About "Conversations with God"

 

Question:-

I have been reading "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch and also “The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight” by Thom Hartmann. The ideas in these books resemble much of what you have written in your books and articles. Is there a connection between you two or between these ideas? Walsch claims to be a Messenger of God who has received revelations which he has written down as a new Scripture. What is your opinion of these claims? Are his ideas compatible with Islam?

Answer:-

No there is no direct connection between these books though there is a resemblance because both are dealing with Religion, which when genuine, have the same basic truths and both are adapting these to the contemporary world. But there are also some major differences.

I came across his books in June 2007, but I have been writing on the same subject since before 1980 and these articles have been on my website since. It is remarkable, however, that his "Conversations with God" was first published in 1995 in the USA, and in the UK in 1997, and the first edition of my Book "The Alternative Way" was also first published in 1995 in the UK. But I have continued to learn and add and amend to this as knowledge and understanding increased.

His ideas seem to be a revolt against conventional Christianity as taught and practiced and a mixture of ideas from Hinduism and Buddhism, combined with Christian Theology, New Age ideas and typically American attitudes of irreverence and freedom, whereas mine are based entirely on Islam, which he appears to have totally ignored. However, the thesis in his book appears to be based on what in Islam is called Tawhid (Unity). There is a difference of attitude and formulation, but the difference may be much more fundamental.

Yes, there is Truth in his book which seems to be inspired and impressive, particularly for people who have not heard such ideas before. It may become the basis of a new Religion that will appeal to Americans, and particularly the New Age Movements. The two books, his and mine, could possibly be regarded as complementing each other or as rival view points.

But, the fundamental differences should be noted:-

In what follows I will use the abbreviation CSG for the book "Conversation with God". The numbers in brackets are references and refer to chapters and verses in the Quran.

(1) CSG supposes that the Universe was created because God wished to know Himself and that this required the division into the Knower and the Known, thus creating Relativity. The process of knowing is obviously the third factor, the relation between the other two. Knowledge for human beings is always relative. We understand things only by comparing and contrasting and this requires dividing and linking them again. According to CWG this is the Trinity of the Christian doctrine - the Father is the Knower, the Son the Known or vice versa and the Spirit connects them, but they are assigned different roles in different parts of the book.

Comment:-

The Islamic position is given in a Hadith Qudsi (a revelation to the Prophet Muhammad) as follows:-

"Allah said: I was a hidden treasure. I wished to be known, therefore, I created the World."

This does not state that Allah wished to know Himself. It states that He was an unmanifest treasure. It refers to Truth with which He created the Universe. It refers to the purpose of the Universe. The gradual development of consciousness and knowledge is a Universal process of evolution caused by the introduction of Truth into it.

The Quran affirms the creation of the pair in all things (51:49-50), but requires us to "flee unto Allah" Who is One. Knowing is a process. We acquire knowledge by a process, but the goal is not a process. That is a state of Being.

Everything in the Universe is Relative because it contains a multiplicity of things which are related together because they derive from a Unity (54:50). But Relativity is itself relative to the Absolute, which is One (13:15, 38:66, and 39:4). God is the Creator of all things, Omniscient and wholly self-sufficient (2:231, 2:267-268, 4:35, 112:1-4 etc. etc). He is the Real (22:62), His Word is Truth (6:74) and He created all things with Truth (15:85, 16:3). He is the Knower and that which is to be known and knowing comes through His spirit. We are therefore told: "Say not 'Three'. Desist! it is better for you. Allah is only one Allah." Quran 4:171. There is a relationship between the whole and the part but the part is not God, but has meaning only with respect to the whole, God.

Christians do not understand the Trinity as CWG suggests. They understand the Son as the Word of God and identify with the man Jesus.

 

(2) CWG supposes that man is god. Then man can know God and God can know and experience Himself through man.

Comment:-

This idea appears to be based on a literal interpretation of what Jesus said quoting Psalms 82:6 in the Old Testament:- "Ye are gods: and all of you are children of the Most High" The Christian Scriptures, however, defines "Sons of God" as those who are led by the Spirit or Word of God (Romans 8:14, John 1:12-13, John 10:34-35).

