Package-Stampings!
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An in-process listing of the numbers that are physically PRESSED into the package on RiD, Armada, etc packages. Thanks to Karl, Esteban, and Zob for their information. I've made a feeble attempt to combine their info into a coherant whole. If it seems confusing, blame me :-) I've added the numbers from my end where applicable. There will still be holes in the list; if everyone else could check their packages, and let us know, we'd be grateful. Note that the complex-numberings in parenthesis are the Hartman's original list, and sorted by year of release. The simple numberings are Crazy-Steve's and Zob's additions(many of which were culled from Kaybee toy shelves), and do not necessarily correspond to the year-sort format.
Why do we want to track these numbers? Easy! It's a variant! :-) Actually, to quote Karl: "Keeping track of these would be a great way to try and see when and for how long certain variations shipped. Jon and I finally broke down and started keeping track of these when the 3rd packaging variation of Supercon Prime was spotted (Blurr as well). These are three different package versions, and chronologically make sense with the date codes."
RID: the numbers were a little bizarre, as far as the sequences go...and then there was an...unexplained skip in numbers(maybe they were using the chinese calendar:-). Armada: seemingly much more reliable. (Karl: "I will tell the actual toy, and the six number-decimal-four number package variation, and then the date code. If we have more than one date code, both are listed."
(see also: case assortments)
RID
Basics:
Hot Shot/REV (608295.0400) {12641}
WARS/Crosswise (608295.0400) {12641}
Rollbar (608295.0200) {12501}
Rollbar (608295.0300) {12571}
Rollbar (2 of 5) {20871}
Rollbar: 22591, 22631, 12521
Armorhide (608295.0200) {12501}
Armorhide (608295.0300) {12571}
Armorhide (3 of 5) {20871}
Armorhide: 22591, 12521
Movor (608295.0200) {12501}
Movor (608295.0300) {12571}
Movor (4 of 5) {20871}
Movor: 22631, 12521
Ro-tor (608295.0200) {12501}
Ro-tor (608295.0300) {12571}
Ro-tor (5 of 5) {20871}
Rotor: 22591, 12521
Obsidian {20581}
Obsidian: 22631, 20811
X-Brawn/Scourge {13201}
X-Brawn/Scourge: 22631, 20741
Optimus Prime {13201}
Optimus Prime: 22631
Ultra Magnus {13201}
Ultra Magnus: 22631
KayBee Spychangers: All with {21641}
Kaybee Spychangers: 21731, 22801
Deluxes:
Grimlock (608317.0800) {12391,12431}
Grimlock (1 of 4) {20761}
Grimlock: 21171, 22671
Heavy Load (608317.0900) {12391,12431}
Heavy Load (2 of 4) {20661}
Heavyload: 13501
Wedge (608317.1000) {12391,12431}
Wedge (4 of 4) {20761}
Wedge: 20691
Hightower (608317.1100) {12391,12431}
Hightower (3 of 4) {20741}
Hightower: 22751
Mega-Octane (608317.1200) {12661}
Mega-Octane: 12331, 12961, 13101, 20301, 20141
Storm Jet {20731}
Stormjet: 21201
Prowl (608317.1300) {13201}**
Prowl: 21131, 20551
X-Brawn (608317.1400) {13251}**
x-Brawn: 13421, 22851
Sideburn (608317.1500) {13101}**
Sideburn: 20501, 20241
** Note: These last 3 were pulled from one case, which shows that the whole
process wasn't totally reliable. The second set of these that we got, also
pulled from one case had the date code of {13421}.
Megas:
Sky-byte {12561}
Decepticon 3 pack {12561}
Railspike, white windows (609291.0000) {12561}
Railspike, Metallic windows (609291.0300) {13171}*
Railspike: 13601
Rapid Run, white windows (609291.0100) {12561}
Rapid Run, blue windows (609291.0400) {13161}*
Rapid Run: 13561
Midnight Express, metallic windows (609291.0500) {13041}*
Midnight Express, white windows (609291.0200) {12561}
*Note: I don't think these were pulled from one case, because we were
scrambling to find these after reading about them on your web site.
Autobot 3 pack {?????} (Jon didn't write it down for me.)
