salam sherry

here are parts of the page u sent and my comments on some of them ..

first , my only motive to write to u this e-mail is not to defend my point of view or fight for it or argue with you..nor to attack ur belief..but it is only one thing which i feel for some one i felt really he is my young brother in islam ..i felt that u are really a good and faithful muslim who loves islam , who i remmber at each time i open my e-mail box to find a new Hadith Nabwi reminding me of islam instruction...for all of this when i read the page carefully i liked to give u my comments below each part i included..

btw , i have a quite good knowledge of bible and comparison between islam and christienity..
You have first to read the page u sent about the book written by Ghulam Ahmad carefully as i did :

part 1: from the introduction

" In Muslim circles the effect has been so marked that the Rector of the Al-Azhar University in Cairo issued a Fatwa (verdict) that according to the Holy Quran Jesus had died a natural death. Its influence on the Christian mind has also been greatly disturbing."
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are u sure that this fatwa is really from Al- Azhar university..i did not hear it b4...make sure of it please and i will do by my turn inshaALLAH and suppose it is really true from the Azhar University ok ?: and if the author of this introduction cared to seek the fatwa of AL AZHAR university in this item of the Jesus being died in a natural way ..which indicates that he trust this great old university ..so, why he did not seek its fatwa in the rest of the case mainly the announcement of Ghulam Ahmad that he comes from God and he is Almahdy...there is a rule sherry "take it or leave it" so do not take the fatwa of Al Azhar in the part that support it and ignore Al Azhar when it is against u ..!! //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

part 2 ..by Ghulam Ahmad :
2* "The greatest sympathy towards Muslims is that they should be reformed morally and that an effort should be made to dispel the false hopes which they entertain in connection with the appearance of a bloody Mahdi and Messiah" ************************************
I am an arabic muslim sherry and at least i will be talking in behalf of 150 millions of arab muslims who lives in the place and speak the same language as Muhammed (SAW)((n.b this not something to be superior ..never, we are all equal for God except of our good work but just it makes islam easier to understand ..no language barrier and now dsitance barrier )) plus other hundred millions of muslims all over the world ..
i will say ..that we never believed that there will be a bloody mahdy and bloody Jesus who will be coming before the latter day nor that they will kill all non-muslims and spread blood that never happened on earth before!as Ghulam Ahmad says that muslims believe..!!
so , this bloody belief that Ghulam Ahmad sent to correct and to dispel is just a belief of local groups in India or Pakistan ..may be they are El Wahabys as he says or any other group ..?.. whatever it is localized group of people that believe in a bloody mahdy and bloody Jesus...i am hearing you sherry saying: " that is great..so we are alike you do not believe in a bloody mahdy and that is what Ghulam Ahmad came for" i will answer : good point my brother ..however the question that will arise : why did Ghulam Ahmad sent by God for all humankind just to correct a local proplematic belief in his local area or let us say in one or 2 counties but not a problem for all muslims? at this point sherry before you go on reading my e-mail return to the page u sent me :
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1340/jesus_in_india.htm
and revise paragraph 7 and 8 i guess in which he declred the Aim of his message.. ///////////////////////////////////////////////

you will notice also this Part (b4 the previous one above):
3* "(So, in this age the greatest sympathy for the Christians is that their attention should be called to the true God, Who is free from such defects as being born and having to suffer death and undergo suffering,")
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this was the 2nd part of his aim ..he was sent to Christians to tell them that believing in trinity and that jesus is son of GOD..and all of this is a big lie and made by humnas not told by Jesus himself..

Yes this is a GREAT aim sherry , as you see , and i believe in it as a muslim and is written in Quran in " Mariam surah" and many other verses in Quran..BUT another Question will arise now then ! .."WHAT IS NEW?" ..why God repeats the same message by Muhammed SWA then by Ghulam Ahmad..and if Ghulam Ahmad is just wanted to remind people of what islam says , so he is just a muslim doing his duty towards islam and da3wa (= calling for Allah in arabic ) which is a duty made before by Abu Bakr and OMAR and all the original muslims who wanted to spread islam at the very beginning without telling that being carrying this high message so they are sent by God ..they just soldiers of islam and Abd Allah not more..
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4*." I have been sent by God to lead the people of the world to the true God through peace and humility, and to reassert the reign of morals in Islam. "

when any person declares that he is sent by God this is no way EQUALS==== A messenger ..he claims that he is a messenger== another messenger after the Prohet MUHAMAD SWA===========at this point i will leave what Ghulam Ahmad tells and come to u sherry..inside your selelf you want to stick to islamic instructions that declares that Muhamad swa is the the last messenger in this world..but at the same time there is Ghulma Ahmad ..but you put inside urself that he is not a messenger but he is Almahdy and Messiah and even Jesus to avoid the 2 opposite facts to hit against each other ..ok..but one second thinking in a fair mode -(i suggest long time after reading my e-mail) - of the words he tells by himself about himself (look up and in the web page ).." i have been sent by God " !!!

