The pictures are worth a thousand words. I have a blast with these boats. Twins in all dimensions accept length. One measures 17ft, the other only one foot behind. I have surfed 5ft whitecaps and bounced of rocks in whitewater at N.H. with these Marine Mahogany plywood, clear fiberglassed hulls. I have only got one year out of these boats and would like to sell them so that I may move on to other fun projects. All gear included for only $2200.00 a piece, or if you keep my friends together, I can work something better.