversary is on October 10, but there is a small possibility that the election will be the day before." His message was echoed by monitors in Seoul on Sunday. "The two-week process for Kim's nomination as party head appears to be over with a rally of party workers on Friday in Kaesong," said a North Korea watcher at Seoul's monitoring agency, Naewoe Press. The process started on September 21, when a regional party congress in South Pyongan province formally nominated Kim Jong- Il, 55, as general secretary of the all-powerful ruling Workers' Party. "The North is now gearing up for a final conference in the capital (Pyongyang) to elevate Kim Jong-Il as general secretary," he added. There has been no official announcement yet from Pyongyang on when Kim will fill the post. Kim Il-Sung died in July 1994 and the two top posts he held, those of party general secretary and state president, have remained vacant ever since. The party constitution requires a plenary session of the party's 173-member Central Committee members to elect a new secretary general. But analysts in Seoul speculated Kim's inauguration could be endorsed through other mechanisms, although they remained divided over whether Kim might also fill the second top post, that of state president. The diplomat in Beijing, who did not wish to be identified, said he had no information on the size or scale of celebrations for the event, which comes as reports of a widescale famine are filtering out of the isolated nation. Hong Kong newspapers have quoted internal documents as saying one million people have already died there and while this has not been confirmed, aid workers distributing food in the nation confirm that the situation is deteriorating. Even North Korean diplomats in Beijing and in Moscow have admitted that the "temporary difficulties" facing their nation are immense. Kim's September 21 nomination swiftly echoed through the nation, with the official media reporting the nation "absolutely worships, trusts and follows the general as god." While the people were "vibrating with enthusiasm," mother nature was also paying her tribute by sending blooms out of season and allowing fishermen to catch a rare albino sea slug, it said. Vice President Ri Jong-Ok also declared that the younger Kim could have replaced his father as general secretary some three years ago, but had refused out of loyalty and an ardent desire to complete the traditional three-year mourning period. Despite the official biographies that praise Kim Jong-Il for being "unusually clever and wise" from childhood and mastering military tactics at an early age, little is known about the man. He frequently tours North Korean military bases in his capacity as head of the armed forces, but is rarely seen in public and has only made one official overseas visit, to China in 1983. However, he did grant an audience to Oleg Shenin, chairman of a grouping of communist parties of the former Soviet Union on September 2, according to ITAR-TASS. Shenin said his host appeared well-informed on events in Russia, adding that the two men discussed international events and Pyongyang's relations with Tokyo and Washington. The Russian said he believed that "many guests abroad" would be invited for the inauguration, but Chinese sources refused to confirm if the head of the communist party here -- President and General Secretary Jiang Zemin -- had received an invitation. Despite strains in the relationship, China is North Korea's oldest ally and would certainly be invited if there were any foreign participation in the event. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Nine Bosnian Croats to Go to War Crimes Court Saturday October 4 7:00 AM EDT By Laura Lui ZAGREB (Reuter) - Nine Bosnian Croats will surrender voluntarily for trial on war crimes charges to the international criminal tribunal in the Hague on Monday, a lawyer defending one of them said on Friday. "We are planning to leave on Monday for The Hague. We are going as a group," lawyer Jadranka Slokovic-Glumac, defense counsel for one of them, Pero Skopljak, told Reuters by telephone. Croatian state television said late on Friday the accused could be flown on a NATO helicopter to the Adriatic port of Split and then on to The Hague even before Monday. The surrender follows heavy Western pressure on Croatia to stick to its commitments under the Bosnian peace accord and hand over war crimes suspects. Washington has already blocked two World Bank and IMF loans and threatend further diplomatic isolation of Croatia unless it complied. Slokovic-Glumac said the two most wanted Croat suspects, Dario Kordic and Ivica Rajic, would not be in the group. The West has explicitly urged Croatia to make sure Kordic and Rajic stood trial in the Hague. The group will include two men indicted along with Kordic for alleged persecution of Muslims in central Bosnia and seven other suspects accused of atrocities in the village of Ahmici in April 1993. Most of them offered to surrender voluntarily earlier this year if the U.N. war crimes tribunal can guarantee them a fair and quick trial. One of the suspects, Marinko Katava, told the television by telephone from Bosnia, the group had asked for the guarantees "so we don't spend the rest of our lives waiting (for the trial to begin)." "I have been told indirectly (by the Foreign Ministry) that we now have the guarantees... We've been promised a quick beginning of the trial and that's the most important thing for us," Slokovic-Glumac said. "We are ready to prove our innocence and tell the world the whole truth," Katava said. The television added the whole group would plead not guilty on all charges. U.S. Balkans envoy Robert Gelbard was discussing the issue with Croatian president Franjo Tudjman in Zagreb on Friday and State Department spokesman James Rubin said Washington