abhaya, rig feinnid

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>From: Jim Clancy >Organization: Forbairt >Subject: Re: Tuatha >Comments: To: CELTIC-L@Danann.hea.ie >To: CELTIC-L@LISTSERV.HEA.IE

>> But I am still at a loss to get an overall picture of the colonization of Ireland. For what's it's worth, the mythology speaks of the Fomor, the Tuatha De Danaan, who were supposedly in Ireland at the same time of the Firbolgs, and then finally the arriving Gaels.

>> If the Gaels were a Celtic tribe or group, and the Celts in general began arriving in Ireland about 300 B.C., when might the Gaels (Sons of Miled?) have arrived there? >> >> Thanks for any clarification, where possible.
>> >> Paul_Carr@BBS.MacNexus.Org

>The simple answer to your question is that we just don't know who >occupied Ireland before the Celts. All we know for certain is that >it was occupied from the late Neolithic period and Celtic artifacts >began to appear about 300 BC.

>There are some *theories* that the earliest inhabitants migrated >northwards from Africa or Spain along the Atlantic seaboard. These >are supported by the fact that the earliest evidence of habitation in >Ireland is on the west coast.

>The Fomorans, Fir Bolg, TdD and the rest are *all* mythological, >although the TdD, being named after Dana, could give them a certain >credibility and indicate that they were the first Celts to arrive in Ireland. >Many scholars are of the opinion the the Sons of Miled was a fabrication of the bards to provide a suitable lineage for certain Irish nobility.

>Hoping this adds to the confusion...>Shae

Dear Shea,

Found this item from the *gterma* treasure trove:

--"*Parthalon* is by our most ancient authorities recorded to have come into Erinn about three hundred years after the Deluge. [Some bards date said matter as 5,000 years ago] He is said to have come from *Migdonia*, or Middle Greece, with a small company; but among these we are told that there were three Druids, whose names are given: *Fios, Eolus, and Fochmore* (Intelligence, Knowledge, and Inquiry)...

The next colony, led by *Nemid* and his sons, is said to have come from *Scythia* [now the stretch from Macedonia to the Ukraine, area, too, of the old Celtic trading outpost and kingdom *Galaetia*,whose path stretched from the coasts of Spain and Brittainy to the silk roads of China and India] about three hundred and thirty years after the coming of *Parthelon*. *Nemid's* sons were: *Starn, Iarbonel 'the Prophet,' Fergus 'the Half-Red,' and Aininn*. And this colony soon, according to our oldest records, came in contact with the power of hostile Druidism, to which they opposed their own *Nemid*, it appears, had not remained long in peace in the country, before he was disturbed by the incursions of the sea rovers, who are known in our old writings under the name of the *Fomorians*...

*Beothach*, [son of 'the Prophet'], we are told, with his clan went to the northern parts of Europe [centered in Poland], where they made themselves perfect in all the arts of Divination, Druidism, and Philosophy, and returned, after some generations, to Erinn, under the name *Tuatha De Danaan*. *Simeon Breac* with his clan wandered southward into Greece, and in many generations after returned to Erinn under the name of the *Firbolgs*...

We now come to the Milesian colony. According to our ancient tradition, these people, who were also Japhetians [the supposed earliest settlers of Ireland], passed in their migrations back from Scythia into Greece, out of which they had previously come; then into Egypt, then into Spain; and so, from Spain into Erinn, which they reached about two hundred years after the conquest of the *Tuatha De Danaan*, that is, in the year of the world 3,500 or above, 1,500 years before Christ, according to the chronology of the Annals of the Four Masters [known, too, as the Book of the Four Seasons, our Druidic "teachers"...].

In the entire course of migrations of this people, the Druids hold a conspicuous place. Among the most remarkable was *Caicher*, who is said to have foretold to them, on their way to Spain, that Erinn was their ultimate destination."
Eugene O'Curry, from *Manners and Customs of the Ancient Irish*, (Dublin, 1873).

Mr. O'Curry notes, too, that "the European Druidical system was but the offspring of Eastern augury," a matter that, given the nature of Eygpt being the farthest "known reaches" that had been discovered at that time of the ancient Indo-European cultural "birthplace" of Vedic India, is most presciently remarkable.

With said type of cultural analysis in mind, one has to be careful of making overly broad statements about "African," as that continent's history and peoples tend to be vastly different from one another, in the same way as "white" is ludicrously imprecise.