According to Islam, Man is a physical being with the Spirit of God in him (15:29 and 32:9). This creates souls, which can be considered to be organisations, bundles of truth, and therefore distinguishable from each other. These souls are limited and can grow or atrophy. (95:4-6, 91:7-10). Man is a Vicegerent (2:30), an instrument through which the Universal purpose is fulfilled, a servant of God. Man is not god, which from the description of Allah in the Quran as the all pervading, omniscient, omnipotent, wholly self-sufficient and self-existing creator of all things is wholly absurd. He is independent of all creatures (3:97), but He certainly works through all things - they are instruments. Man is an agent of God having been given some of His powers. The concept of "Allah" is, therefore, not the same as that of "God" in the CWG thesis. Indeed it is fully apparent from observation that man is not Allah. Can a cell in the human body be mistaken for the man? It is thesis in the Quran, as in the Old Testament, that Man has become alienated from God, and therefore also from the spirit in him (59:19), and from all who also contain the Spirit. That is the main cause of all his malfunctions. He is, therefore required to grow spiritually (91:7-10) and Awaken (34:46, 6:123). He is required to Surrender To God. That is what "Islam" means. We read: "Lo! We belong to Allah, and unto Him are we returning." Quran 2:156

 

(3) CWG considers all souls to be perfect. It does not matter what they do or choose to be.

Comment:-

This idea is based on the supposition that Time is cyclic and that the whole of it is contained in the "Now". The journey of the soul in time is towards perfection, identification with God. Therefore, at the unconscious level man has already reached perfection. But Islam is concerned with the present state of consciousness. It is his consciousness that identifies his spiritual state.

According to the Quran man was made perfect in that he has potentialities to evolve. But that does not refer to his present condition. "Surely, We have created man in the best of moulds. Then We reduced him to the lowest of the low; save those who believe and act right; for theirs is a reward unfailing." 95:4-6

This reduction may, of course refer to his forgetting who he is. He is required to grow spiritually (91:7-10). He does this by receiving the spirit, and the increase in Truth which it brings (3:77, 3:164,7:53, 8:24, 20:76). It is Truth by which the Universe was created.

It is, however, true to say that everyone acts according to their state of being and that everyone is in the right position in the scheme of things where they can learn and evolve. They can learn from both success and errors, from pleasure as well as pain, from fortune and misfortune. Both lead the same way, one by attraction to one pole and the other by repulsion from the opposite pole. These experiences modify the Being of a person which also causes changes in motivation and behaviour. Each person can therefore, be regarded as being in exactly the right position in the scheme of things for his own evolution. He is a point of convergence and divergence of forces in the Universal Field which is a network of all kinds of forces.

 

(4) According to CWG God is a process, ever changing, ever becoming. He is creating Himself through man who is also a process of becoming. It is usually supposed that God is Constant, but according to CWG change is the basic condition of existence. That is why constancy such as habits, rules and institutions cause tension and suffering. Change causes insecurity and fear. That is why people try to get rid of it by creating fantasies, rigid institutions and organisations based on rules that have to be enforced through coercion. This is oppressive to the soul that requires expressing itself freely, and causes it to rebels.

Comment:-

This does not accord with the Islamic idea of Allah, who is infinite, the creator and source of all Truth.

We also seek Knowledge, and try to develop suitable motives and abilities because of the insecurity, thereby fulfilling the Universal purpose. The contradiction between one thing and another constitutes a problem. (In this case it is between external change and the desire for inner control which life requires). Indeed, the original separation into the pair can be regarded as the basic problem. Life is about solving problems, thereby restoring the Unity. That is its Universal function. But a distinction must be made between three kinds of solutions:- The Objective Solution (e.g. seeking knowledge etc), the Illusory solution (creating rigid rules etc.) and the Solution in Fantasy (escapism).

The CWG idea appears to be the result of supposing that energy, behaviour, is the fundamental reality. From the Islamic point of view Being precedes doing and is the source and goal of activity. A distinction can be made between Truth (or Information or Order), energy and matter, a triad which corresponds to the triad, soul, mind and body, a distinction also admitted in. CWG. It is Truth that accounts for Being and Soul while energy or behaviour accounts for doing. There is first Allah who creates by Truth. Truth precedes creativity, which is an activity. Energy itself arises from Truth as matter arises from energy. The process of Creation is a manifestation of God and it is His Attributes that are manifested in the Created world. Thus the basic relative distinction CWG makes between Knower, Knowing and Known, or between Creator, Creation and Creature, which Islam also admits, implies the distinction between Order, Energy and Matter. Certainly all things in the Created world are constantly changing. This is a view in Time. Change is happening because it is evolving towards a goal. But that is something constant.

