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     The United Kingdom UFO Network - a free electronic magazine with
    subscribers in over 40 countries.

    This issue comes in 3 parts. 

    In this issue:

    Index
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    Stop Press
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    Michael Lindermann & Stanton T. Friedman

    United Kingdom News
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    [UK 1] Aliens welcome - Britain's first parking lot for UFO's
    [UK 2] Erich von Daniken run over by a rain god
    [UK 3] How easy is it to make a mistake? An amusing story
    [UK 4] UFO leaves couple with 'horrible feeling'
    [UK 5] Report on Radio Wyvern - Spider Web lights
    [UK 6] Is the planet Mars inhabited? (written 1890)
    [UK 7] Chris Arnold and Bentwaters
    [UK 8] UFO sighting in Fife, Scotland
     

    World News
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    [W 1] Navy Drone Debris Found In TWA 800 Wreckage
    [W 2] Join the alien hunt...
    [W 3] Sky News special report. Did we go to the moon?
    [W 4] Dan Sherman (a truly fascinating story)
    [W 5] Fox TV - Pheonix Arizona - March 1997

    The Answers
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    Landing a robotic vehicle on a comet

    A FEARFUL SYMMETRY by D. Lynne Bishop
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    Part 3
     

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    United Kingdom UFO Network are immensely honoured to announce that
    the following are to be very special guests on our UFO irc channel.

    Michael Lindermann: World respected ufologist. Editor of the
    excellent and very popular CNI News internet magazine. Resident
    UFO/ET commentator on the nationally syndicated radio program
    "Sightings On The Radio."

    Michael will be answering your questions live in a moderated meeting
    taking place in late September.

    Stanton T. Friedman: Nuclear Phyicist and UFO researcher. Original
    investigator of the Roswell incident. Author of UFO books and over
    70 UFO papers. A highly respected investigator.

    Stanton will be answering your questions live in a moderated meeting
    taking place in early October.

    All dates are to be finally confirmed. Notification of dates, times
    and irc channel address will be made widely available through many
    internet sources.
     

    United Kingdom News
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    [UK 1]******

    Source: Manchester Evening News
    Date: Thursday 16th August 1997
    From: Adrian Donnelly <alien4596@geocities.com>

    Aliens welcome

    A new urban park in Manchester is just out of this world - it
    features Britain's first parking lot for UFO's.

    A landing pad made from ancient cobblestones has been laid at Hulme
    with some very special visitors in mind.

    Developers have even suggested that a giant arch at the gateway to
    the city will act as a traffic light to guide in alien space craft.

    The landing pad has been laid in Zion square at the 3 million pounds
    [sterling] inner city regeneration area of Hulme and Hulme Park.

    Passing aliens could not have a finer place to land, for the heat
    resistant granite cobbles come from the road which led to the old
    Rolls Royce factory on the site.

    Project director Barbara McLoughlin said: "If ET turns up, we'll make
    sure he's welcomed."

    The idea for a parking lot for UFO's came after a meeting between
    local families and architects over the development of the 15 acre
    park. University lecturer and local resident Dave Ellis revealed a
    study of key lines - thought to be centers of electromagnetic force
    and with strong sporotual significance - where he and other students
    of geomantics found they converged at the site entrance.

    A spokesman for Manchester City council said: "A new public square
    has been thoughtfully designed with extra terrestrials in mind.

    "The local community were keen to ensure Zion Square would be able
    to cope with an alien landing and the surface material is extremely
    resistant and is ideal.

    "We've used a highly durable granite recycled from the original
    Victorian cobblestones that were unearthed on the site."

    Ms McLoughlin added: "It may have started in a light hearted way,
    but the idea has caught the public imagination.  Hulme is a very
    welcoming place - even for those from another world.

    "We're not stupid or crazy either, we're listening to what people in
    the community want."

    Architect Neil Swanson, 37 said: "We were happy to consult local
    people and there's no doubt that granite cobblestones would be among
    the best material to take intergalactic craft."

    Liberal Democrat counsellor Alison Firth said: "Im amazed and lost
    for words, I simply can't see the point of this."

    Work on the park has already started and more down to earth
    attractions include two football pitches, a promenade, themed
    gardens, a childrens park and a busking area.

    [UK 2]******

    Source: The Sunday Times newspaper
    Date: 17th August 1997

    Erich von Daniken run over by a rain god

    By Stuart Wavell

    A British academic team of alien-busters believes it has proved that
    the mysterious Nazca lines of geometrical shapes in Peru were not
    runways for extraterrestrial spaceships, as UFO zealots have long
    proclaimed. But the truth has turned out to be almost as bizarre.

    Ever since Erich von Daniken's bestseller Chariots of the Gods
    claimed in 1968 that the gigantic stylised markings on the Nazca
    plateau were a giant spaceport, the site has been imprinted on
    credulous minds as evidence of an interbreeding programme by
    extraterrestrials.

    In December, Dr Tony Spawforth, an archeologist from Newcastle
    University, led the first expedition to be allowed on to the Nazca
    lines for decades. The five team members, all world experts from
    different scientific disciplines, decided to crack the problem by
    the Sherlock Holmes method: eliminate the impossible and whatever
    remains must be the truth.

    They now believe the bewildering complexity of lines added up to a
    ritual rain-making machine of awesome dimensions. But for a while
    there remained a small, unexplained matter: burial chambers of
    people with extremely long, pointed heads. This apparent confirmation
    of von Daniken's theory of genetic hanky-panky was the last puzzle to
    be explained.

    The clues to the central mystery were hard to find among the
    thousands of straight lines, drawn over a 1,000-year period starting
    in the 4th century BC. Some formed trapezoids, or long triangles,
    almost seven miles in length, others were drawings of animals,
    including a pelican, a humming bird, a spider, a killer whale and a
    300ft monkey. These images, undetected by pilots who first spotted
    the geometric lines in 1926, were revealed in the 1950s by Maria
    Reiche, a German mathematician who was until recently the site's
    self-appointed guardian.

    Spawforth said: "One of the great difficulties was that the area had
    been systematically pillaged over the centuries by tomb robbers
    looking for Inca gold. It was a lost civilisation with no writing,
    and their descendants were ravaged by European diseases after the
    Spanish conquest."

    The team first scrutinised von Daniken's theory. "We had to be fair.
    Just because it sounded improbable, we couldn't exclude it out of
    hand," Spawforth said. The first flaw was obvious: some "runways"
    ran up and down hills, ignoring the flat plain. Even if they had been
    blasted by spaceship exhausts, as von Daniken later claimed, it
    seemed illogical.

    In fact, the Nazca lines are quite shallow, delineated by the
    contrast between the exposed yellow desert soil and the surrounding
    brown surface stones. While poring over hundreds of aerial
    photographs, the team was arrested by one trapezoid containing neat
    piles of stones.

    "We were terribly excited, because here was absolute proof it was
    not a take-off track for a flying saucer, but was constructed,
    revealing the method of construction," Chris Mann said. Mann,
    producer of BBC 1's Ancient Voices series, convened the expedition
    for the programme Flightpath to the Gods on BBC 1 this Thursday.

