To try to find a common line of understanding between our two formulations, I would say that the dimension of supraterrestreses could be the cosmic sun dimension, of the cosmic conscience. Universes turn around sun manassique that is the galactic universal center and all turn around the cosmic conscience, a way of core to leave of which all moves. It is from this core that could exist an axis in contact with intraterrestreses. According to our information the solar cosmic conscience expresses himself on three niveaux s: the global conscience that is centralized in solar system suns, the universal conscience that is centralized by suns manassiqueses that are centers of every galaxy there where resides the solar beings and then the cosmic sun that is another sun manassique, it is the only sun around of which orbits all universes and that is the home of the cosmic conscience and all beings that lives on this vibration. He/it exists a hierarchy that is triple therefore, the trinity - according to the religious interpretation.

In the center of the Earth, exist a very multi-dimensional civilization. There are different levels that are lived by the terrestrial beings coming down from certain extinct races as those of the Earth of Propelled, of the Atlantide, of the very old civilizations that have been warned before cataclysms and that are himself reconcentrées inside the Terre ; it is some terrestrial groups. Him then there are the extraterrestrial groups especially coming from March, Venus, Sirius. We speak of physical beings even though they have a dimensional physical structure that is to say different of ours that is to say a body vibrant éthérique on another frequency that ours and often this body cannot appear to our visual faculty in their normal condition of perception, in the real sense. Of a colony to the other, the physical appearance is different enough. Those of March are very big, to the minimum 1,80 ms in general, they are brown and they have of skulls a little oblong oriented toward the rear. Their eyes are stretched a little but their appearance is very near of the human. They could circulate in the street without too to surprise. Those of Venus, but when I speak of them I speak in fact of a group that lives on Venus but that left Sirius I know when but there is a very long time. Among the Sirienses, there are different levels but I can say that the King, the Ruler, the Chief of Shanga of this astral center is descended of Sirius.

To Shanga, in addition of the terrestrial and extraterrestrials there is all the solar astral dimension that operates to Shanga. It is a hierarchy having capacities of mutants. She/it can take a so necessary physical body, the constuire at will, for one instant or for longer, a mission for example in surface. Some are there since several generations and take alliances with the rural. Some have the mi-rural progenies, mi intraterrestres. There is a very precise number of intraterrestres on the surface of the planet. I cannot communicate you him but it is located by thousand. Some are especially delegated to take contact in progress with certain important people for the program, some members of governments notably, of physicists, of researchers, etc...

The presence of this vessel that served screen in relation to asteroids, has this news been transmitted us by Michael Wolf, a character that is known in the domain of research as sensory used since his/her/its childhood by the United State government to develop his/her/its qualities of sensitivité and was it driven to the telepathic communication by the Council of National Security to serve interpreter in contacts between the government and groups extraterrestres s? He/it is always in contact with all this groups alienses that work with the American government. It is a man of big spirituality, we knew him indirectly, I believe that he/it is going to come in Italy to the spring, if he/it is always in life because he/it is very sick because he/it lived a set of misadventures. It is a history that dates of years 70, of which is inspired himself Kübrick to make his/her/its film : Odyssey 2OO1. History is the suivante : in 70 an unknown flying object in shape of parallelepiped has been recovered at the time of a spatial journey. This object, whose measurements were lower those of the device shown in the movie has been brought back on the Earth. He/it has been examined by three personnes s: Carl Sagan, Michael Wolf, and another person The two first already died of a cancer following the manipulation of this object and Wolf says that it was a transmitter of frequencies, an instrument that had to remain there where they had found him probably radioactive and that no one had to touch. Michael Wolf has been saved because "  ils s " told it to drink a solution of water in which had been immersed of vessel fragments. Wolf has at home a vase containing 7 pieces of UFO. He/it drank this solution lasting a certain period and his/her/its tumor disappeared. But he/it is again seriously sick, a way of bone leukemia and I don't know if he/it is going to survive. It is a character particular bus underwent exams that revealed in him of specificities no human notably of the absolutely unknown blood values of the terrestrial. He/it should come to make a conference to Pescara. because we are in contact with Paola, an American journalist that, currently, makes a work with Maurizio Baita. It is a near friend of Michael Wolf and it is her that maintains a permanent contact with the United States. It is her that brought in Italy the Colonel Corso. He/it died a few months ago. Lasting of numerous years, Float took care of the activity management concerning the recuperation of UFO remnants. He/it followed of very meadows this kind of work, he/it was present on the place of recuperation, he/it had meetings with alienses, he/it wrote a book on the Roswel case and deal a lot of information. It is a character that dared to make revelations. . As soon as I would have a confirmation on the arrival of Wolf, I would make it to you to know. I had 2 physical contacts personally with beings of Shanga. It happened on the road of Verona "  par hasard  " I have been stopped by two different characters. The first time it was there are three years and the second time two years ago. During these two meetings, they told me some things that were déterminanteses for the progress of our specific program. These information were not general interest. These two beings had some different human shapes but I think that all two were descended of March.

We have some narrow reports with groups of Martian. They follow of very meadows, also, everything that is directly material and convenient in relation with our life of every day. We didn't have with them of the physical contacts but I think that it is going to make itself/themselves soon because we received indications in this sense. We never went to Shanga in physical body. Only in astral body..