Perhaps one of the best examples of how different is the historical figure of Hannibal of Carthage. Despite the"cultural revisionism" en vogue "these days," Hannibal's "actual facts" are that he was partly noble aristocratic Roman and partly noble Semitic Phoenician (of Palestine/Israel/Judea of David and Solomon). What makes his tale singular in the eyes of History is his use of "many cultured" warrior forces assembled, say, as a Fenian or Arthurian "private police force" of "all for one, one for all."

One can now see "the secret of Hannibal" in terms of his success not as a pirate or "buccaneer of olde," as these wannabe "Robin Hoods" mish-take him, but a man "thrown back upon himself and his wits-in-exile" learning, ala, say, a Michael Collins, and the "art of survival." Hannibal was so good at blending in to his environment, like a "stealth ninja," say, or "ronin:masterless samurai" looking *just like everybody else* in Roman and Greek ports and towns that he always eluded capture just when the rent-a-cops of Rome thought "we got 'em this time!"

Though "revisionist" histories, stumbling over their collective selves in the rush to be "politically correct," note that the Roman historian'sdescriptions and attempts at state-propaganda calumination-by-association of Hannibal as "not a typical African" in his refusal to degrade female captives as "war booty" is an "early example of racism," the more *realistic* view can be seen, say, in the writings of another noble aristocratic Roman-in-exile, St. Augustine of Hippo, who chose to return to the Mediterranean shores of North Africa rather than remain in the somewhat "stuffy' atmosphere of Roman privilege, writing such masterpieces as "The City of God Against the Barbarians at the Gates," as the warring tribes from the inside of Africa, who remained xenophobic about contact with the Vedic Indians, Semitic traders, Greeks and Romans, etc.,who arrived from time to time, struck the missionary Augustine as "hopelessly ignorant" with the rituals he observed, albeit as an outsider, of "rubbing one's face in the dirt" to "absolve" the pharmakos-stain of the tribal member "human sacrificed" just prior, the precursor to the Santeria religion popular now in America and Haiti. In other words, the Greek-founded colonies of Carthage and Alexandria became "cultural crossroads" for a number of people(s) wishing to escape the stifling nature of "one's own," and as in the postulation of the Irish Alexandria, ("Roman Fort"), a place of "civilization" in the true meaning of respecting another's "right to be let alone" as one exchanged gifts and learning to envision "self as other."

With regards to the Semitic traders, as the histories note, they were never interested in "colonizing," as said matter would tie up valuable resources in creating forts, military defences, people to command the outpost and outlying area, etc. By trading and not engaging in the "usury" tossed at these wise ancient peoples they became a welcome presence everywhere they went, which, according to the "America B.C." theories (not being an archeologist I do not know about the validity of the alleged "evidence"), included the eastern coasts of America, and, given the trading routes the Celts established along the coasts of Spain, Brittainy and the western shores of Ireland, and, too, the pattern of "non-exploitation" of the local inhabitants of an area gives plausibility to that book's claim that "Algonquin" language and ancient Gaelic are remarkably close, with Indo-Vedic roots in Sanscrit as well. One might *confere* this "non-interference" policy, remarkably like, say, that noble Greek Alexander the Invincible, with how the Puritans played "disease-warfare" with tuberculosis and smallpox-riddled blankets as "trinkets" to be schmirkingly "offered" to the "non-scientific" natives, and how the Spanish privateer mercenaries "in service to the Queen" razed and destroyed like the Conquistadors did in Latin and South America...

In the interests of "political correctness," nonetheless a bit baffled, I've avoided the following observation about the "wildly successful" committee-speak book "It Takes a Village," as the alleged "author," Hillary Rodham Clinton, half-truth identifies the origin of that phrase as "African." Once again, without wishing to *deny* the common underlying "world mythos," as Joseph Campbell, say, has identified in such astoundingly researched tomes as "The Masks of God: Primitive Mythology," I'm a bit surprised that the so-called "Native American experts" on the list have failed to see that mine own Lakota elders find that phrase a most reverent part of our tribe's history. Growing up in upstate New York and seeing the communal nature of the "Longhouses" of the Six Nations of Hiawatha, Algonquins, one finds that phrase and notes, too, other remarkable coincidences of architecture, hunting, scouting, military tactics, etc., with yet another "clan raising a child" responsible culture, our Celts...