    They found more evidence refuting UFOs: straight lines were not
    unique to Nazca, indeed they were a common feature in Peru and
    appeared to have some ritual significance.

    The expedition found half the answer among the surviving debris of
    Nazca culture. The ancients were shamanistic: pottery images of
    vomiting figures recalled the hallucinogenic trances of jungle
    medicine men, who enter the world of the spirits in dream "flights"
    to combat illness.

    So Piers Vitebsky, an authority on shamanism from the Scott Polar
    Institute in Cambridge, set off into the Peruvian rainforest to
    interview an Amerindian shaman. To the team's astonishment, the
    latter instantly recognised the Nazca drawings as animal "helpers",
    each valued for its characteristics.

    The shaman's "flights" explained the psychedelic design of the Nazca
    figures, intended to be seen from the sky.

    The religious significance of the lines was confirmed when David
    Browne, an archeologist from the University of Wales, Aberystwyth,
    and an expert on a nearby Nazca temple, noticed that the building was
    an integral part of a trapezoid design. "That was our break-through,"
    Spawforth recalled.

    But what was the compelling motive that had led to the construction
    of the world's largest works of art? The answer was staring them in
    the face  drought.

    "The area is totally dependent on seasonal rainwater draining from
    the Andes," said Spawforth. "It is estimated there have been no
    significant rainfalls on the plain since the last Ice Age."

    Many lines pointed to the Andes, the Nazca plain's source of water.
    All the pieces began to build up a picture of Nazca desperation.
    Analysis of mountain ice showed a 40-year drought. Pottery recorded
    warfare and the taking of severed heads, which were offered as
    sacrifices to the rain gods.

    "The Nazca lines appear to be a vast two-dimensional temple to the
    mountain gods who controlled the flow of water to this parched area.
    The Nazcas made bigger and bigger trapezoids to beg the gods to send
    rain," said Spawforth. The lines were not runways but walkways,
    along which priests would process  "like a vast sacred conga". And
    their pointed heads? The team learnt that the habit of binding
    infants' skulls between planks had been widespread in South America.
    But nobody knows why.

    [UK 3]******

    From: uk.ufo.nw Dave
    Date: August 1997

    How easy is it to make a mistake? An amusing story

    During August of this year an amusing yet non-the-less important
    incident happened to me. One sunny morning my wife returned home
    from shopping. As I was helping her to unload the car I noticed an
    aircraft flying over. It was at a very high altitude and moving quite
    fast.

    Living where I do in Birmingham (UK) it is not unusual to see high
    altitude domestic aircraft using these airways. However this one
    seemed particularly high. I rushed into the house and returned with
    my binoculars only to find that the aircraft had gone.

    There was one solitary fluffy cloud in the sky. I focused the
    binoculars on it and was amazed to see a white ball of light moving
    across the cloud. I observed it for about three seconds and I can
    honestly tell you my blood ran cold. I moved the binoculars away but
    was unable to see it with the naked eye. I tried again with the
    binoculars but it had gone. I said to my wife: "you are not going to
    believe what I have just seen."

    I was left alone outside for a few minutes. My mind was in turmoil
    as to what to do next. This had never happened to me before. As I
    stood there contemplating things I noticed a dandelion otherwise
    lovingly known as a 'fairy' being gently blown through the air by the
    wind.

    It was approximately 40 feet away. I looked at it through the
    binoculars. It was then that reality suddenly struck me. My UFO had
    infact been a dandelion blown along by the wind. As I had looked at
    the cloud the dandelion had flown into my field of view. As it was
    very close to me it was of course out of focus against the sky,
    giving the edges a blurred smooth appearance. No wonder I couldn't
    see it when I looked at the cloud with my naked eye.

    So my first UFO sighting was infact identified as a 'fairy' ;-)

    It just goes to show how easy it is to make an honest mistake. How
    many times has this happened to people all over the world? Do you
    have a short amusing sightings story to tell. It may have happened to
    you or someone else. Send them into us and we will publish the best.
    Please (as usual) let us know if you wish to remain anonymous. Send
    your stories to:

    ufo@holodeck.demon.co.uk

    Subject heading: An amusing story

    [UK 4]******

    From: Steve Yarwood
    Source: Unknown UK newspaper (scanned report)
    Date: August 1997

    UFO leaves couple with 'horrible feeling'...

    ..after a UFO experience on the road from Hope Cove to Galmpton at
    10. 30 last Thursday evening.

    The husband and wife, who have asked for their names not to be
    revealed for fear of being considered cranks, were walking up the
    road towards Galmpton after playing a game of bowls at Galmpton
    Village Hall.

    They were about 300 yards from their home when from the Bolberry
    Down direction on their right flashed a tea plate size white object.

    It came to a sudden stop in their path and instantly switched off.

    The woman gave her description: "it came to us at such speed. It was
    like a shooting star, only much closer to earth. There were no
    flashing lights or anything like that, just a simple white disk."

    "When the object stopped in front of us it was as if a light went
    out. It was a strange, strange feeling, like we were still being
    watched.

    "I didn't say anything because I thought it might just be me who saw
    it, but then my husband shouted "what the heck was that?"

    "I think he was more affected by it than me. He can't stop talking
    about it.

    "It has left us both with a horrible feeling, especially as we are
    beginning to think we were the only people who saw it."

    She reckoned the whole incident lasted only about a second.

    [UK 5]******

    From: uk.ufo.nw Dave

    Spider Web lights

    A colleague who lives over Pershore, Eversham way told me that the
    weekend of 9th and 10 August this year there were reports on Radio
    Wyvern and local papers of spider web? type lights seen in the sky.

    The local police said that they'd had quite a few reports of the
    sighting. They contacted the MoD (Ministry Of Defence) who said that
    there were no aircraft in the area at that time.

    Do any of our readers have further information on this sighting? If so
    please send it in.

    [UK 6]******

    From: "Phil Light" <phil.light@ukonline.co.uk>
    Source: The following articles are taken from 'Curiosities of Science'
    by John Timbs, 7th Edition. Published by Crosby Lockwood and Son
    MDCCCXC (1890) Cost: 2 shillings 6d

    IS THE PLANET MARS INHABITED?

    The opponents of the doctrine of the Plurality of Worlds allow that
    a greater probability exists of Mars being inhabited than in the case
    of any other planet. His diameter is 4100 miles; and his surface
    exhibits spots of different hues, -- the seas, according to Sir John
    Herschel, being green, and the land red. "The variety of the spots,"
    says this astronomer, "may arise from the planet not being destitute
    of atmosphere and cloud; and what adds greatly to the probability of
    this, is the appearance of brilliant white spots at its poles, which
    have been conjected, with some probability, to be snow, as they
    disappear when they have been long exposed to the sun, and are
    greatest when emerging from the long night of their polar winter,
    the snow-line then extending to about six degrees from the pole."
    "The length of the day," says Sir David Brewster, "is almost exactly
    twenty-four hours, -- the same as that on the earth. Continents and
    oceans and green savannahs have been observed upon Mars, and the
    snow of his polar regions has been seen to disappear with the heat of
    summer."  We actually see the clouds floating in the atmosphere of
    Mars, and there is the appearance of land and water on his disc. In
    a sketch of this planet, as seen in the pure atmosphere of Calcutta
    by Mr. Grant, it appears, to use his words, "actually as a little
    world," and as the earth would appear at a distance with its seas and
    continents of different shades. As the diameter of Mars is only
    about one half that of our half, the weight of bodies will be about
    one half what it would be if they were placed upon our globe.

