Ex-NASA Worker Says Space 
    Agency Knows About UFOs
    By Michael Lindemann
    © 1999 CNINews All Rights Reserved
    7-21-99
     
    Note - Thanks to Michael Lindemann for special permission to post this
    remarkable story from CNI NEWS.
      
                    In the world of UFO research, whistle-blowers come and 
go. Often they appear on the scene suddenly, as if out of nowhere, spouting 
grand claims and grander resumes. Almost as often, such people turn out to be 
complete frauds and hucksters. But not always. The late Lt. Col. Philip 
Corso, for example, was exactly who he said he was -- a highly decorated Cold 
Warrior with close ties to the Eisenhower administration and a demonstrated 
penchant for championing unpopular positions both inside and outside the 
military. When Corso said he knew for certain that an alien spacecraft had 
crashed in New Mexico in 1947, it became necessary to examine his claims 
seriously -- not because he could prove them true (he could not) but because 
he was a credible witness. 
                      
                    The Corso example points up a vexing truism about 
whistle-blowers as well as other UFO claimants. More often than not, the 
value of the claim must be judged mainly by the inherent credibility of the 
witness, because no irrefutable evidence is offered. But witness credibility 
does count -- in a court of law, it can be the difference between an 
acquittal and a death sentence. 
                      
                    Now comes another whistle-blower, one Clark C. 
McClelland, who says that for more than three decades he worked at NASA's 
launch facilities at Cape Canaveral and the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. 
During that time, he says, he saw plenty of evidence that NASA officials and 
employees were exposed to unexplainable and sometimes quite alarming UFO 
events. If McClelland is telling the truth, he could become one of the most 
significant UFO witnesses in recent memory. 
                      
                    The July 1 issue of CNI News carried a story told by 
Clark McClelland regarding a conversation he claims to have had with famed 
rocketeer Wernher von Braun. McClelland says that von Braun, like Corso, 
confirmed that a spacecraft of unknown origin crashed near Roswell, New 
Mexico in 1947. When we ran that story on July 1, we were obliged to note 
that "our initial efforts to confirm [McClelland's] NASA background have been 
inconclusive." Needless to say, if McClelland's background did not check out, 
his UFO claims would be worthless. 
                      
                    As in the case of Col. Corso, we still can't guarantee 
that McClelland's UFO stories are true -- that would require a talent for 
mind-reading that we do not possess. But CNI News can now offer assurance 
that McClelland's NASA background checks out. He is, in our opinion, a 
credible witness. 
                      
                    Walter Kollosch is retired now but still lives near the 
Cape where he worked for years as a NASA subcontractor with the Martin 
Company. Back in the early 1960s, Clark McClelland worked for Martin as well. 
Clark was a draftsman then, and he worked with Kollosch on the Gemini 
program. Later Clark moved to the Boeing Company, but he stayed at the Cape, 
Kollosch recalls. 
                      
                    Kollosch remembers that Clark McClelland was outgoing and 
well-liked. "Everybody knew him. He even got to know the Mercury astronauts 
when we were working on Pershing [missile program]. When he was with Boeing, 
... he was in with the Apollo astronauts... I don't know of anyone who didn't 
like him," Kollosch told CNI News. 
                      
                    McClelland says that one reason he has decided to come 
forward with his UFO information is that he has been somehow black-balled by 
NASA and has been unable to get work in the aerospace industry since 1992. 
                      
                    "Clark has had some bad luck as far as his employment 
goes. Clark is very talented. For him to be out of work for so long strikes 
me as being very suspicious," Kollosch said. But he did not volunteer more 
detail on McClelland's recent work problems. 
                      
                    Kollosch also knew that McClelland was very serious about 
UFOs back in the 1960s. They talked about it from time to time, but Kollosch 
said he wouldn't have wanted to bring it up with others at the launch 
facility. 
                      
                    There was a lot of secrecy in the space program in those 
days. The manned space program was, in effect, an integral part of the Cold 
War. Workers knew they had to toe the line. "In the early '60s, the secrecy 
aspect was horrendous... Some guys lost their marriage because of it," 
Kollosch said. 
                      
                    It may have been a problem with a security clearance, in 
fact, that eventually caused McClelland's falling out with NASA. 
                      