Ultras:
Galvatron {12731}
Galvatron: 21081
Megatron: 21081
Megatron {12731}
Others:
Air Attack Optimus Primal {23071}
Air Attack Optimus Primal: 21071
Scourge {?????}
Sideways Vs. Axer {20781}
Sideways Vs. Axer: 20841
Megabolt Megatron {20811}
Megabolt Megatron: 21261
Cryotek: 12821
Armada:
Mini-Cons
Air Defense Team (614657.0000) {21321}
Air Defense Team (614657.0500) {22061}
Air Defense Team: 22401
Land Military Team (614657.0100) {21321}
Land Military Team (614657.0600) {22061}
Land Military Team: 22891
Street Action Team (614657.0200) {21321}
Street Action Team (614657.0700) {22061}
Street Action Team: 21381
Race Team (614657.0300) {22061}
Race Team: 22671
Destruction Team (614657.0400) {22061}
Destruction Team: 22401
Street Speed Team with NEW Sticker (614657.0800) {22671}
Street Speed Team without NEW Sticker (614657.0800) {22851}
Space Team with NEW Sticker (614657.1000) {22671}
Space Team without NEW Sticker (614657.1000) {22851}
Adventure Team with NEW Sticker (614657.0900) {22911}
Adventure Team without NEW Sticker (614657.0900) {22961}
Supercons
Hot Shot (614815.0000) {21431}
Demolishor (614815.0100) {21431}
Cyclonus (614815.0200) {21431}
Cyclonus: 22921
Laserbeak (614815.0300) {21381}
Hot Shot (614815.0700) {21521}
Demolishor (614815.0800) {21521}
Demolisher: 21431
Cyclonus (614815.0900) {21521}
Smokescreen (614815.1000) {22311}
Smokescreen: 22781
Sideways, with Crosswise with Red Knees (614815.1100) {22311}
Sideways 1: 22331
Sideways, with Crosswise with Purple Knees (614815.1100) {22491}
Optimus Prime with NEW sticker (614815.1300) {22831}
Optimus Prime without NEW sticker (614815.1300) {23101}
Optimus Prime without NEW sticker (614815.1700) {23221}
Blurr with NEW sticker (614815.1400) {22831}
Blurr without NEW sticker (614815.1400) {23101}
Blurr without NEW sticker (614815.1800) {23221}
*(not really part of the Supercons, but his number is in the sequence.)
**Note: The most recent package version of the first three Supercons were
rereleased in very recently (not sure of the exact date code) with the second
comic. Furthermore, it is assumed that any year one Armada toy released in a
case with a year two Armada toy, is packaged with the second comic. I have
seen reports of Starscreams and Hot Shots with the second catalog.
Maxcons
Starscream (614621.0000) {21621}
Starscream: 22361
Red Alert (615667.0000) {21621}
Red Alert: 22631
Scavenger without NEW sticker (617424.0000) {22691, 22891}
Scavenger with NEW sticker (617424.0000) {22771}
** Note: This is the exception to the rule. Notice the sequence of date
codes. Scavanger was the first to ship of the third wave, and first shipped with no
NEW sticker. He was then shipped with it, and then had it removed permanently,
like the rest of the third wave.
Gigacons
Megatron (614418.0000) {21681}
Megatron (614418.0100) {22501}
Megatron: 22431
Others
Optimus Prime (614819.0000) {22141}
Optimus Prime (614819.0100) {22281}
Optimus Prime: 22541
Urban-Camo Ruination: 23031, 23241
MISCELLANEOUS:
Heroes of Cybertron
First Assortment {21071}
Second Assortment {22901}
HOC wave 1: C-232B21281
HOC wave 2 Ultra Magnus: C-232B22091*
HOC wave 2 PMOP Spark Attack: C-232B 22791*
HOC wave 2 Thundercracker: C-232B 22791*
--* Note that for HOC wave 2 the stampings began
transitioning from one single number with a big
font (Ultra Magnus) to two seperate numbers in
a smaller font with a spaced seperation in the
stamping.
Toyr R Us Commomoratives
Commemorative Series 1 Optimus Prime:
C-1063A21601
Commemorative Series 1 Rodimus Major:
C-1063A21601
Optimus Prime {21671}
Ultra Magnus {21691}
Rodimus Major {21601}
Go-Bots:
Buzzer-Bot {22971}
Dino-Bot {22971}
Reptron {22971}
Beast-Bot II{22971}
Aero-Bot II (608336.1300) {22981}[02807/02896]
Prowl-Bot (608336.1000) {22981}[02897/02896]
Fire-Bot (608336.1100) {22981}[02898/02896]
Strong-Bot (608336.0800) {22981}[01892/02896]
Aero-Bot (619025.0000){22751}
Silverbolt (619025.0100) {22751}
Silverbolt (619025.0200) {22871)
Box Codes: From Crazy-Steve
Thanks to the following Star Wars fan site:
http://members.aol.com/heybtbmtwo/december.html&e=912
, I found out how to decode the Hasbro date stamps on
each Transformers case and product package. It turns
out they're encoded using the Julian calendar, a
system which assigns each day of the year a number
from 1 to 365.
For Transformers, the date codes are 5 digit numbers
after the 'C-1063A' or 'C063A' portion of the
stamping. The first digit is the last number of the
year-for example, '1' is the code for 2001, '2'
represents 2002, etc. The next three digits are the
actual day the item was packaged. The last number is a
check digit-the company code for production order or
time of day. So in the following example:
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23101
...the date code is 23101. It means this case was
packaged the 310th day of 2002. These date codes have
been used on TF cases and packages since RiD,
including HOC. It's as close as I can get to figuring
out my TFs' 'birthdays'. Here's a reposting of all the
numbers off the recent Armada cases I've seen, with
slight revisions and refinements:
80701.0007 ARMADA MINICON ASST WV3.5 R1 C036A230*1
80701.000B ARMADA MINICON ASSORTMENT** WV3.7 C036A23521
80701.0009 ARMADA MINICON ASST WV4 C 36A30161***
* This digit is only partially printed-it's either a '3' or an '8'
** Note that as with the Supercon cases, 'ASSORTMENT'
is actually spelled out here
*** Note the blank where the '0' usually follows the
'C'. I've seen other cases with this date stamp that
have the '0'. It may just be that on this case the '0'
portion of the stamp didn't have enough ink or
something.