    FOR WHAT PURPOSE WERE THE STARS CREATED?

    Surely now (says Sir John Herschel) to illuminate our night, which
    an additional moon of the thousandth part of the size of our own
    world would do much better; nor to sparkle as a pageant void of
    meaning and reality, and bewilder us among vain conjectures. Useful,
    it is true, they are to man as points of exact and permanent
    reference; but he must have studied astronomy to little purpose, who
    can suppose man to be the only object of his Creator's care, or who
    does not see in the vast and wonderful apparatus around us provision
    for other races of animated being. The planets derive their light
    from the sun; but that cannot be the case with the stars. These
    doubtless, then, are themselves suns; and may perhaps, each in its
    sphere, be the presiding centre round which other planets, or bodies
    of which we can form no conception from any analogy offered by our
    own system, are circulating.*

    *This eloquent advocacy of the doctrine of "More Worlds than One"
    (referred to at p. 56) is from the author's valuable Outlines of
    Astronomy.

    [UK 7]******

    From: crow@crowman.demon.co.uk (Raine & Crow)
    Date: Saturday 12th July 1997

    Chris Arnold and Bentwaters

    uk.ufo.nw says: We believe that Chris Arnold (below) wrote to Raine
    & Crow (uk.ufo.nw staff members) after reading a Bentwaters report on
    their home page. Chris Arnolds letters has now been placed into the
    hands of Michael Lindermann of CNI News for further investigation.

    We ask that if anyone out there has any information on Chris Arnold
    and/or his involvement with the Bentwaters case please mail us at
    the usual address: ufo@holodeck.demon.co.uk

    Chris Arnold's e-mail address currently withheld.

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    Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97

    Howdy, Just wanted to say that as a participant in the alleged RAF
    Woodbridge UFO incident in 1980, I just wanted to advise you that
    you've been well and truly snookered by Halt and his buddies. They
    have no clue.

    Chris Armold

    ---

    Hi Chris,

    Are you telling me that you were actually a participant in the
    alleged RAF Woodbridge UFO incident in 1980? What did you participate
    in? I have had quite a few people email me and claim this, but as yet
    none have come up with any evidence that would substantiate their
    claims. Would you please tell me why I have been well and truly
    snookered by Halt and his buddies, I wonder if you will claim Warren
    was not there at that time? I would be very interested indeed to hear
    your evidence and look forward to some real info from you.

    All the very best..Crow & Raine

    -[continued in part 2]-

 
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    Hi Chris,

    Are you telling me that you were actually a participant in the
    alleged RAF Woodbridge UFO incident in 1980? What did you participate
    in? I have had quite a few people email me and claim this, but as yet
    none have come up with any evidence that would substantiate their
    claims. Would you please tell me why I have been well and truly
    snookered by Halt and his buddies, I wonder if you will claim Warren
    was not there at that time? I would be very interested indeed to hear
    your evidence and look forward to some real info from you.

    All the very best..Crow & Raine

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    To: <crow@crowman.demon.co.uk>
    Subject: RAF Woodbridge
    From: Chris Armold
    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97

    Howdy, It's very strange that someone would ask me for evidence of my
    participation in this non-event when no one seems compeled to require
    Burroughs, Halt and whoever else to substantiate their fantastic
    storys.

    In any case here is some information regarding that wonderful goat
    rope outside the RAF Woodbridge East Gate that December morning. I
    was a member of the 81st Security Police Squadron on "B" Flight Law
    Enforcement.  If I remember correctly (and you must forgive me for
    some memory lapse as you must realize that at the time this was not a
    significant event, consequently it really hasn't been burned into my
    mind, obviously had I seen flying saucers, and little green men I
    doubt I would have any problems retaining the information) those of
    us working were having some fun as we actually were playing music
    over one of the Police Frequencies. It was very quiet and since it
    was the holiday season, not much was happening. Things were pretty
    laid back. In any case, we were playing Music on the Security
    Frequency and the Law Enforcement freq was being used in case
    someone had an emergency or actual work related transmission to make.
     After midnight, John Burroughs radioed the LE desk and reported he
    had seen strange lights in the outside the East Gate on RAF
    Woodbridge. I was actually on RAF Lakenheath hanging out at the Law
    Enforcement Desk at the time. Burroughs, who liked to draw attention
    to himself, often over-reacted to situations and was considered very
    unreliable, wanted to know if there were any reports of downed
    aircraft.

    We called the Control Tower and I even called the local Constabulary
    (I can't remember the town the constabulary was in , but I do know
    it was outside of Ipswich and I think it used to be an air base
    during WWII, I believe the control tower was restored in the 80's)

    In any case, after getting a negative reply from the British Cops,
    My flight chief asked me if I wanted to head out to Woodbridge to
    meet up with Burroughs and see what was up. I grabbed the back gate
    keys, and took the back way to RAF W/B.  I met Burroughs at the East
    Gate of WB.  We left our guns with the guy riding with Burroughs and
    drove to the end of the long access road.  We left our vehicle and
    walked out there.

    There was absolutely nothing in the woods. We could see lights in
    the distance and it appeared unusual as it was a sweeping light, (we
    did not know about the lighthouse on the coast at the time).  We also
    saw some strange colored lights in the distance but were unable to
    determine what they were.

    Eventually we found three depressions in the ground, about the
    diameter of a coffee can in a triangular pattern.  However, there was
    no damage to trees or scorch marks, or any damage to any plant life
    in the area.  We noted the location of the impressions and departed
    the area.

    Burroughs and his partner went back to patroling RAF WB and I
    returned to RAF BW. I reported what I saw to my flight chief. In the
    morning several of us were asked if we would return to the area to
    point out the depressions to some folks who I believe were from
    environmental health.  They did have some type of instrument for
    detecting radiation and I believe they did detect some measure of
    radiation, however I don't think it was a significant amount. During
    the trip to the woods, Lt Col Halt, the deputy base commander (who's
    radio call sign was "Stopper") showed up.  He was intregued by the
    report.

    Now you must understand that we had a very interesting relationship
    with Col Halt. You see he really enjoyed hanging out with the Law
    Enforcement troops.  He found our job interesting and I think he had
    fun.  He would routinely stop by the office on swing and midnight
    shifts on Friday and Saturday nights and ride with patrols. I would
    say he rode with me 10 or 12 times during my time at RAF BW.  I
    considered him a very friendly, relaxed individual and very down to
    earth for an officer.