                    By 1990, he worked directly for the space agency in the 
shuttle program. He was then training to become a Spacecraft Operator (ScO), 
meaning he would have hands-on responsibility for space shuttle maintenance 
and ground operations. His trainer was shuttle ScO senior specialist Dennis 
Bestwick. 
                      
                    "I'm not at liberty to say a lot" about McClelland's 
dismissal, Bestwick told CNI News. "His work was fine, but something in his 
security check didn't quite check out. Nothing illegal, but something about 
the dates didn't match. You need a secret clearance," he said. It could have 
been as simple as a clerical error in McClelland's records, Bestwick 
conceded. But whatever it was, McClelland lost his clearance and was 
subsequently dismissed from the shuttle program. 
                      
                    Bestwick seemed sorry to see McClelland go. "Clark was 
well liked. He had an outgoing personality. He's a little bit eccentric, but 
he's knowledgeable about a lot of things. He was willing to learn anything we 
threw at him," Bestwick said. 
                      
                    Asked if he'd heard any stories of UFO contact during his 
time at NASA, Bestwick said, "That has been rumored for a long time, but I 
can't clarify that. The astronauts don't say anything... They're very 
tight-lipped. 
                      
                    "Myself, I'm not saying I do or don't believe in it, but 
having some science background... there's got to be other creatures out 
there. And we can't be the smartest creatures in the universe," Bestwick 
added. 
                      
                    But for McClelland, there was no doubt that UFO events 
were occurring around the launch facility. Starting in the early 1960s, he 
kept records and filed reports as head of the Cape Canaveral (later Cape 
Kennedy) Subcommittee of NICAP, the National Investigations Committee on 
Aerial Phenomena, then the nation's best known and most influential civilian 
UFO research organization. 
                      
                    One person who was privy to McClelland's UFO reports from 
the Cape was Richard Hall, then acting director of NICAP. More recently, Hall 
was Chairman of the Fund for UFO Research and is also the author of several 
respected books on UFOs. Hall is known for his dim view of many self-styled 
UFO researchers, but he gives Clark McClelland a big thumbs-up. 
                      
                    "I've known this guy for a lot of years and I've dealt 
with him extensively," Hall told CNI News. "And I've never had the slightest 
clue of anything other than an honest, conscientious, forthright person. So I 
endorse him strongly. He should be given the fairest audience and listened to 
carefully. I think he's going to check out. He's not a fantasizer, not an 
embellisher. He's laid back and conservative and careful, and I respect that 
highly." 
                      
                    Halls says that McClelland sent a number of impressive 
case reports to NICAP founder Major Donald Keyhoe and himself. Some of those 
cases remain secret even today. "I'm still keeping secrets that will probably 
go to the grave with me -- things that people have told me privately -- 
because that's the way I feel about it, unless they give me the green light," 
Hall explained. But he gave one example of a case that McClelland sent in. 
                      
                    It occurred in 1961. "A rocket was launched and radar was 
tracking it. And a UFO came in and the radar locked on to the UFO. You can 
put this out under my name now, if you wish," Hall said. "His [McClelland's] 
subcommittee sent to us a report by Pan American airways, which was then the 
operating subcontractor at the Cape. And they had a quarter-inch thick 
technical report on this UFO tracking, radar lock-on.... In order to protect 
them [Pan Am and the witnesses], we were very vague about it." Hall says he 
made a brief reference to this case in his book, "The UFO Evidence." But the 
full report has never been published. 
                      
                    Clark McClelland says he has now decided to publish what 
he knows about NASA's history of encounters with UFOs. Samples of 
McClelland's information can be found at his new website, 
http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/trinity.html. 
                      
                      
                    At the request of CNI News, McClelland offered the 
following exclusive report of one significant UFO encounter: 
                      
                    FOUR GUESTS WITH GEMINI 
                      
                    By Clark C. McClelland c. 1999 All Rights Reserved 
                      
                    On April 9, 1964, the Gemini-Titan I was launched from 
complex 19 at the Cape Canaveral USAF Missile Test Range in Florida. It was 
unmanned yet drew a lot of attention by "other intelligence's". Who or what 
were they? Your guess is as good as any. 
                      