Without Truth which refers to order and regularity it is not possible to distinguish, recognise, identify, predict and control anything. Existence, Life and Knowledge would then be impossible. Certainly God is creative. But change and constancy are recognised relative to each other. Truth or Information refers to something constant whereas energy refers to change. Behind change there is something constant, laws which govern the change. Though these laws may also change more slowly, there is something constant behind them also. Too much order of course creates rigidity. Change requires flexibility, which requires some chaos. One could say that at the level of the Absolute, there is no distinction between order and chaos. But all things, even atoms are constant though they contain motion. Motions can only be compared relative to something that is taken as stable. It is the purpose of the religious discipline to create a stable Self from which all changes can be assessed and controlled. The aim to achieve Eternal Life implies that we incorporate change.

 

(5) The basic idea on which the whole CWG thesis rests is that all human souls are one with God. Therefore every decision and action made by anyone person is the decision or action by God, and vice versa.

Comment:-

This appears to be naive Theology. The Islamic position is that all things are done by the power of God and by the permission of God. But there are several levels of reality and forces and laws connected with them (65:12, 7:54). This determines different levels of possibilities and limitations, enabling some things and preventing others. Man too consists of several levels and can function from any of these. His actions can be reflex, instinctive, conditioned reflexes, rational, or conscious to various levels. It is only when a person surrenders to God directly i.e. to the Spirit of God within him that his actions are directly those of God.

The CWG idea of God seems more like the collective soul described in Quran 4:1, which is God's creation, not God. There is a distinction between the Spirit (Ruh) that proceeds from the Word of God (17:85) and Soul (Nafs), which, though it derives from the Spirit is specific to the creature. The Quran agrees all human souls derive from one soul and that Humanity is One (2:213). They certainly belong genetically to one family, and are bound together through physical, commercial, social and cultural forces and processes. It can be said that the relationship between the Collective Soul and the Individual Soul is like that of a person and his cells - when he does something it is his cells (e.g. those of his arm and other organs that supply the energy) that are doing it and vice versa. But even realising this identity requires awareness which people ordinarily do not have. The whole point of religions as originally taught is to establish methods by which this consciousness can be developed.

 

(6) According to CSG there are basically many dichotomies and contradictions in the world owing to the arising of the pair of opposites which describe creation. However, there is a constant cyclic to and fro from one to the other. There is, for instance, an expansion of the universe and a contraction, and there is a forgetting of ones real self and an awakening.

Comment:-

From the Islamic point of view, however, Creation is also a Unity and that means there are no contradictions - all of it forms a self-consistent system. Things can be seen from different angles and these views may appear to be mutually contradictory, but they are partial views that have not comprehended the object. They have mistaken the view or thought for the object, the experience for the reality. There is, therefore, a distinction between the real and our thoughts about it. The pair of opposites complement each other and maintain a shifting balance. There is, for instance evolution and involution each depends on the other. CWG, however, does not to make the distinction and supposes that we create reality by our thoughts.

 

(7) CWG speaks of God as Love, as in Christianity, and supposes it to be the basic force in the Universe. This is connected with the idea that all human beings are collectively God and that they create themselves and, therefore, also create God by their thoughts.

Comment:-

The CWG description of God seems rather limited. The Quran describes God as having a comprehensive set of Attributes that are also reflected in creation where we find a great number of basic characteristics. The CWG description is confined wholly to man and ignores the rest of creation.

Love requires a separation between Lover and Beloved, though it tries to recreate Unity. This can only occur after something has caused separation. It is true of course that creation includes benevolence, the desire to supply and sustain that which is created and also provides the attractive force. But CWG uses the term to mean identification in which case it is more like the Islamic idea of "surrender". But that is a question of consciousness, of being aware that "Self" includes others. Love is a motive not a state of Being from which the motive flows. Being is Truth.

In ordinary use of the word "Love" has all kinds of ambiguous and often base meanings. The Quran uses terms such Compassion, Benevolence and Mercy. CWG defines Love as life, eternal, unconditional and free and believes that Love is the opposite of fear. But Hate seems to be a better opposite, while the opposite of fear is hope and the opposite of greed is faith. The triad faith, love and hope appear to be inter-dependent spiritual impulses, the absence or inversion of which cause the various malfunctions.

 

(8) The central theme of CWG is knowing and constructing "Who You Really Are" and "Who You Choose to Be". We construct ourselves as follows:- Our thoughts leads to Being which leads to experiencing which leads to what we are which leads to thought. So we have a circle.