    Halt essentially said he planned on coming out to the site in the
    evening and one way or another several of us said we'd keep him
    company. The guys I remember were John Burroughs, Adrian Bustamante,
    and me. I think another officer joined Halt, I believe it was Lt
    Bruce England, but I'm not absolutely certain and maybe two other
    guys (Possibly one named Pennington, just can't remember for sure)
    There was however, no army of USAF guys out in the woods.. No fleet
    of vehicles, no towed light rigs, just a half-dozen or so of us
    stomping around goofing off.

    I brought a camera with me and I think Halt had a tape recorder.  We
    were out there for hours and someone noticed some lights in the
    distance. While they often seemed to be very close in reality as we
    tried to approach them we discovered they were very far away. Now
    don't confuse what Ijust wrote. Little balls of light were not flying
    around us or getting closer and flying away.  We initially thought
    the lights were closer than they actually were.

    In the end I would say we were in the woods for 4 or 5 hours. The
    next morning we went home and "B" flight went on break (our three
    days off).  Three days later we returned to work and made fun of
    Burroughs for screwing up our radio fun with his bogus UFO sighting.
     

    There were no secret debriefings, no threats, no sudden assignments.
    Nothing. It was no big deal.

    One of the things that is so amusing about this issue is that I
    didn't leave RAF Lakenheath for another 6 or 7 months. You know,
    after a few days, this entire issue was forgotten.  It just was not
    an issue. When I departed England, I was sent to Grissom AFB Indiana.
    John Burroughs stated on some TV show in the states that after the
    incident he suddenly and unexpectedly received transfer orders to
    Korea, apparently to keep him quiet.  Bullshit. John Burroughs
    departed right on time (we had two year assignments to England) and
    guess where he went: Yep, Grissom AFB Indiana. I had to spend
    another tour of duty with that idiot.

    Ok, so now John and I are in Indiana together. We don't know anyone
    but each other, so we hung out for a few months until we got to know
    other people. Guess what.  He never spoke of seeing a flying saucer,
    or encountering aliens.  He never mentioned the incident again.
    Obviously something one wouldn't likely forget had he actually seen
    or encountered such phenomenons.  Nope, John and I really never spoke
    of the UFO thing at WB because we didn't consider it to be anything
    except some unusual lights.

    John and I spent two years together in Indiana. He later became a K-9
    handler and eventually left the active AF for the guard or reserves
    and I think he ended up in Nevada. As in England, his tour in Indiana
    impressed no one.  Burroughs was unreliable and very self-serving. He
    always tried to do what was best for "John."

    The next time I heard of the UFO thing was when I returned to England
    in 1984. I had an assignment to RAF Lakenheath and two days after I
    arrived I saw a story on the news (on TV) about this book called "Sky
    Crash" about the alleged UFO Incident at RAF WB. I was absolutely
    amazed that anyone would have cared about this non-incident.  I found
    a copy of the book and was absolutely blown away by the rubbish and
    inaccuracies which filled the pages.

    Let me say categorically that there were no space ships, no flying
    saucers, no little green men, no encounters with aliens, nothing of
    the sort.

    Sadly many UFO enthusiasts seem to have focused more on what they
    would sorely love to hear rather than what actually happened.
    Unfortunitaly John Burroughs and Col Halt seemed to have recognized
    that and took these "believers" for a ride.   In any case, I
    seriously doubt that what I tell you will have any effect on the
    history of the incident.

    Burroughs, Halt, Warren who ever he is, ( I have to admit I don't
    remember the name Larry Warren at all?  Is he using a fabricated name
    to conceal his identity? If not I have to admit I honestly have no
    recollection of the guy.  However, if we had shared a real UFO
    encounter I'm sure I would be able to recollect each second of the
    incident in excrutiating detail.) have only their collective hazy
    memories and conflicting accounts to rest on. Ask them why they
    never mentioned me?  Ask them why they never talked about it after
    they left RAF BW?  Ask them how much money they have made from
    articles, TV, and talk shows (or whatever schemes they were able to
    devise to take advantage of this incident.)

    I could go on and on, but you know what, no one cares about reality.
    In any case, that's my small part in this UFO story. Take care.

    Chris Arnold

    [UK 8]******

    From: DLedger001@aol.com
    Date: Sunday 17 August 1997

    UFO sighting in Fife, Scotland
    Saturday 16 August 1997
    12:45 a.m to 1:30 a.m GMT

    Firstly we would like to admit first hand, that we are classed a s
    working class people, and to certain individual opinions this may
    discr edit our statements right away, but we hope there are people
    out there wh o will believe us,and understand we are perfectly
    intelligent and sane pe ople.

    On the morning of Saturday 16th August at around 12:45am, myself and
    my partner decided to let the dogs out onto the back garden, and als o
    to observe an object in the sky, that we have continuously
    encountered over the last three week period, my partner believes it
    to be a planet (pe rhaps Venus), and appears like a very large bright
    star, that seems to dis appear before dawn.

    However on this particular night, we noticed that the sky was den se
    and extremely clear, with only thin hazy patches of cloud here and
    the re. Just as my parner looked up at the sky to our left over our
    shoulders, we spotted what appeared to be just another star in the
    sky, until it beg an to move. We live in a three storey block of
    flats, and we could see thi s starlike object move away from the
    rooftops of the flats towards the so uth and most probably over the
    River Forth somewhere, it seemed to cut th rough the sky with great
    ease, almost like it was gliding, but was actuall y going
    exceptionally fast, it must have been to cover the ground it cove
    red in such a short space of time, it travelled three quarters of the
    sky in approximately 30 seconds, when it came to a sudden halt and
    just rema ined there stationary. At this point i decided to go for
    more people to wi tness what we were experiencing. On my return with
    three other witnesses, I discovered my partner had gone to our next
    door neighbour, so he and h is teenage son had come to investigate,
    swearing my partner was mad. Just as the group of seven at this
    point, congregated in one huddle, what app eared to be at first, a
    shooting star, projecting rapidly, towards the st ationary object in
    a vertical/diagonal fashion from left to right, at a g reat
    speed,then the stationary object took off from a standstill, in the
    opposite direction from its oncoming threat, and just seemed to
    disappear , as did the other object, it just seemed to go up and up
    until it was gon e, but only this object manouvered in a continuous
    line, never leaving it s course, unlike the stationary object.

    We saw the same phenomenon at least five times more, only they we re
    not all heading south, some were heading north east and another
    passed over our heads towards the west. All looked identical, but
    then they were incredibly high in the sky. These events were also
    observed by two new me mbers of the group, whom we had all awakened,
    due to our over excitement a nd disbelief of what we were
    encountering.

    During these proceedings, an aeroplane took off from Edinburgh Ai
    rport, heading South West of where we stood. Even once it was in the
    sk y we were able to compare the sizes of the object and the plane,
    the best description we can muster, is the plane was sized like a
    pea, in comparis on to the object which was the equivelant of a
    needle prick, which sugges ted to us, the object was flying at an
    exceedingly high altitude. (We are no experts, and do not claim to be,
    but it is our own beliefs, they were just inside or outside the
    Earth's atmosphere).