                    I was a young Designer working for the Titan II Launch 
Operations Team in Hangar "U". I was assigned to work with a bright engineer 
called Chuck. We had a problem happening with the first stage of the Titan 
and called it "POGO". Several previous test flights were flown and the effect 
showed up at lift off. It acted like a POGO stick (up and down motion) as the 
vehicle rose into the sky. NASA and the USAF determined the effect to be 
dangerous for any of the astronauts chosen to fly in the Gemini capsule. The 
booster would not meet Man Rated restrictions by NASA and the USAF. 
                      
                    Chuck and I were to attach measurements to the booster 
and determine how or what could be done to stop the POGO effect. Several 
modifications had been made and this flight would prove if we were 
approaching the correction of the difficulty. The capsule had a "canned man" 
-- which is sometimes called a "black box" -- inside the astronaut 
compartment to help solve the problem by collecting data. 
                      
                    The rocket lifted off and began to return data which 
indicated that the modifications Chuck and I had designed had reduced the 
POGO effect significantly. Everyone was delighted to receive the preliminary 
information. 
                      
                    As the Gemini Capsule entered orbit, the RCA world 
tracking team began to realize that "our" capsule was not alone as viewed 
through their incoming telemetry, visual theodolite and other high powered 
optical data. Our capsule had four "visitors". The RCA team was ordered to 
run a recheck of the situation to be certain ghost images were not the cause. 
The Titan II stages were also excluded as causing the images. 
                      
                    NASA, the USAF and Martin-Marietta [then Martin Company? 
- ed.] who built the Titan II were all puzzled and just about scratching 
their heads in unison. After much huddling and discussion the intelligent 
determination was that we had other physical objects up there with our Gemini 
capsule. Total silence filled the launch control area. A few whispers were 
heard but nothing else. 
                      
                    Then a brash young member of the team said the words that 
caused faces to turn to horror. I said, "What about UFOs?" It was as if I had 
taken the Lord's name in vain. The silence deepened as almost everyone 
present was staring at me. I felt like a child caught with his/her hand in 
the cookie jar. Cold stares came at me from the NASA Brass and USAF Officers. 
Actually, the only obvious answer was what I had so blatantly stated -- they 
were UFOs! I slipped back into my assignments and remained a very interested 
and quiet observer. 
                      
                    Several hours after the objects departed their single 
orbit rendezvous with the Gemini capsule, a strange shadowy group of 
personnel arrived on scene. They were not faces of those who had worked at 
Cape Canaveral for any length of time. Cape workers like myself knew a 
stranger when one showed up in our work area. Who they were, no one seemed to 
know -- or if they did know, did not identify them. I made an attempt to I.D. 
them and ran into a brick wall of silence. One thing was for certain, this 
group was at the Cape for no other reason than the Gemini Titan mission and 
its guests. 
                      
                    A week or so later, I was talking to an old friend called 
Vince. He was a Pan American Security guard at the Cape and got around to all 
launch complex areas. Vince told me that he transported several men to the 
Cape Canaveral Skid Strip (aircraft runway) at the time all the Gemini 
activity had taken place. He heard a younger man call another older person 
Colonel. Vince had a good pair of eyes when he wore his glasses and told me 
they had top secret security clearance badges he had only seen once before. 
The badges appeared to have letters and a number on them. He observed them 
from across the car roof as they entered his security cruiser and did not 
observe the badges close up. They wore no uniforms yet acted as if they were 
military. They spoke of returning to Washington, DC. Vince also noted that 
they wore matching lapel pins that may have been similar to those worn by 
secret service officers during the several visits by President Kennedy and 
Eisenhower in past years. 
                      
                    To make a long story short, NASA, USAF, Pentagon, White 
House, NSA etc., all determined that it had to be eventually explained as 
normal activity. The hungry dogs of the mass media who ate broken glass and 
razor blades to sharpen their questions were awaiting the NASA news 
conference eagerly willing to slash away. The official NASA determination was 
that the objects were the torn particles or remains of the Titan upper stage 
that apparently entered orbit with the Gemini capsule. 
                      
                    I was at the news conference and I nearly began to laugh. 
How could a broken stage overtake the capsule and stop slightly ahead of the 
capsule to accompany it an entire orbit around the earth? But I held my laugh 
to save my job. A NASA Public Information Officer held his breath hoping my 
mouth would stay shut. It did, and I remained in my job to record other 
astounding events that will be in my book. 
                      
                    [NOTE: See "Interfering with Atlas -- UFO Disables ICBM" 
at McClelland's website for another incident that also happened in 1964.] 
                      
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