Comment:-

Note that this cycle leaves out the environment, the rest of creation, all together. It is a wholly subjective cycle. The idea of "self" appears to be ambiguous. A person can think of himself to be his body or mind or soul or all three together. CWG admits this but supposes that we have to choose who we think we are and should construct it. It is true of course that Reality is what we think it is, but nothing is said about what forms our thoughts. No distinction is made between Personal Reality and Objective Reality. From the Islamic point of view there is an Objective World apart from human thought with which man interacts and he is modified by interactions with it. He, like the Universe, has been made by God according to an ideal pattern (Quran 30:30, 91:7-10, 95:4-6). His welfare and development depends on conformity to this. He can both construct and deconstruct himself. ("Your thought which ye did think about your Lord, have ruined you; and ye find yourselves among the lost." 41:23.)

Man is dependant on the world for all the matter, energy and information that forms him. Certainly the actions of the individual modify him, but they also modify the environment he lives in. This reacts on him and he responds to it. He receives an input, processes the data received, and creates an output. This is an input for the environment which also processes it and produces an output, some of which becomes an input for man. His experiences consist of the effects of events on his mind, and his behaviour depend on three things:- (i) He does, of course select what he sees and interprets it, and his responses depend not directly on events in the environment but on how he interprets them. This depends on previous experiences and the framework of reference he may have acquired from his culture or from particular teachings. (ii) His own inherent make up and (iii) the efforts he makes are two other factors that affect his behaviour. However, human beings are not conscious of all the forces that affect them. What they are conscious of is only a small part of what they could be conscious of if they turned their attention to it. Much is, in fact, even suppressed into the sub-conscious. And all that is only a small part of all the forces and processes within them and those that affect them from outside. The real objective circle is between the person and the rest of the Cosmos of which he is a part.

It is, of course, necessary to remember that the environment consists of several levels and has a physical, mental and spiritual aspect. Truth exists not only in the external world but also within human beings, in their bodies, minds and soul to which they have a more direct contact and through which they also interact with the external Truth. Human beings are part of the Total Reality and that is what they have to progressively comprehend.

 

(9) CWG believes in Free Will and supposes that human beings "choose" everything that happens to them.

Comment:-

What can possibly be meant by choice? Causeless actions? It is either a case of going with the stronger of two or more desires or of "eeny meeny miny moe", neither of which is a "choice". The Islamic attitude is the very reverse of this, that we cannot "choose" anything (13:15). Behaviour is determined by external and internal causes. We cannot do anything that our nature does not allow. "Choice" simply refers to alternatives and is possible only if we have consciousness, knowledge, motives and abilities, which we have to a very limited extent. We have to develop these by means of suitable techniques. As long as man is alienated from God his behaviour is not controlled by the Spirit within him but is controlled by lower causal forces, though all causal forces ultimately come from God and are attributed to God. It is by submitting to God, who is Truth, that man can be free from all other forces. Therefore, in order to modify ourselves we need to put ourselves under suitable causal forces and undertake a discipline. Scriptures are of course also causal forces. It is, however possible to do oneself harm as well as to benefit ourselves depending what causal forces we put ourselves under and what actions we do. It is the Ego, the false self, that causes a person to think he is a god and behave accordingly (Quran 25:43, 4:27, 5:77, 18:29). It is this that is responsible for all his malfunctions, delusions and problems caused mainly through the interdependent triad, greed, fear and hate. This causes "spiritual death". Spiritual resurrection, therefore, requires the death of the ego (Quran 6:123) and vice versa.

 

(10) CWG tells us that we are whatever we choose to be and should be free to behave that way and that is Who We Really Are.

Comment:-

The Knowledge of "Who We Really ARE" is in our unconscious mind and cannot therefore, be said to be true about ordinary conscious human beings. It is true of course that we resent and rebel against anything that restrains us - external restrains or compulsions constitute oppression. But it cannot mean doing whatever one likes. One ought to do what is beneficial. But CWG points out that values differ, and everyone thinks he is right. This is not strictly true. There would be no guilt feelings if they did. According to Islam we have been made according to a certain pattern and ought to behave accordingly. But CWG is about man as he should be, as he was originally made, a state also mentioned in Quran.

"Then set your purpose for religion as a man upright by nature - the nature made by Allah in which He has made men; there is no altering (the laws of) Allah's creation; that is the right religion, but most people do not know - turning to Him only, and be careful of your duty to Him and keep up prayer and be not of those who ascribe partners to Him." 30:30-31

This acknowledges that human beings do not behave that way.