    This whole experience lasted around 45 minutes (01:30 am) and was
    witnessed by nine people in total, although some members came a littl
    e later, but none of us can even begin to comprehend what we saw, but
    we k now we did see it. It has been suggested that perhaps this could
    have bee n satellites, however, how can there possibly be several
    satellites, in t he same part of the sky, going in different
    directions, at the same time, i t seems very unlikely, and what were
    the projectile shooting objects which seemed to always be on the
    other objects pathway, on what seemed a colli sion course.

    We did report this incident to two newspapers, one local and the
    other in a major city, but not to have our story published, merely
    to try a nd find out if this was witnessed by anyone else, but we
    were unsuccessful here, however, one reporter did telephone us back
    and went out of his way to inform us, "no meteor showers or air
    activity, had been reported in thi s area"

    We then called a local Radio Station, after hearing on the grape vine
    that somone else had called the Station to report the same incident
    we witnessed, but because there had been only one caller, I think it
    was d ismissed as a joke, that is until we called. Then there seemed
    a bit of int erest, he obviously could not tell us who the other
    caller was, but he did provide us with a description, of the objects
    witnessed by the anonymous caller, and to our relief it was exactly
    the same.

    On reflection, it seems that these objects, at a quick glance up a t
    the sky, could and probably would, be mistaken for stars, and the
    flashes just shooting stars, because this was our thoughts too, until
    it became a periodic occurence, hence, only occuring when a moving
    object was in the vicinity.

    All we ask of anyone reading this is keep an open mind, and do no t
    prejudge us as insane. We would really like to know if anyone else
    has h ad similar sightings, to help us to share what we encountered
    and help us come to terms with it.
     

    World News
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    [W 1]******

    Source: The Southampton Press
    Date: 13th May 1997

    Navy Drone Debris Found In TWA 800 Wreckage

    The Southampton Press reports that on May 13th, Long Island resident
    Dede Muma accidentally received a fax from Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical
    that was intended for the FBI's office in Calverton, Long Island. The
    fax indicates that parts of a U.S. Navy missile target drone, a
    BQM-34 Firebee I, may have been found in the wreckage of TWA 800.

    The reason that Muma accidentally received the fax, which she passed
    on to the Southampton Press, was probably because her fax number is
    369-4310, while the FBI's number is 369-4301. About the fax, the
    Southampton Press states:

    Official documents faxed mistakenly to a Riverhead resident...show
    that the Federal Bureau of Investigation...was investigating whether
    pieces of debris found among the wreckage of TWA Fight 800 were the
    remnants of an aerial target drone used by the U.S. Navy...

    The fax shows a diagram of what appears to be a missile, along with
    a breakdown of its tail section and a parts list...

    The object shown in the fax was identified this week by Jane's
    Information Services in Alexandria, Virginia as a Teledyne Ryan
    BQM-34 Firebee I, an air or surface-launched recoverable aerial
    target.

    The targets are used all over the world, including within the
    military "warning areas" that come as close as about 10 nautical
    miles off Moriches Inlet in the Atlantic Ocean. The Navy practices
    shooting down drones within the warning areas.

    Ms. Muma said she called the FBI when she received the [Firebee]
    fax... Ms. Muma was told to "send it along to them, [the FBI] and
    destroy the original." She said she asked what would happen if she
    didn't do so, and was told "we'll have to investigate you."

    The source of the fax, Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical of San Diego, CA,
    manufactures Firebee drones for the Navy. The "Firebee fax" Muma
    received was sent from Erich Hittinger of Teledyne to FBI agent Ken
    Maxwell, who was to pass it on to a Teledyne Ryan representative at
    the FBI's Long Island office, Walt Hamilton.

    Hittinger of Teledyne Ryan told the Southampton Press that the FBI
    contacted them to ask if orange pieces of debris found at the TWA
    800 crash site were from one of their Firebee drones, which are also
    orange. Hamilton was then flown from San Diego to the FBI's Long
    Island facility to examine the suspected Firebee debris. According
    to Hittinger, Hamilton concluded that the orange metal "wasn't from
    our Firebee," which suggests that it was from someone's Firebee, but
    not ours.

    Question: If your business depended upon government contracts, would
    you be inclined to prove that the government, your employer, killed
    people? It could prove to be a fatal business decision.

    WITH NAVY DRONE DEBRIS IN HAND

    In early May 1997, while the FBI had pieces of debris that they
    suspected came from a U.S. Navy missile-drone, what was the FBI
    telling us? FBI Director Louis Freeh was telling us it looks like
    the crash "was a catastrophic mechanical failure." FBI agent James
    Kallstrom was saying: "We see no evidence of a piece of shrapnel
    from a missile or a warhead going through the plane."

    On May 12th Newsday reported that with no evidence of a missile or
    foul play, the FBI was planning to end its investigation by early
    August. Clearly, as we have already seen with the cover-up of the
    explosives residue, there is no correlation between the FBI's
    public-relations front and the true story behind the scenes.

    Rather than telling the truth that they suspected a Navy
    missile-drone was involved, the FBI was pushing "mechanical failure"
    while simultaneously intimidating Dede Muma with threats of an
    investigation against her for refusing to destroy her errantly
    acquired evidence of U.S. Navy culpability in the downing of TWA
    Flight 800.

    HEAVY MILITARY AIRTRAFFIC

    The skies off the Long Island shore on July 17, 1996 were filled
    with aircraft. Not only were several Air National Guard aircraft in
    the air, and not only was a high-speed vehicle heading toward TWA 800
    as reported by eyewitnesses, radar, and a satellite, but a U.S. Navy
    P-3 Orion was flying almost directly above TWA 800 when the accident
    occurred.

    Furthermore, several mysterious small aircraft fitting the profile
    of target drones were also seen in the area. Not only did Linda Kabot
    photograph what seems to be a drone missile, but the Long Island
    newspaper The Independent reported that witnesses saw a "smaller
    plane" flying near TWA 800 at crash time. Indeed, a Firebee drone
    looks like a "smaller plane." Even more, as I watched CNN on the
    night of the crash, a pilot was interviewed who said he saw what
    looked like a "stunt plane" crash into TWA 800. A Firebee looks like
    a "stunt plane," and alas, it seems that they may have found parts of
    this "stunt plane" in TWA 800.

    Yet more, the Boston Globe reported that in addition to seeing "a
    brilliant flare-like glow that streaked toward the plane," witnesses
    also saw "a low-flying aircraft without lights cruising off shore."
    Could that aircraft without lights have been one of the aerial target
    drones, perhaps Firebees, launched from Wallops Island on July 17th?
    Drones can fly for hundreds of miles.

    That there was such heavy military air-traffic on July 17 should not
    be a big surprise because there was a massive offshore military
    war-game called "Global Yankee '96" underway at the time. Virtually
    all the military assets in the air around TWA 800 that evening,
    including the Air National Guard aircraft, where scheduled to be
    involved in "Global Yankee '96."