80703.0005 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV2 C036A232*1
80703.0005 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV2 C036A23361
80703.0005 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV2 C036A23471
80703.0006 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV3 C036A30091
* This digit is smudged-it's either a '9' or a '0'
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23101
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23221
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23311
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23501
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3 C-1063A23621
80705.0001 ARMADA GIGACON ASST WV2 C-1036A23291
80705.0001 ARMADA GIGACON ASST WV2 C-1036A23301
80705.0002 ARMADA GIGACON ASST WV3 C-1036A30211
* Note how for the Supercons and Gigacons there's a
dash '-' between the 'C' & '1', unlike other cases
that just run the 'C' and '0' together
80724.0000 ARMADA SUPER BASE ASST WV1 C063A23371
80724.0000 ARMADA SUPER BASE ASST WV1 C063A23411
80724.0000 ARMADA SUPER BASE ASST WV1 C063A23511
80724.0000 ARMADA SUPER BASE ASST WV1 C063A23551
-Esteban and his Evil Rubber Tires
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In this episode of Armada date codes gone wild, more
dumpster diving mayhem leads to a few new numbers to
chew on. In this round there's a Maxcon wave 3 case
packaged Feb 21, a Supercon wave 4 packaged March 2nd,
and a Gigacon wave 3 packaged Feb 11th. I haven't
spotted any cases of the Target exclusive Gigacons
with free minicon recolors, but they have been showing
up in nearby Phoenix. I expect they'll be here in
Tucson soon.
We just got the word that the wife and I will be
getting stationed in Turkey within the next few
months. So between selling the house and all the other
chaos that comes from moving, I probably won't have
much time for fun stuff like the internet. I think we
may still be able to got to Botcon, but it'll
defenitely be my last one for a looong time......
80701.0007 ARMADA MINICON ASST WV3.5 R1
C036A230*1 [Oct 30, 2002]
C036A23361 [Dec 02, 2002]
80701.000B ARMADA MINICON ASSORTMENT** WV3.7
C036A23521 [Dec 18, 2002]
80701.0009 ARMADA MINICON ASST WV4
C036A30161 [Jan 16, 2003]
C036A30671 [Mar 08, 2003]
* This digit is only partially printed-I can't tell if
it's a '3' or an '8'. I'm going with 3, but if it's an
'8', the date is Nov 4.
** Note that as with the Supercon cases, 'ASSORTMENT'
is actually spelled out on the 3.7 case
80703.0005 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV2
C036A232*1 [Nov 16, 2002]
C036A23361 [Dec 02, 2002]
C036A23471 [Dec 13, 2002]
80703.0006 ARMADA MAXCON ASST WV3
C036A30021 [Jan 02, 2003]
C036A30091 [Jan 09, 2003]
C036A30521 [Feb 21, 2003]
* This digit is smudged-it's either a '9' or a '0'.
I'm going with 0, but if it's a '9', the date is Nov
25.
80702.0005 ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV3
C-1063A23101 [Nov 06, 2002]
C-1063A23221 [Nov 18, 2002]
C-1063A23311 [Nov 27, 2002]
C-1063A23351 [Dec 01, 2002]
C-1063A23501 [Dec 16, 2002]
C-1063A23621 [Dec 28, 2002]
80702.000B ARMADA SUPERCON ASSORTMENT WV4
C-1063A30081 [Jan 08, 2003]
C-1063A30251 [Jan 25, 2003]
C-1063A30471 [Feb 16, 2003]
C-1063A30521 [Feb 21, 2003]
C-1063A30561 [Mar 02, 2003]
80705.0001 ARMADA GIGACON ASST WV2
C-1063A23291 [Nov 25, 2002]
C-1063A23301 [Nov 26, 2002]
80705.0002 ARMADA GIGACON ASST WV3
C-1063A30141 [Jan 14, 2003]
C-1063A30211 [Jan 21, 2003]
C-1063A30281 [Jan 28, 2003]
C-1063A30421 [Feb 11, 2003]
* Note how for the Supercons and Gigacons there's a
dash '-' between the 'C' & '1', unlike other cases
that just run the 'C' and '0' together
80724.0000 ARMADA SUPER BASE ASST WV1
C063A23371 [Dec 03, 2002]
C063A23411 [Dec 07, 2002]
C063A23511 [Dec 17, 2002]
C063A23551 [Dec 21, 2002]
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