But it is true that everything we do has inner and outer consequences within us and our environment and that our behaviour depends on our self-image, on what we think we are. But the fact is that we have forgotten our own souls, what we are, and need awakening (58:19 and 34:46). Obviously, of course, as this applies to all, what happens to the individual is limited by the collective behaviour of all and that is constrained by the behaviour of the rest of the world and ultimately by the laws and purposes of God. We are driven by our own motives but also react to what happens to us. Perhaps CWG means the same as "There is no compulsion in Religion." (2:256). Scriptures are guidance not compulsions or straight jackets (3:137 etc.). It is of course impossible that any spiritual growth can occur when a person is controlled by others. But we are also told that those who are rightly guided have control of themselves (5:105) and that the evil that befalls people also arises from themselves (4:79). It is, however, true to say that striving for self-fulfilment is the built in goal of all, that everyone acts according to their State of Being, and that everyone is in the right position in the scheme of things where they can learn and evolve. They can learn from both success and errors, from pleasure as well as pain, from fortune and misfortune. Both lead the same way, one by attraction to one pole and the other by repulsion from the opposite pole. These experiences modify the Being of a person which also causes changes in motivation and behaviour. Each person can therefore, be regarded as being in exactly the right position in the scheme of things for his own evolution. He could be regarded as a point of convergence and divergence of forces in the Universal Field which is a network of all kinds of forces. All paths eventually lead to God (Quran 2:155-156, 7:29, 41:20-23, and 55:26-27).

 

(11) CWG does not believe that Satan exists, but explains human malfunctions as the result of forgetting. It acknowledges that man malfunctions, and claims that they must re-construct themselves. This is done through a process of increasing remembrance. Forgetting is part of the plan. Without it there can be no remembering.

Comment:-

It is true that man must reconstruct himself (Quran 9:109-110), but this can produce either bad or good results and needs guidance. A stable structure requires Truth, the power of God, otherwise we get an unstable, crumbling one. The story of Satan may very well be Symbolic but it does refer to some kind of Reality. It is not just that man does things out of ignorance (having forgotten) but he also does things from fantasy, prejudice, addictions, greed, pride, lust and so on and he is gullible and deceives himself. According to CWG man has created the idea of Satan, but also tells us that man's thoughts are creative, that he creates Reality. That would then also apply to God. It is true of course that for man Reality is what he thinks it is and that change in thought changes that Reality. But from an Islamic point of view there is a distinction between Objective Reality, (Reality as seen by God, and as it exists apart from human observers) and Personal Reality, (that which Human beings experience as Reality). We are required to make the second progressively identical to the first. On the other hand it may well be that ideas are useful rather than true and some ideas are more useful than others in some contexts and not others.

 

(12) CWG tells us that there is no good and evil.

Comment:-

It is true, of course, that God transcends the pair and that objectively things simply are. But the distinction between Good and Evil follows quite naturally from the relativity that the creation of the Universe involves and the purpose of its creation. They are understood with respect to a purpose - whatever fulfils the purpose is good and whatever flouts it is evil. We are told in the Quran that all good comes from God and all evil comes from man (4:79). What God has created is good in contrast to things man does. There is also a distinction between how man behaves and the true nature of man, the purposes he was built for. Apart from doing what is harmful to his built-in purpose, it is also man who judges things as good or evil according to how things affect him subjectively and this usually conflicts with what is truly beneficial or harmful for him. Good and evil, therefore, do exist.

Free will, of course, implies that God is not omnipotent and CWG supposes that God is powerless to interfere with man or that He is indifferent. Certainly God is self-sufficient and has no needs (Quran 3:97). But He does have a purpose which is not the same as need. It is this that provides objective values and distinguishes between good and evil - one serves the purpose and the other flouts it. However, it is true that when we consider the consequences, pleasure and pain, then as one attracts to one pole and the other repels from the other, both lead to the same result. This is due the fact that organisms are built to react that way. The purpose is built into them.

 

(13) CWG does not believe in Divine Judgement, punishment and the existence of Hell.

Comment:-

In fact, we know that pain and suffering exist and that many people do exist in their own mental Hells here on earth. It seems to me that the very idea of the relativity of things in this world require the dichotomy between pleasure and pain, and paradise and Hell, as also does the idea of a Universal Purpose. According to CWG there is only the Law of Cause and Effect and consequences of actions resulting from that. But that is also the Islamic attitude (5:105, 10:109, and 17:15). But as God is the creator of these laws the consequences can be regarded as the Judgement of God. God is Just and that implies judging according to Law.