    With such heavy military air-traffic and wargames in the
    area around TWA 800, which was on the "Betty track" (a
    safe route around active naval exercise zones), is it a
    surprise that over 150 witnesses saw TWA 800 being hit by a
    missile-like projectile? Is it a surprise that parts of a Navy
    missile-drone may have been found among the debris of TWA 800? I
    would dare to say that it is not a surprise.

    [W 2]******

    Source: Computer Shopper
    Date: September 1997

    Join the alien hunt...

    Caught up with all the hype from Nasa about the possibility that
    primitive life may once have existed on Mars? Well, if your on the
    Net, you will soon be able to join in the search for little green
    men from the comfort of your armchair; early next year Internet users
    will be asked to help researchers based at the Berkeley campus of the
    University of California in the hunt for extraterrestrial life. The
    university is co-ordinating the international Search for Extra-
    Terrestrial Life (SETI) programme and needs help to analyse the vast
    amount of captured data.

    Basically, the researchers have fitted an instrument to the world's
    largest radio telescope the Arecibo receiver placed in Puerto Rico.
    They are now using this telescope to trawl the heavens for signals
    that may have an intelligent origin, rather than just the cosmic
    radiation noise from exploding stars, colliding galaxies and the
    other celestial fireworks that the universe contains.

    Given that the receiver telescope is now scanning 168 million
    different radio frequencies every 1.7 seconds, it's not hard to see
    why the scientists are having to resort to involving the Internet
    community. To analyse their data otherwise, would require the
    massive application of expensive super computers. Instead, the
    Berkeley team is planning to break the data down into small portions
    and post on the Internet along with an analyses programme that will
    run under Windows. PC owners will be able to download a data section,
    leave their PC to mull it over (users will be able to download data
    sections that can be analysed in a set amount of time by a given PC
    configuration) and then upload their results. The scientists hope
    that within a year more than 100,000 intimate users will be
    participating in the project.

    [W 3]******

    Source: Sky News (24 hour UK/European satellite news)
    Date: Monday 25th August 1997

    Sky News special report. Did we go to the moon?

    This short report was broadcast throughout the day. At different
    times a longer version was also broadcast. [Transcript]

    Presenter: Now we've had claims that slices of slimming crisp bread
    have been used to produce hoax pictures of the surface of Mars. Now
    more allegations claim that the camera can lie even in space. It's
    30 years since man first took the first steps on the Moon. Some space
    watchers are beginning to have their doubts. Peter Sharp reports.

    PS: When the giant Satan 5 rocket blasted off from Cape Canaveral to
    the Moon, it carried with it the hopes and asperations of not just
    the people of the United States but the entire world.

    [Neil Armstrong 1969] NA: That's one small step for man, one giant
    leap for mankind.

    -[continued in part 3]-

     
 
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    PS: Nearly 30 years on children at the science Museum in London
    still look on in awe at the now primitive technology that put man on
    the Moon. It is an achievement so firmly entrenched in the collective
    consciousness of the world that to even question it amounts to
    heresy. But thats exactly what author David Percy is doing. After
    five years of research he's convinced that the Apollo 11 photographs,
    the historical record of man's first lunar excursion were faked.

    DP: There are two alternatives, either we went to the Moon and these
    arn't the photographs or mankind didn't go to the Moon at all.

    PS: Percy believes the pictures are littered with deliberately
    placed clues planted by frustrated project technicians outraged at
    the hoax.

    DP: This demonstrates [picture shown on computer monitor] how we
    feel that an astronaut has been filled in with light compare it with
    how it might have looked if it hadn't had any additional fill in
    light. Here we can see very clearly we have the Lem [moon lunar
    module] on the right and the fact that the shadow goes East West in
    this picture to the right of the frame, it would indicate to us that
    the sun is over here to the left and we would quite reasonably expect
    the shadows of the rock in the foreground to go East West. The fact
    that we can triangulate shadows back to a point here, that we believe
    that this positioning of the shadows is intentional.

    PS: The film Capricorn One released in 1978 had Nasa astronauts
    staging a landing on Mars on a film set. For those with doubts over
    Nasa's credibility this was more closer to science fact than science
    fiction.

    [Bill Kasing - former Nasa contractor]
    BK: We mounted this expedition, the expedition to the Moon almost 30
    years ago and frankly you know I had a chance to look over the points
    that this person was making. I didn't understand them. I don't
    understand why we should spend the time to go off and do the research
    to look up. To prove to people that we went to the Moon. The fact of
    the matter is that we did go to the Moon.

    PS: David Percy will continue his research seeking to prove the
    unthinkable. That the greatest technological achievement in the
    history of mankind simply never happened. Peter Sharp Sky News in
    London.

    [W 4]******

    uk.ufo.nw says: This is a truly fascinating story that we first
    became aware of after listening to Dan Sherman's interview on the
    excellent American radio show 'SIGHTINGS ON THE RADIO WITH JEFF
    RENSE', transmitted on August 6th this year. This was Dan's first
    interview on national radio. An interview where he came over as
    being extremely sincere and believable.

    Dan's interview was meant to be one hour & thirty minutes long, half
    of the three hour show. However the story that Dan came across with
    was so fascinating that Jeff Rense asked his second guest if he
    would come back at a later date. Dan's interview then extended to the
    full three hours. Riveting stuff.

    If you would like to hear Dan Sherman's interview on 'Sighting On
    The Radio' or any other of these shows they are all archived at the
    following world wide web addresses:

    Home page: http://www.sightings.com/
    Archive page: http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/archive.stm
    Dan Sherman's interview:
    http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/9708/end0806.ram

    To listen to any of the shows you will need the program 'Real Audio'
    available as a free download from:

    http://www.realaudio.com/
    http://www.real.co.uk/

    You can listen to the show/s in real time or as in our case connect
    a tape recorder to your computer and record the show for later
    listening at your leisure.

    We strongly recommend listening to Dan's interview and would like to
    hear your thoughts on this young man. Send your mail to the usual
    address at:

    ufo@holodeck.demon.co.uk

    With: DAN SHERMAN as the subject heading.

    Source: UFO UpDates Mailing List
    Date: July 1997
    Summary by: Glenn Campbell
    campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)

    An email interview with former government insider Dan Sherman is now
    available at: http://www.ufomind.com/people/s/sherman/interview.shtml

    SUMMARY OF INTERVIEW

    >From 1992 through 1994, Dan ("D.L") Sherman claims to have worked
    with a secret military program to communicate with aliens.  He was a
    government specialist who received communications from alien beings
    and typed them on a computer terminal. His job was analogous to a
    communications officer on a ship receiving morse code but with more
    depth and greater exchange between the parties.  He never saw any
    aliens, only communicated with them "intuitively".