The Mystery of Religion

Date: 23 Nov 1996 20:20:22 -0000 From: Rudra Mac Cuhmaill ;forasnai@hotmail.com To: CELTIC-L@LISTSERV.HEA.IE Cc: Subject: Re: Celticness [+ mystery religions ] Sender: CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List. ;CELTIC-L@listserv.hea.ie

[ comments by rudra/tom follows:]

[new addition with posting, 10/2/97,10:30 AM, that rudra/tom s futuristic script, Some Enormous Fiction, has been openly cannibalized by Luc Bresson s Fifth Element through good ole Widdle Linda Reston/Merle/Pamela Highet/Ole Money-Bags Herself , Jane Fonda and the French neo-Nazi collaborationists and something billing *it*-self as the Lesbian Klan/CIA ?!? Go figure or Go Fish, if you dig what I mean...; the same group trashed rudra/tom s other film script oft referenced in *his* postings, Green River, about toxic wastes being dumped down abandoned coal mines in Pittston, Pennsylvania-- for which rudra, i.e., Thomas Francis Noonan, Soc. Sec. # 062-48-4940, received a grant in 1980-1981 from the Fund for Investigative Journalism for an article for Mother Jones magazine, his editor Adam Hochschild--the gutted, most boring and wasted result out in the box offices as Steven Seagal s Fire Down Below. ]

--To answer your assumption, Colleen, yes, early Christianity, in the practice of the Gnostics, were classified as a mystery cult. I'm currently at work on a screenplay making loose use of the period in a futuristic setting, called Some Enormous Fiction, the phrase deriving from a newly-powerful Roman Catholic Bishop, Iraneus, who, unlike his more enlightened forebearer, Clement of Alexandria, saw fit to exterminate these Gnostics as a pernicious disease having its roots in Judea, the source of everything foul and despicable...Every day they invent some new enormous fiction. These Gnostics, having been told to disperse by the Christ shortly before his demise, took to living in the Roman Catacombs,or, as History recorded the journeys of some of the disciples, fleeing to what is now Poland, and a Celtic center of the time (Mary the Magdelene, depicted in Russian Christian Icons as the Black Madonna, i.e.,a black Irish type of [technically Caucasian, fair-skinned and featured] Semite, dusty and wearied as well by the exposures of the road, holding a son to her breast rumored to be that of the Christ's), Mary the Mother reportedly winding up along the Rhine in what is now Germany, along with--are you ready?--Pantera, the Roman Centurian-turned-diplomat rumored to be the natural father of the Christ; and, for now, last but not least, Doubting Thomas, responsible for the Gnostic and very Zen-like Book of Thomas (as both Mary's are responsible for the Gnostic Book of Mary ), the disciple Simon Judeaus Thomas, called the Christ's spiritual twin, supposedly making his way back to the Essene Therapeut base and colony in Alexandria with Philo, who, delayed along the way to Judea, nonetheless managed to find out what in the world happened to the Christ? , and then journeying down the Nile before crossing over into [Saudia Arabia], retracing the footsteps of Moses, finally making his way into India.

As a Gnostic text along the lines of The Essene Handbook of the Earthly Mother and the Heavenly Father exists, the sheer poetry within reputedly the work of the Christ, teaching one how to purify and seek ye the Truth through proper devotion to the feminine principle, as embodying Nature, as the masculine principle, as shaping and ordering, why, in the politically correct deconstructuralism of these clever Founding Church Fathers seeking empire, not liberty, all such teachings became heretical and any joyous, natural sensuality as recorded in these wondrous works, became, ala the Manichiesm cult of the body is the source of evil, the seductions of the devil. Some priests, fond of young boys, as the Catholic Church is plagued with *these days*, would seduce their alter boys, a custom made p.c. by the Caesar's, then, in bouts of guilt and How could I DO such a thing? flip-flops, perform ritual castration on not only themselves but too the helpless young men (the rationalization handed down over time being that, without testosterone, the seed of the devil, why, their voices would remain high and pure for singing in the choir at mass. The revisionism applied as well to the life story of the Christ, and the apparition seen by Mary the Magdelene, most Druidic and shape-shifting (or in my pendent Tibetan Buddhist tradition, Garuda or psychic presence appearing physical ), yet, in the block-headed ir- rationality fettering us now (and since), spin-doctored into my way or the highway [to hell] type of cult-control in full bloom among the American Jihad religious fundamentalists here...

RUDRA

laboremus, Rudra Mac Chumaill,
Namgyal Monastery ,Dharamsala, India

--Our Day Will Come...in the meantime, as Gustave Flaubert said of la plat a la mode, let us not become poisoned by the filth of modern life

--When born into a *munus sine missione*, a *vir fortis*, one *gladiatorio animo*, has only to *recto tibi invictoque moriendum est*. (Seneca, *Epistulae* 7.4)

-- Wealth that is acquired by proper means in a manner
That harms none will yield both virtue and happiness.
Gurudeva's Vedas, Trikural Verse 754

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