 

(14) According to CWG the whole of Creation is an Eternal Cosmic Wheel which exists in the "Now" - everything repeats itself and coexists. But he says we create our own reality. There is no ascent or descent and no part is higher than any other. As everything has already happened, all the knowledge we have or acquire is merely remembering. This, of course implies that we have forgotten and need to go through the experiences in order to remember. The forgetting, and denial that human beings also practice, is part of the plan according to CWG, because without it there is no process of remembering. This would deprive God of experiences through us - self-knowing. But the question is: Why then provide the religious teachings? The answer seems to be: To awaken and cause us to remember. But by the CWG thesis if everything has already happened, then so has our remembering. And the whole of the process of development is already contained in us. This is the justification for the idea that we are already united with God. Having remembered, the soul can travel at will through any part of the Cosmic Wheel which it pervades.

Comment:-

It is agreed that Awakening is the purpose of Religion (34:46). But if existence is a Wheel, an Eternal repetition, then there seems to be no point in any effort whatever. All are free to indulge themselves as they will. Then creating our own reality cannot be true either. We could, however, argue that as we do not remember in the "Now", then none of this is true for us. As long as we are apart from God, it is not we but God that is the cause of all things. In fact, all Truth belongs to God and we acquire it gradually from Him. But what if Time is not a wheel but a spiral or that the wheel is embedded as part of a still greater wheel? From the Islamic point of view we come from God and return to Him, as do all things (2:28, 2:156, 210, 3:83 etc). But this also involves a judgement in that whatever is not perfected is recycled. But as there was once only God, then He created the Universe, so it will be rolled up again leaving only God (21:104, 28:88). So there is a simultaneous as well as a successive coming and return. There is a cycle, but whether this cycle repeats itself exactly is not stated. It may not. It may be a spiral or a cycle within a greater cycle. If the end of the cycle is a forgetting, then it cannot concern us. We have to deal with the present one. It is our only Reality. If the Universe is repeatedly created and destroyed and recreated and destroyed as science speculates and the Quran appears to confirm (10:35) then each of the cycles may well be different. From the Islamic point of view Allah is Infinite and His words are infinite (18:110, 3:174, 22:64). His creativity is therefore inexhaustible. If the total number of particles in existence is finite, then the number of combinations that can occur is also finite. Then given infinite time things must re-occur an infinite number of times. But at the fundamental level there are probably no particles that can be distinguished from one another and these as well as time and space that relate to them are creations. These notions do not belong to fundamental Reality but belong to the limited mind that thinks in terms of relativities. If time is a dimension then if our awareness expands until it comprehends the whole of it as God does then obviously there are no cycles. If we reach the goal of spiritual evolution, reunion with Allah, then there are no more cycles for us.

It is agreed that ultimately there is nothing but God and all things are manifestations of Him to various degrees. But it is not agreed that created things that are limited are God. However, the goal in both cases appears to be the same, namely Union with God, or the realisation of this fact, and therefore, also the unity of mankind, though this is formulated as "Surrender" in Islam. It is not difficult to understand that all human problems, psychological, social and even environmental, arise from separation, alienation, or disintegration, not in reality but in consciousness. Human beings have a built-in desire to seek happiness and escape suffering and the spirit within them seeks unity with God.

 

(15) According to CWG we are not here on earth to learn but to remember. But it is also claimed that we are required to construct reality.

Comment:-

This idea of remembrance is based on the idea that Time is an Eternal Cycle.

It is true that as all Truth is in God, then the Universal Purpose is a question of remembering that Truth – no cycles are required. Indeed, If it is merely a question of remembering then there cannot be creativity. From the Islamic point of view, man as an agent of God is also an instrument through whom God’s creativity proceeds. But man learns and develops by fulfilling his purpose. Islam is not in favour of withdrawal from the world. Life in the world itself contains all the opportunities and challenges required for his development. Certainly, human beings are creative and have transformed this planet. They may also in the future transform the Solar system, the Galaxy and beyond. It is also true that the Reality man sees depends on his state of consciousness. Therefore, the expansion of consciousness creates his Subjective Reality. There are many levels of Reality, the Seven Heavens, but God is beyond these. There are correspondingly seven possible levels of consciousness. Human motivations and actions also depend on their perception.

"And be not like those who forgot (or forsook Allah), so they were made to forget (or forsake) their own souls: these it is that are the transgressors (of their purpose)." 59:19 

In Islam, Remembrance refers to an exercise, a meditation, the first Pillar of Islam. (2:200,  2;152, 3:191, 7:205, 18:29,  29:45, 40:60). The purpose of this is to remind one of God, one’s relationship with Him, the nature and purpose of heaven and earth and ones function with respect to it. It is to reinforce the memory and, therefore, the relevant motives and behaviour. However, in so far as the Spirit of God is in man and he is the product of the same forces that form the Universe then it could be said that learning is the same as progressive remembering. Indeed the whole of the process of evolution depends on learning or progressive remembering and can be defined as such. It can also be regarded as a progressive actualisation of what is contained as potentialities in the previous stages and in the beginning or in the origin.