    Sherman says he was prepared for this role by the aliens before his
    birth.  Apparently during an abduction of his mother in 1963, his
    genetic structure was slightly altered to allow him to receive alien
    communications. He was unaware of this ability until, years later,
    he was briefed about it while in the Air Force.  He was assigned to a
    program called "Project Preserve Destiny" (PPD).  He was told that
    the purpose of the program was to provide a network of communications
    in the future when electromagnetic communications would not work.

    He calls the ability "intuitive communications" (IC). His abilities
    were "activated" during an 8-10 week course at NSA headquarters at
    Fort Meade in early 1992.  It was a sort of "night school" after his
    daytime training in another secret but conventional field.

    After training, Sherman's PPD duties were veiled by conventional top
    secret duties at two Air Force bases. While at work he would receive
    notification (apparently psychic), that a communication was about to
    begin.  He would then open a special blank window on the computer
    terminal where he was working and would type the communication into
    it.  He would then close the window, and the information would be
    sent to an unknown destination.

    The content of the communications ("comms") were numbers mostly. It
    was mainly things he did not understand, but some of the numbers he
    recognized as the coordinates of locations on earth. He says he
    received longer comms right after major space launches such as
    Arianne and the Shuttle.

    Sherman says: "During my last few months I started to receive what I
    thought to be abduction data. This is when I started having
    questions and I began to want out of the whole thing. This led to the
    sequence of events resulting in my discharge. I think they were
    testing my resolve as well because all of a sudden the comms were not
    totally in code anymore.  I thought that was quite odd. I'm not sure
    what was going on but I didn't like the comms. I would be told
    locations, resistance levels, residual pain levels, potentiality for
    recall and each case that I reported would be given a code. I had no
    idea what the codes were but I didn't like it... bottom line. I felt
    like I was reporting the lab results of a bunch of mice experiments."

    Sherman says he left the PPD program in Dec. 1994 and obtained
    release from the military in April 1995 because of his discomfort
    with what he was learning.

    Sherman says he shows no evidence of psychic ability apart from
    communication with these aliens. Since leaving the military, he has
    received no further comms and has had no further contact with his
    previous government contacts in the program.  No government agents
    have threatened him to keep quiet, but he fears that any improper
    disclosures of his "conventional" top secret work could get him in
    trouble.  He has been working on a book, but that project has been
    slowed by his own concern about "legal issues."

    Sherman says that his communication with the aliens was two-way. He
    calls them complex creatures.  He says that although he cannot
    describe them visually, "mentally, they are rigid, disciplined and
    mostly unemotional."  He did sense compassion from them, however.
    "It was almost like this was their nature but they overrode this
    characteristic because they perhaps felt it was a weakness."

    An alien told him that they had been visiting earth "since the
    beginning."

    "They had made there presence known at some time in the past to our
    ancestors and that the whole thing went haywire somehow, so they
    have chosen to remain selective in their revelations since. They
    impacted three historical cultures in the past. Which ones they
    didn't say, but I have extrapolated since based on other information.
    I also learned that there are other alien 'species' besides the ones
    I commed with. The whole reason for PPD is to train a certain number
    of humans to be able to communicate with the aliens so as to provide
    a network of communications in the future when electromagnetic
    communications will not work. I was never told what 'event' this
    would be, but I have my own ideas based on other information I've
    learned over the years."

    If anyone would like to ask Mr. Sherman about his experiences, he
    has agreed to answer questions by email.  His replies will be saved
    and added to a new web document, so they are available to everyone
    and he does not have to answer the same questions repeatedly.

    Send queries to Dan Sherman at: ppdman@juno.com
    With a cc to: campbell@ufomind.com

    For more on Sherman, see www.ufomind.com/people/s/sherman/

    Summary by Glenn Campbell (a neutral party)
    Reviewed and approved by D.L. Sherman 7/24/97

    [W 5]******

    Source: Fox TV USA
    Title: UFOs The Best Evidence Ever Caught on Tape
    Transmitted: Monday 28th July 1997

    Fox TV - Pheonix Arizona - March 1997

    Jonathan Frakes [JF] presenting.

    [JF] Pheonix Arizona 1997. It began March 13th. Residents had
    observed strange lights in the sky for the preceding three nights
    which were captured on this short tape. Then at 9.45pm on the 13th
    thousands of people witnessed this amazing display. Tom King [TK] a
    local resident captured it on tape.

    [TK] This isn't like the stuff I normally see. This is
    extraordinary. You look at it. Thats not an aircraft. We were
    perplexed the whole time trying to figure out what is this thing.

    [JF] As the tape rolled five lights blinked on in sequence offering
    an outline of a flying object in the ? near the mountains. Bill
    Hamilton [BH] a resident was with King as he taped the lights.

    [BH] This was a very significant mass sighting because at least one
    of these objects was seen travelling down diagonally the entire state
    of Arizona. Thousands of witnesses. Several video tapes. Hundreds of
    phone calls were made to local television stations, the local police
    stations.

    [JF] That same evening insurance salesman Mike Chrispen [MC] was at
    home with his wife when he recorded this astonishing video of the
    same event from 40 miles away.

    [MC] We saw a single point of light further to the east on the
    mountains than I have ever seen before. All of a sudden another
    sequence of lights started to form to the right of it. I happened to
    be catching everything when the whole entire sequence came on.

    [Mrs MC] They're very large. Larger than any lights in the city.

    [MC] Take a look at the footage. I'm not telling you what they are.
    If it was an alien space craft there's something out there that they
    can't ?

    [JF] Amazingly a third video is shot simultaneously showing the same
    lights going out in order.

    [JB] It's an amazing thing. This is a huge sighting that happened.

    [JF] By inputing the video into a computer image processor Jim
    Billatoer [JB] was able to determin what the Pheonix UFO looked
    like.

    [JB] Now we have 3D mountains and topology that we can swing around
    and look at different angles. We feel very certain that the object
    tip to tip is more than a mile long.

    [JF] National newspapers soon carried front page stories of the
    enormous V shaped object seen over Pheonix. But the local military
    base did nothing to calm the fears of the 10,000 residents who were
    startled by what they saw. A pheonix council woman Francis Barwood
    [FB] has called for an investigation into the strange lights.

    [FB] There is people that were active military that were afraid to
    say publically what they saw. They had been told that it would be the
    end of their career.
     

    The Answers
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    Landing a robotic vehicle on a comet

    uk.ufo.nw says - In issue {79} of the e-zine we posed the following
    question:

    Question: Would it be possible using todays technology to land a
    robotic vehicle on a passing comet? To record information as the
    comet travels it's orbit into deep space. To be collected the next
    time it passes Earth, whenever that might be.

    Here are three of the replies we received. Many thanks to all who
    answered.

    --

    From: clive.metson@virgin.net

    There are two major problems with landing on a passing comet:
    1. Meeting it.
    2. Staying on it.

    The first is probably the easiest obstacle to overcome. The orbital
    mechanics would not allow 'conventional' approach due to lack of
    gravity. The approach would have to be on a solar orbit thus
    necessitating a large fuel payload for manuverability to make the
    landing and collection approaches. This would differ from the Comet
    Halley approach which was a flyby through the tail. On this mission
    the orbits would have to be similar to enable matching during
    landing and pickup.

