Informed consent? In 1995 the Wisconsin Legislature passed a law requiring abortion providers to give prospective clients state printed materials containing information on the medical risks associated with abortion. The law requires the Wisconsin Department of Health and Family Services to exercise "diligence" in producing a pamphlet that is "objective, accurate and current". The stated purpose of the law is provide the woman with the information for informed consent. At its core, the common law doctrine of informed consent imposes a legal duty on the physician to inform her patient of significant facts about a proposed procedure so the patient can choose intelligently whether to consent. The scope of the physician's duty to warn extends to all material risks. A risk is material if a reasonable patient, in what the physician knows or should know to be the patient's position, would be likely to attach significance to the risk in deciding whether or not to forego the proposed procedure. [FN136] This standard is distinct from the issue of causation, triggering the physician's duty to warn even when disclosure of the risk would not in fact have caused the particular patient to forego the procedure. [FN137] The Wisconsin State Journal Sunday March 12, 2000 ran two guest columns on this law. John Kindley, a UW Law School graduate, protested that the current pamphlet fails to include a statement on the increased risk of breast cancer caused by abortion (the ABC link). He has filed lawsuits against abortion providers for failing to state the ABC risk. Polly Newcome of the UW-Madison Cancer Research Center countered that there is not sufficient proof of such a risk. I sent this letter to both the WSJ and John Kindley. EDITOR: 12 March 2000 The John Kindley - Polly Newcomb debate on ‘informed consent’ about the medical risks of an abortion left out a factor. The possible increase in breast cancer for women who have abortions is not established. It seems to be found only in studies that rely on interviews with women who have beast cancer, but not in studies based on the medical records. This would suggest that women who have breast cancer are more likely to talk about having had an abortion. And of course any such study must control for other factors: are women who have had abortions also more likely to smoke, or have other cancer risk factors? If the ABC link exists at all it is at the margin of what can be detected. But there is fact where the evidence is clear: for a woman in the early stages of pregnancy, it is between 10 and 25 times safer to have an abortion than to not have it. For any OTHER medical procedure, ‘informed consent‘ would mean being informed of the relative risks of having Vs not having the procedure. It is only after about 16 weeks that the risk of an abortion become greater than the risk of continuing the pregnancy. But does the Wisconsin "information" pamphlet inform the woman of this fact? And I bet John Kindley is not about to file a lawsuit over the failure of anyone to provide that information. (The Wisconsin State Journal printed my letter on March 26, and I got a reply from John Kindley) REPLY From John Kindley: (JAKindley@aol.com) >I discuss the "recall bias" hypothesis and the issue of possible >confounding >factors in my Wisconsin Law Review article, which is posted on my >web site at www.johnkindley.com. The discussion is in the >"Consideration of Alternative >Explanations" section, particularly in footnotes 177 and 178. Hi, I noticed that although several confounding factors were listed including age of first pregnancy and number of other children and oral contraceptive use, no mention was made of smoking. Yet I have read that women who get abortions are more likely to smoke and make other risky lifestyle choices than women who do not. >And of course, if the association between induced abortion and >increased breast cancer risk reflects a causal link, this itself >shows that induced abortion is more dangerous than childbirth >by far. Of course this can be viewed exactly the other way: if the risk Of childbirth is higher than of abortion, then women who get abortions are more likely to live long enough to develop breast cancer. I mean playing Russian Roulette will greatly reduce your risk of getting prostate cancer. But really, this is not the issue. The ABC link is disputed by experts, and is, at best, at the margin of what can be measured statistically from much data. The fact that the death risk from childbirth is 10 to 25 times greater than the death risk from an abortion is clear from actual death rate data on both. It is not based on any assumed theory or rat studies. If the doctrine of informed consent imposes a legal duty on the physician to inform her patient of significant facts about a proposed procedure so the patient can choose intelligently whether to consent, then when one alternative carries 10 to 25 times the relative risk of the other alternative, do you think the woman has a right to be informed of that fact? Would you defend a manufacturer of two pills for treating the same condition, who failed to disclose the fact that one of the pills carried a death rate 25 times that of the other pill? I think if you were honest you would admit that your purpose in this is not to assure ‘informed consent’ but to try to influence women to chose childbirth over abortion. REPLY II from Kindley: << The fact that the death risk from childbirth is 10 to 25 times greater than the death risk from an abortion is clear from actual death rate data on both. >> >According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute (www.agi-usa.org), there is >"one death for every 530,000 abortions at 8 or fewer weeks," and "the >risk of >death associated with childbirth is about 10 times as high as that >associated >with abortion." Assuming for the sake of argument that these figures >from >the research arm of the abortion industry are correct, this would mean >that >the risk of death associated with childbirth is about 1 in 53,000. By >contrast, the risk of dying from breast cancer associated with having >an abortion is around 1 in 100. >Yes, in answer to your question, I do of course think women have a >right to know about the risks of childbirth. John Kindley Hi, You are not seriously questioning the fact that an abortion carries about ten percent as much relative risk of death as childbirth are you? And that is for the USA on average. Worldwide the childbirth death rate is much higher (as it was for most of human history). Did you see the WHO report a few years ago that about 500,000 women die per year world wide from childbirth complications? Even in the US, the rate is higher for some places and for some groups. Your "around 1 in 100" ABC rate is not considered to be established by the medical profession. Note that Polly Newcomb is from the UW-Cancer Research Center. You are claiming a 1% increase in relative risk and filing lawsuits because it is not included in the "informed consent" literature, but an established 900% (to 2400%) relative risk factor is ignored. You would not file a lawsuit over that omission. So this is not really about informed consent. ,,,,,,, _______________ooo___(_O O_)___ooo_______________ (_) jim blair (jeblair@facstaff.wisc.edu) Madison Wisconsin USA. This message was brought to you using biodegradable binary bits, and 100% recycled bandwidth. For a good time call: http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4834