 

(16) There is also a problem with the meaning of words, apart from the different meaning for the word "God". For instance:-

(a) According to CWG envy is a good thing because it leads to striving for excellence, though competition is disapproved of in another part of the book. The Islamic view, as that of other religions, is that envy is an evil (3:19, 4:32) because it is a desire for what others have, causing hate whereas people ought to desire what is good for them. It is covetousness. Competition, however, if it is for something good is approved of (5:48).

(b) CWG insists that God does not judge and yet the book is certainly full of judgements. It turns out that this word is understood in connection with being "judgemental", a subjective state of approval or condemnation, rather than as assessment of things objectively as being fit or unfit for a purpose, or being beneficial or harmful.

(c) The words "good" and "evil" are used in the same subjective way, instead of referring to some thing that objectively fits or flouts a purpose. Islam uses the word "error" instead of "sin" though that also means "missing the mark".

(d) CWG uses the word "equality" to mean "similarity" and denies that equality can exist or should be aimed at. This is perfectly true. However, when it is used in connection with Justice and Law, it implies that things should be measured by the same standards. In fact, in a Relative World, in order to judge differences of any kind we need standard measuring devices.

(e) CWG condemns the idea that love is the desire to give to others on the grounds that all things are done for oneself. Certainly love involves joy in giving and relieving the discomfort one feels owing to compassion. What he was condemning was the obligation to give which is an outer compulsion as opposed to an inner impulse.

(f) There is also confusion between the purpose of an institution and its functioning and the concept. It is true that many human institutions such as marriages, political, economic, educational and cultural systems malfunction. But it is not necessary to get rid of an institution when it functions badly but one can improve it to fit the purpose better. This, of course changes the institution. But it is not necessary to change the general concept. Otherwise one could say the same about human being that malfunction. There is a difference between the word and the reality.

There are several other such ambiguities throughout the book that one needs to be careful of. But there is some advantage in changing the meaning of words in order to stimulate thought, draw attention to ambiguities in usage and dispelling unwanted aspects of it. But it can cause misunderstanding and confusion.

 

(17) CWG denies that the basic instinct in man is to survive and thinks that it is to express one's essence.

Comment:-

This is true, but this does involve the need and desire to survive among other things such as social interactions, reproduction, self-extension and self-fulfilment. But CWG does tell us that an ideal society would provide "the basic survival needs" for all.

 

(18) CWG tells us that Highly Evolved Beings (HEBs) live by certain Guiding Principles:- (i) We are all one. (ii) Everything is interconnected and related. (iii) There is no property but only Stewardship.

Comment:-

It is not difficult to see that these are also Islamic Principles to which Muslims are required to strive.

 

(19) The point to be made here is that if something is to be beneficial and true for people, and not merely a set of interesting impersonal ideas, then three things are needed:- (i)A correct and inspiring set of ideas are certainly required. These must not only show us a goal but also our failings and its causes and a way from one to the other. But this is not enough. (ii) It is also necessary to have a set of spiritual techniques by which transformation can be achieved. (iii) Thirdly because human beings are interdependent and also dependent on the rest of the environment it is necessary to create and maintain a social system that will facilitate development. This must deal with family matters, education, culture, the physical environment (cities, farms etc, industry, commerce, business and politics.

 

(20) I do not deny that it is possible for people to communicate with God and receive direct guidance as stated in Quran 2:120 and 28:56, 40:15 if they are sincere. God could well answer prayers and questions through thought, feeling, inner experiences and outer events. In fact, many people including myself ask for Divine guidance, especially when dealing with religious matters. But this cannot contradict what has been revealed to Messengers of God. On the other hand each area requires a different way of stating things and each age, like each class in a school or college, does require further elaboration. There are many people who present and teach spiritual ideas. But as CWG has also affirmed, an inspiration is filtered through the human mind. That which emerges will then also depend on the nature of that mind and its experiences. It seems to me that to deny the reality of Satan is to remain unaware of (a) the subjective processes of the mind where desires, wishful thinking, selective perception, prejudices and fantasies and (b) also cultural conditioning affect thought and deceive a person unable to discriminate between these and (c) objective experiences that come from interaction with Reality. But Satan has no power over those who believe and rely on God (16:99) People differ in their capacity to experience and transmit the objective truth. Those with the highest capacity are generally known as prophets and saints, if they are recognised by others who can also discern their qualities.