SO, he is a messenger ..ok ? (i will go with him in this) SENT for what ? for 2 aims ..one for a local group (whatever they are thousands ..but local propblem) and the other aim was told BEFORE by Muhamad swa.. and for WHOM? for also 2 GROUPS ONLY of human kind : the muslims and christians what about other humans ? he did not argue with people worship the cow or the sun or the non believer ..!

Do u know sherry why Muhamad was the last messenger ..because he came for all human and Geny even ..so why God sends another messenger for small group after he sent a messenger for all people!..WHY he sends a messenger for a local problem after he sent a religion for all problems and for all ages..God's name is WISDOM ..! do not say he is not a messenger because he simply says so ..and watch his exact words again..
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5*as disclosed to me secrets of the unseen and of the future"

this was told by Ghulam Ahmad about himself ... -Compare what Muhamad (SWA) is told IN QURAN - Surah Al-AHKAF VERSE 9 "[al-Ahqaf 46:9] Say:" I am no new thing among the messengers (of Allah), nor know I what will be done with me or with you. I do but follow that which is inspired in me, and I am but a plain warner"
NO one knows the future and the secrets of the unseen even the closest angels to Allah ..just him owns and knows the future and God never gave this right to any messenger Before , even jesus and even Mousa ( PEACE UPON THEM )..so watch the words again and do not let such serious claim covered by hundreds of nice words about hating blood , peace , love ..all of this is from YOUR book Quran and your sunna ..which Muhamad SAW told us about them that:
" I left you of the book of God and sunna of his messenger what if u followed you will never be astray after me (my death)"

what every muslim i know believe in the home of ALKA3BA and the home of al Madina ..and home of Al Azhar..

1- first we believe that all the matters that God does not tell about or even does not tell about in details in his Quran should not be our concern ..we must not believe in any thing away from Quran and Sunna..and to believe in some one who is jesus and almahdy and knows the future is what I can honestly call away from Quran and sunna what ever you follow all other words in Quran and Sunna..

2-We just believe there is a coming mahdy ,and coming Jesus.(peace on to him).. both will settle the truth for all human kind (they themselves and not their followers along hundred years as u said because simply at the time God wanted them to come which is the before the latter day ,God will make them a direct CLEAR physical evidence to all human , no more messages ,the time of messages and call for God ended with the death of Prophet Muhamad SAW ..

3- We never believe in the bloody mahdy or the bloody Jesus .

4-The bad and evil acts done by muslims any where in the world either terrorsim or corruption are only defects in muslims themselves because they are away from islam instructions or because they changed islam instructions !...and this should not be corrected by new messengers or new messages under any covering or nick names..it must be corrected only by Quran and Sunna ..the real of Sunna not the Israel added Hadeeth..

5-THE details of what will happen at the latter day , the Mahdi and all this is the cortex of islam not its core..nor its heart..it is the branch and not the main of the river ...u ran after the branches which my make u sink ..take care..

6- Not every one calls for love , peace , leaving blood , and seeks for the beauity of islam and fight for it is a messenger ..he is a good man but not a messenger or i consider many Islamic scientists all over the world are messangers..

7- Not every one i love or makes me cry is a holy..i could cry when i read poetry or when i see movie of a clever director..do not disturb feelings with facts and what are facts ??? QURAN AND SUNNA gain see Surah AL-NAHL VERSE 116

8- Sherry if , you had an a big valuble ,book in ur library at home since long time ago and some one gets you a copy of 2 pages of this book and a 3rd page which is out of it and u are not sure if the information inside is true or no will you care about the 3 pages more than the valuble original book will u tell your friends about the 3 pages or about hte valuble book?! which one will remain for ever with u ? (although 2 of them are exactly a copy of 2 pages in the book) answer urself not me..

9-Sherry, my pakistani brother,,i never heared of Ahmadyiat before except from u this means ..i am not against your belief by nature ..i am not belonging to any group of muslims in india or pakistan where every one aginst the others..i belong to the land of original isalm ..the pure source which is not changed ..the main thing without any appendices..what can i call this except being of appendix to islam?..is that logic

10-my , young brother sherry , i spent more than 5 hours writing this with all my effort ..just because i care for u and your islam which i believe is stonger than many muslims i meet .

THANKS FOR YOU IF YOU COULD READ ALL THIS LETTER TILL ITS END
THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT

your sister noray