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  • Anyone for Self-inflicted Damage?
    Proverbs 23:29-35

    Some people say, "The Bible does not condemn alcohol but alcoholism."
    So when did things change from a stance of total abstinence?

    Are these, below, conflicts?

    No, they are not.
     

    Back to abstinence
    So what about Psalm 104:15 does God give blessing to alcoholic wine?

    How do I know "water" means saltwater or lake water or stale water? I cannot, because it means H2O

    Oinos means "fruit of the vine" simply. Never fermented or alcoholic.

    Number 6:1-4 the concept of being careful
    This Nazirite has voluntarily abstained from various
    The grapevine was special in some way

    "Strong drink" is not fermented
    shakar (Strong's 7941) in Syriac has to do with date palm and its juice

    Deut 14:26,27

    tiyrosh (Strongs 8492) Joel 1:10 new means fresh brand new

    Isaiah 16:10 this is freshly pressed grape juice not fermented and yet it is called wine 1