 

(21) From the Islamic point of view the Prophet Muhammad was the last of the Prophets (Quran 33:40). Man has reached adulthood and must take responsibility, and learn from his own experiences. But the verse does not say he was the last of the Messengers, and that word is applied in the Quran to others besides Prophets, e.g. angels that came to Abraham. All those who teach spiritual idea, those that go beyond the secular and cultural fields and concern themselves with development and heightening of consciousness could be regarded as Messengers. But there are several degrees or levels of these. CWG uses the term "Messenger" in a much looser sense than it is used in the Quran. Whereas all Prophets are Messengers, not all Messengers are Prophets. According to Hadith Spiritual Teachers would be sent after Muhammad (saw) to renew religion from time to time. These can perhaps also be regarded as Messengers of God. There are, of course others, who have made claims to Prophethood and they too may simply have studied and interpreted previous religious ideas that they present as coming directly from God. We have people like the Reverend Moon, and the founders of Baha'i and the Ahmadiyas (Qadianis). A number of new cults and sects of various kinds have appeared in the USA, including Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Christadelphians and Scientology. Another recent one appears to be Maitreya founded by an ex-Sufi.

(22) As for the book “The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight”, it is very good that has brought together some of the very serious environmental, social and ideological problems that the world is facing today and also presents some solutions. It is book that should be widely read and newer information from modern research should be added. The problem, however, is that the majority of people are only interested in trivialities and fantasies and rendered politically too impotent to make any difference. It seems that the power groups that control all affairs including industry, government and information wants things to remain so and actively encourage it in the power group’s own interest because it makes people much more controllable and exploitable. But it is the members of the power group themselves who have become victims of this process and see it as normal. Humanity is in a trap from which there is no escape, except through an awakening that requires its own special techniques.

(23) As Hartmann points out, people are “disconnected” from each other and from the nature – in the terminology I used they are “alienated” from Reality, and therefore from each other, from Nature and from themselves and from God. It is evident from a study of the contemporary state of man that far from the claims to civilisation, freedom and even Democracy made by the so called “advanced” nations, they are still barbaric and that they are trapped in fantasies, illusions and superstitions though of a different kind from the past. They do not, in fact have freedom but are slaves to ignorance and self-indulgence and far from the self-determination that Democracy implies affairs are manipulated by a small group of those who hold the wealth, power and prestige, who are themselves enslaved. It is the System that controls people and not the other way round.

(24) Though some of the psychological problems have been identified, it seems that both books have failed to notice that it is the entry of women into the industrial and commercial sphere and the consequent break down of the family and the psychologically adequate bringing up of the new generation which is both the result and the cause of much of the greed, lust and self-centredness that has produced the world problems. It can hardly be denied that the relationship between the sexes and between parents and children have a most important influence on the psychology and behaviour of human beings. Human motivation is controlled by three sets of drives – the self-preservative, the socio-sexual and the self-extensive. It is sexuality that joins the sexes and through reproduction creates the society and that is a network of families bound by genetic links. It is this drive that harnesses the self-preservative as well as the self-extensive drives – it causes the feeling of self to expand and cover spouse and children and through them to other relatives. Being creative, it also by sublimation provides the creativity that is responsible for the expansion of civilisation and human development. But there is no real understanding of the different natures and roles of men and women and women are still oppressed but in a different way. Though membership of a family and the married state occupies most of life, there is education for it at all.

(25) There is also an answer in my articles to the problems posed by Hartmann’s book. The gist of this as follows:-

Humanity is living on the energy of the sun, not only on that which is radiated onto the earth now, but also stored on earth over millions of years in the form of coal and oil that were once absorbed by plants and animals. This store is gradually running out and at an accelerating speed. We will then have to live only on the solar energy that is falling on earth now. This will either cause much starvation and death – animals are already going extinct – or it will be a stimulus to the development of alternative technologies or to space exploration and possible migration. The earth not only receives solar and other forms of energy from the rest of the cosmos, but it also radiates some it back directly R(d), absorbs and transforms R(t) some and re-radiates it R(r). It is only the balance between what is received and what is radiated that is available for the development of the earth itself.  However, this can be stored as reserves or “obstructing fat”, or the development can be positive or negative, constructive or destructive, and it may or may not be beneficial for man. Global warming and the resulting unpredictability of the weather that is causing much global distress is a result of such surplus energy. It is perfectly possible to improve the proportion of what is absorbed, radiated and re-radiated by more efficient means of absorption and transformation and also to utilise that energy in much more efficient ways. This is not yet fully realised.

 

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