I have been appropriated and have been submitted to exams of medical type and I suppose that it made himself in physical body because of certain particular details of the experience. I went to bed, and I felt a very strong presence close to my head, on the right of my bed. I fell asleep and I woke up two hours after. in the bed after having lived an experience that could be astral but there are the very bizarre things that make me doubt. I especially remember of 3 phases. In the first, I was up in a round piece whose partitions radiated a very intense and soft yellow light at a time and I felt light, light, in a perfect harmony. In the second phase, I found again in a species of steel lung whose partition was transparent. I saw what happened to the outside by an oval porthole species and when I breathed the moisture formed himself on the interior window and that it is a physical phenomenon of the experience that I cannot explain. In spite of the moisture, I saw a man sat close to the device. Did he/it have an orange combination whose hue was so irradiante that I felt régénéré ? I didn't see his/her/its head, but I saw that he/it had to wrists two ways of bracelets color however and that hung a little. Then a to be approached of the porthole, I only saw his/her/its head. He/it bent toward me. His/her/its face was thin, triangular trè and his/her/its eyes were very big in almond. He/it smiled me with a nobility that made me think that he/it was then Asian he/it agitated the hand in sign of encouragement. I smiled him. In the third phase, I found again in my bed, two hours after and a voice told me, "  nous examined your throat, because later you should use him souvent  ".

I cannot affirm that I lived this experience more physically because it is not most important. I didn't give back myself account if yes or no I had, in this precise case, of the medical exams. They spoke me telepathically in Italian. But at the time of the physical meetings they spoke me in Italian but not telepathically. Really.

On the other hand, about ten among have been submitted us in group to undergo exams that lasted one month thereabouts. I was the one that was conscious of it because they had warned me and I felt distinctly that a probe entered in my mouth, in my anus ; a way of needle has been thread in my navel. It was a more pleasant sensation, not painful. They use a method that doesn't look pain like the acupuncture because I continued to feel for example during these strange thing experiences like a probe that entered in me but I didn't see anything physically. For example, I felt something that entered in my mouth like a supple finger way whereas my mouth was closed, and that controled all my teeth and (Carlo shows his/her/its teeth) there, he misses me a tooth and the species of finger made " me  toc, toc  " in the hollow of the tooth. It was, I believe, a way of finger éthérique. .Si one among had us fear and was agitated, they immediately blocked it and immobilized him. It happened 15 years ago. How have we been contacted to follow these expériences s? It is through Valéria that lives some  d'incorporation s " ways ". She/it had to the time a telepathic contact, that she/it has besides still, she/it received messages that she/it transcribed thanks to a typewriter. She/it heard some interior voices.

I don't know the  acturides  " term ". Most groups of "  gris  " are operators - another one that the organic robots that are only simple performers - but also groups of "  gris  " are varied very. For example, he/it exists a race of "  gris  " that is blue. It is the blue race of the Indian Hopises that is programmed directly by Shanga.
When we went to Eugénio with Maurizio Baita in February, Eugénio said that he existed groups of "  gris  " that were rebel to laws of the Confederation and at least one of these groups passed agreements with the world governments. Eugénio defines " them  les policemen of the espace  ". It is performers that are implied in programs of justice. But Eugénio didn't have a lot of contacts with them. I remember he/it had spoken of it for twenty years and the  gris  " term " didn't exist again and he said, "  Je knows the small green men. I know that they exist and that they are " himself  " rachetés  " but it it is in the terminology of Eugénio that is a little religious.

By the way of a physicist Italian Ettore Maiolana who worked in the domain of the atom lasting the second world war, and that disappeared at the time of a crossing between Greece and the Puglia, it is a mystery, one says that he/it fell to the sea and Eugénio sustains that he is in Shanga, that he has been transported over there but that he has been seen by two people whom Eugénio met personally to verify the thing. These two people met the Vesuvius, a character that told to be Ettore Maiolana, very near. Siragusa said that all volcanos were joined between them by ways of galleries and it appears obvious He is also obvious that they are joined to Shanga. These galleries are passages that drive to doors of transfer.

We had two meetings with only one group of "  gris  " through a "  incorporation médiumnique of Valeria, a way of pipeline. They define themselves as of the "  Cro s ". Valéria met one of it in his/her/its room. He/it had 1,60 ms thereabouts. He/it had a face a little granular, of a bluish gray.

According to our information, some genetic manipulations have been made by certain groups of gray that are not under orders of the confederation because they have an independent specific program that can be genetic intervention. Of all ways it is instrumentateurses that are tolerated by the Confederation for the good reason that it is the genetic information that are useful to the human race. Their last tentatives having the tendency to create a hybrid race between the rural and the "  gris s " could be revealed a very important contribution for the survival of our race that is threatened -between other - by the nuclear. In the next centuries, those that will live should cohabit of all ways with the radioactivity and our present resistance to the radioactivity is very bass and he/it is likely that these hybrids should have a more important resistance power. But there is not that the "  gris s " that are implied in these genetic experiences. There are a lot of rural that are it. I mean to conclude that genetics comes in progress from groups of "  gris  " but not of the superior measurements. These experiences are made because probably there is a genetic compatibility between us and them and besides, these new genes are filled of a superior spiritual vibration and it is therefore for us the acquirement of an evolutionary baggage even though the methodology is questionable in certain cases. According to our information, a lot of taking, not all, are not done by races of "  gris  " but by soldieries. Lately, we took a lot of contact with this  ufologique  " middle " because it permits us to insert us in a program of conferences as to Cagliari, in Sardinia. But we are friends with some but especially not with all. For example, we have a report of friendship with Maurizio Baiata. He/it is deeply sincere. Although he/it is not highly spiritual, he/it changed these last times a lot. He/it lived a contact, a few years ago, but he/it didn't live him well. He/it has an interior conflict again now. But he/it has big possibilities of contact.