    The second problem of staying on the comet would be far greater. A
    comet is small so the gravity between it and the lander would be
    negligible. This means it would be impossible for the lander to just
    sit on the body. It would need anchoring. The surface of the comet
    is eroded during its solar approach so an anchor in the ice would be
    likely to break free unless it was particularly deep. A spiders web
    approach might prove a better solution.

    There are other points, fuel leakage from the lander during its long
    stay, lack of power, unless nuclear generated, would necessitate
    passive instruments. The use of a nuclear plant would solve the
    power situation but to what effect on the comet? The waste heat would
    need to be completely radiated away into space to prevent the 'dirty
    snowball' melting.

    --

    From: David Skinner <david@drspc.demon.co.uk>

    I dunno if it's possible but it would be a clever idea - hitch a ride
    on a comet to the outer limits of the solar system and collect the
    data when it returned. Of course, the longer the period of the comet
    the better but the longer it would take to get the data back. It's
    quite possible that by the time a long period comet returns we will
    be able to send probes to those areas easily and cheaply anyway.

    The huge amount of collected information over (maybe) hundreds of
    years would need either a totally new data storage system or some
    form of artificial intelligence - deciding what information is
    valuable/interesting and discarding most of the rest. It would be
    impractical to radio the data back from the surface of the comet
    since it would be rapidly tumbling and, for most of the voyage, it
    would be a VERY long way away from us. Also it would need a power
    supply independent of the sun - probably nuclear.

    Of course, we could simply launch a craft in a typical commentary
    orbit and manage without the piggy-back ride altogether.

    There is one major problem that I foresee - if we pick the wrong
    comet then we might encounter the spaceship carrying the Heaven's
    Gate cult to their next plane of existence. We wouldn't want to
    disturb them, would we?

    David Skinner

    --

    From: sacpbl@cardiff.ac.uk

    A comet is essentially the same as any other object, it acts under
    the influence of the same physical forces, therefor it would be
    relatively simple to get a probe to the comet and then send a vehicle
    to its surface.  If the comet was on its way back out of the solar
    system, thus having already passed the sun, then the amount of debris
    would be at its minimum allowing the probe the maximum protection.

    Once on the comet, the probe would need to secure itself firmly on
    the surface, due to the extreme gravitational forces that the comet
    may encounter when passing the outer planets.

    Sending information back from the probe may be hampered by the dust
    corona and also the possible rotations of the comet which would make
    arial alignment a nightmare.  The probable solution would be to have
    an escape probe which will fire itself clear of the comet when it
    comes back into the solar system but before the sun causes too much
    of a destructive corona.  This probe can then theoretically align
    itself and transmit its valuable cargo back to earth before becoming
    another piece of space junk.

    In theory this is possible, but there are far too many things that
    can go wrong, however, the Galileo probe was able to withstand a
    tremendous pounding; so who knows?

    Paul Little
     

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    A FEARFUL SYMMETRY

    A TRUE STORY OF ALIEN INTRUSION INTO HUMAN LIVES

    By D. Lynne Bishop

    A FEARFUL SYMMETRY Copyright 1995 by D. Lynne Bishop

    All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced,
    stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any
    means, electronic or mechanical including photocopying, recording or
    otherwise without prior permission of the publisher, except by a
    reviewer who may quote brief passages.

    First Printing September 1995

    Printed in the United States of America

    BOOKFINDER PUBLISHING

    ---

    CHAPTER THREE

    At the end of my first session, it was obvious to all of us that I
    had not broken completely through the block that had been imposed on
    my memory of that long ago event. The skillful questioning by the
    hypnotherapist had uncovered an area that I was unable to talk about
    during that session, and I was left intensely keyed up. I was
    extremely angry with myself for being unable to face something in my
    past, and puzzled by my inability to work through it during the
    regression. In spite of my serious doubts and misgivings toward the
    alien abduction theory, it was beginning to appear there was credence
    to the entire phenomenon.

    My mother's calmer acceptance of the unusual events was mystifying to
    me. Her memories had contained nothing that particularly distressed
    her, and she felt that no harm had been intended or caused by the
    apparently alien entities. And yet, the brief glimpse I had seen
    before my memory block had occurred gave me every indication that
    something very distressing had happened to me. The constraint I felt
    in not feeling free to discuss all the aspects with her was very
    nearly overwhelming, yet I did not want to damage either of our
    testimonies through contamination. As a result, our relationship
    suffered, as I turned to other family members in my outpouring of
    grief and anguish at events that I could little understand, much less
    fully believe had even occurred, despite the correlations and
    corroborating evidence. I told by husband I felt I had gained some
    aliens and lost my family in the process. None of them seemed able to
    understand or empathize with what I was feeling, and despite my
    attempts, I was unable to make them understand.

    My inner struggle to regain a semblance of comprehension, and my
    urgent, almost obsessive need for answers was apparent to everyone.
    Another session was set for May 22, at which time we would explore
    the memories behind my secondary block. The hypnotherapist had
    indicated that following my first session, other memories would
    probably surface from time to time, but I was shocked by the many
    visions that arose, like shattered fragments of a broken whole. As I
    fought to incorporate these tantalizing shards, I found myself
    becoming more insomniac. I had always been a light sleeper, able to
    awaken easily and fully conscious at the drop of a pin, but now I
    found myself sleeping only one or two hours at a stretch, never fully
    relaxed. I never seemed to sleep during the hours of 1:00 A.M.
    through 3:00 A.M., and was constantly alert to the slightest sound or
    movement. While I wouldn't recommend it as a way to diet, I also
    dropped ten pounds within two weeks, due to loss of appetite.

    My husband's calm fortitude throughout the trying weeks was a pillar
    on which I leaned heavily. In spite of the fact that I had turned our
    world upside down, his steady, firm belief in me remained a constant
    beacon--a ray of light in an otherwise dark tunnel. As I wrestled
    with philosophical and personal quandaries, he continued to assist as
    a sounding-board for the myriad questions that surfaced as I sought
    my position in a world I hadn't believed existed. Surely, I thought,
    I must have strained my credibility to the breaking point, when I
    told him, very matter-of- factly, that the aliens I had seen during
    my first session had what looked like suction pads on the ends of
    their long fingers. Yet, he took my statement in stride--never
    wavering in his steadfast support.

    My entire family had watched the television movie "Intruders" on May
    17 and 19, and many of the scenes had contained elements of a reality
    in which I was only slowly beginning to believe. My husband and I
    were watching together, sitting on the couch in our living room, and
    I literally jumped off the couch at one point, exclaiming, "My God,
    look! He's in a tube!" The scene was so fleeting that none of our
    friends remembered having seen it. We had, fortunately, videotaped
    the movie, and were able to point it out on replay.

    Meanwhile, I awaited the 22nd with mixed emotions. In one respect, I
    was less tense, since I was now familiar with the memory recovery
    process--but on the other hand, I was extremely nervous about what
    might surface, and what it might portend.

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