hoped to "have some results from that effort very soon." The United States said on Thursday the tribunal was now prepared to hold trials three to five months after suspects voluntarily turn themselves over for prosecution and Washington would work to ensure this happens. Bosnian Croat general Tihomir Blaskic handed himself over voluntarily in April last year and his trial began some 15 months later. The Tribunal, set up in May 1993, has publicly indicted 78 suspects: 57 Serbs, 18 Croats and three Muslims, the majority of them for crimes committed during Bosnia's 1992-95 war. Croatia has so far extradited only one suspect and has held Skopljak in its custody since August. ----------------------------------------------------------------- "President in trouble if his foes win in Serbia and Montenegro" By Dusan Stojanovic, Associated Press Writer BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (October 5, 1997 7:58 p.m. EDT) -- Slobodan Milosevic's foes claimed the lead Sunday in elections for the presidency of both Yugoslav republics, but a boycott by pro- democracy opponents could invalidate the vote in Serbia. Milosevic's associates faced tough challenges in Serbia and Montenegro, in both cases from men who once supported the authoritarian Yugoslav president but now bitterly oppose him. Losses could affect the ability of Milosevic -- a regional powerbroker whose influence ignited then quelled the war in Bosnia -- to extend his stay in power. In Montenegro, which has only 600,000 people, Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic appeared to be heading for a major victory over Milosevic's protege, current President Momir Bulatovic, according to initial official results released early Monday. Djukanovic says it is time for Montenegro to separate itself from Yugoslavia's economic disaster. That could ultimately lead to Montenegro's secession from Yugoslavia, or at least cause a lot of trouble for Milosevic. Montenegro controls half of the votes in the federal parliament, which elects and fires Yugoslav presidents. The election commission in Montenegro said that with 23 percent of the vote counted, Djukanovic led incumbent President Bulatovic 35,643 votes to 31,587. Djukanovic supporters, chanting "It's All Over," honked car horns in the capital, Podgorica, and waved flags and wine bottles in celebration of the apparent victory. In Serbia, extreme nationalist Vojislav Seselj, who was running against Milosevic ally Zoran Lilic, said that initial results gave him the lead. At his headquarters, drinks and cakes were prepared for celebration. No official results were released, but Seselj said his own tally gave him 52 percent of the vote with about 41 percent of the ballots counted. Turnout in Serbia appeared low, and reports of irregularities surfaced soon after polls closed. If less than 50 percent of eligible voters turn out, the election is invalid and will have to be repeated in two months. Elderly voters said they had been threatened with the loss of their government pensions and welfare payments if they didn't turn out to vote for Lilic. Polls closed at 8 p.m. No official results were expected until later Monday. More than 7 million people were registered to cast ballots in Serbia, and 458,000 in Montenegro. Preliminary figures indicated about 63 percent voted in Montenegro. Independent observers reported many irregularities in Serbia, and said they thought the 50-percent figure was not reached. Srdjan Bogosalvljevic, a statistician for the independent Center for Free Elections and Democracy, told reporters that initial figures indicated turnout would not exceed 47 percent. One Belgrade resident who didn't vote was university student Mijodrag Momcilovic. "Who cares who wins?" he said. "Maybe both Serbia and Montenegro should hit rock bottom so they can rebound and get their heads above water." Some elderly Belgraders reported they had been threatened by Milosevic supporters. "They told me I must vote for Lilic, or my pension is off," said an elderly woman, who for fear of repercussions identified herself only as Dara. She said she took a ballot, but invalidated it by marking it with a big X. Opposition leaders last year defeated Milosevic's Socialists in local elections, and then conducted months of daily protests to force him to recognize the results. Their coalition fell apart this summer, but they led the boycott effort. They said that given Milosevic's control of the media and other levers of power, there was no way the election would be fair. Ethnic Albanians in tense Kosovo province, who want independence, also boycotted. Opponents of Milosevic fear he will watch to see whether Lilic has less votes, and if so, manipulate the turnout to make sure it does not surpass 50 percent. Seselj commanded Serb paramilitary units in the Croatian and Bosnian wars and espouses a nationalism even more extreme than that of Milosevic, who touched off fighting in those republics. If Seselj wins, he could use the Serbian presidency to preach his nationalist and anti-Western message. Seselj supporters also have made gains in recent elections in Bosnia, and could make it even more difficult to impose peace there. Until summer, Milosevic was the Serbian president. But he moved up to the Yugoslav presidency, which is appointed by Parliament, because the constitution barred him from running again. There were only about 30 foreign observers monitoring the elections in Serbia, and about 60 in Montenegro. Milosevic voted in Belgrade's exclusive Dedinje district with his wife. "I hope that citizens will vote in big numbers and give their support to Zoran Lilic and the policy of peace and development," Milosevic said. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ARTICLES FOR FAIR USE ONLY -----------------------------------------------------------------