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The myth of the Qur'an in our DNA continues
to spread over the internet, thanks to certain hit-and-run Muslim trolls
who feel this is the ultimate bomb to leave in atheist forums or newsgroups.
The following are some of the responses we've found to Muslims who actually
took it serious, and helped further our cause.
From: smoque@my-deja.com (smoque@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Holy Qur'an in our DNA! Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam, sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, talk.atheism
Date: 2000/08/17
May I suggest to the author to be more succinct and concise next time
he sells his propoganda? I didn't get two paragraphs in before his
rope
of ill-placed polysylables made me give up on going any further.
From: FemFaCal (femfacal@nospam.net)
Subject: Re: Holy Qur'an in our DNA! Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam, sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, talk.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
does anyone know what in the world this means? i did a search
of university
of new mexico and he's nowhere to be found there. how long ago
was this
research supposed to have been published? i can't find a publication
of his
in any genetics journals either. i'm trying to figure out what
in the world
he's talking about. it doesn't seem to make any sense that the
4 acids
(a,c,g,t) could be able to stand for all of the arabic letters in the
koran. i just don't get it!
peace
shelley
(sorry if i rained on anyone's parade but i need to look up things
that look
fishy to me)
From: Cary Kittrell (cary@afone.as.arizona.edu)
Subject: Re: Holy Qur'an in our DNA! Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam, sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, talk.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
In article <399AAC14.F8CF151@nospam.net> femfacal@nospam.net writes:
does anyone know what in the world this means? i did a search of university
of new mexico and he's nowhere to be found there. how long ago was this
research supposed to have been published? i can't find a publication of his
in any genetics journals either. i'm trying to figure out what in the world
he's talking about. it doesn't seem to make any sense that the 4 acids
(a,c,g,t) could be able to stand for all of the arabic letters in the
koran. i just don't get it!
peace
shelley
(sorry if i rained on anyone's parade but i need to look up things that look
fishy to me)
I couldn't find a "GenLab" nor an "Ahmad Khan" at the University
of New Mexico either. However, I did come across this site:
http://cgi1.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/7368/quran_dna.htm
which claims:
"This is to informs you that if you have received the above
story, please do NOT forward it because it is a HOAX! The
gret scientific value of the Quran is great as it is so we don't
need to spread lies to glorify the Quaran which is a book of
TRUTH..."
so I'm guessing that this is another story on the order of the
one about NASA's computers finding Joshua's missing day.
In passing I would say, however, that you could use small
*sequences* of the four bases to encode the Arabic alphabet
(or any other), in the same fashion that three-long sequences
of bases specify the amino acids selected when proteins are
being built (and these triplets of bases could actually
specify about three times as many aminio acids as they
currently do).
--
cary kittrell
From: Rick (rikwriter@mindspring.com)
Subject: Re: Holy Qur'an in our DNA! Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam, sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, talk.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
Why is it whenever I see this thread, I keep thinking it says "Holy
Qu'ran
in our DNA, Batman!"
From: Scott Craver (sacraver@ivy.ee.princeton.edu)
Subject: Re: Holy Qur'an in our DNA! Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam, sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, talk.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
Cary Kittrell wrote:
>In passing I would say, however, that you could
use small
>*sequences* of the four bases to encode the
Arabic alphabet
>(or any other), in the same fashion that three-long
sequences
>of bases specify the amino acids selected when
proteins are
>being built (and these triplets of bases could
actually
>specify about three times as many aminio acids
as they
>currently do).
You could also feed any string of symbols, regardless
of the size of its alphabet (as long as it's more than 1)
into a sufficiently involved decompression program and
see glimmers of words and even sentences. Uniformly
and independently distributed symbols shoved into an
nth-order Huffman decoder (whose tables could be
derived from some existing huge body of text) would look
something like nth-order Language.
I'm actually surprised something like this hasn't already
been proposed by some crackpot as a divination method.
Instead of staring at random events like shuffled cards
or scattered rocks, you feed them into a process that
outputs creepy near-English text like:
THE GENERATED JOB PROVIDUAL BETTER TRAHND THE
DISPLAYED CODE, ABOVERY UPONDULTS WELL THE
CODERST IN THESTICAL IT DO HOCK BOTH MERG.
(INSTATES CONS ERATION. NEVER ANY OF PUBLE AND
TO THEORY. EVENTIAL CALLEGAND TO ELAST BENERATED
IN WITH PIES AS IS WITH THE)
This is 4th-order English from Cover & Thomas, Elements of
Information Theory, p. 135. Okay, not perfect, but it would
be considerably creepier if randomly generated from new-age
books rather than probability textbooks.
Way I see it, you could analyze a huge body of text and
munge that into a collection of 27^3 Huffman tables, each
conditioned on previous 3 symbols output by THE GREAT ORACLE.
This could all be squeezed into a "dictionary" of about
300 pages.
-S
From: paine3297@my-deja.com (paine3297@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
In article <8nctp6$b83$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Muslimah 2000 wrote:
Ahh. The Islamist version of the Bible code.
> "From Sura al baqarah, the sixth ayat. In English
it says: 'As to those
> who reject faith, it is the same to them whether
you warn them or do not
> warn them; they will not believe.'"
The above sentence is the most revealing about you and the essence of
your post.
Faith. Can a atheist have faith in a rational manner as opposed to the
irrational faith of the god-concept proseltysers of all types?
If a person has desires that are compatitable with existing facts. If
he then plans and takes the appropriate steps towards achieving goals
that he desires to achieve he is right to have faith in the outcome.
However, he does not and can not know everything in existence that
may
come between him and his goal. But since he has approached his goal
in
a rational manner by taking the appropriate steps having faith in the
achievement of his goals is valid. Why? Because the rational person
relies on the universal laws of nature and the laws of cause and effect
to remain consistent.
The key is linking ones thoughts and actions to reality while having
faith.
The other type of mystical faith is irrational, is not replicable, and
is quite often dangerous to the individual by divorcing the individual
from reality. Eg. faith in miracles, healing, divine intervention,
etc.
paine3297 - Laissez-Faire!
From: Meteorite Debris (zrgrbevgr@qvatboyhr.arg.nh.ROT13)
Subject: Re: Absolute Proof Islam is True!
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Date: 2000/08/16
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:20:39 GMT that most illustrious and gifted
writer of our times Muslimah 2000 did
eloquently compose:
> 1/4 of the World is now Muslim, and more and
more people are converting
> every day. Still, some people actually deny
Islam, and all its miracles.
> Now, thanks to brother Ahmad Khan, may Allah
be pleased with him, we
> have undisputed proof that Islam is true, and
there is no God but Allah.
Look another religion that is true. Join the line. You can fight it
out with all the other true religions.
Plonk!
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